Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 11:49 PM Jun 2012

There is a political crisis in our country.


This political crisis is presently being fought by the two major political Parties.

Our long-standing institutions are being attacked at every turn. Our schools and unions are struggling to survive. Even firemen, policemen, and mailmen are under assault. In fact, our entire established government is threatened by a radical, right-wing, anti-government Party that is being funded by the wealthiest people in our nation.

Over thirty years ago, the conspiracy was hatched. The idea was that if they could run our country far enough into debt, then there would be no money for any more government programs. At the time, they did not imagine that we would not have money for any government programs. They succeeded beyond their wildest imagination.

If the Democratic Party does not find a way to counter this threat, then America will soon be in a deep decline from which we cannot recover. Our roads and bridges will deteriorate rapidly. Within five years, many of our highways and cities could be in ruin. Simply because no one wants to raise the taxes needed for a functioning society. We are in a crisis.

The country is in desperate need of leadership. We need someone that can lead us into battle against these forces that would destroy us all. We cannot continue to compromise and make deals and pretend that no one has to sacrifice. This enemy is as dangerous as any foreign enemy we have seen since a militarized Soviet Union.

There are no easy answers. We need everyone to pay their fair share of taxes. Taxes are the price we pay for a decent society. When we have both Parties bidding to see who can cut taxes the most, they are both our enemy. They are both destroying the nation that we have built.

With more taxcuts, there will not be more jobs. There will not be a better economy. There will only be the dog-eat-dog world of international competition. The wealth will continue to go to those at the very top as our middle-class sinks into lower class poverty.

That is our future if we do not recognize the crisis we are in and act to fix it. We need leadership - we don't need tax cuts.

.
20 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
There is a political crisis in our country. (Original Post) kentuck Jun 2012 OP
Say it Kentuck! lonestarnot Jun 2012 #1
Or it could mean a global collapse. Zalatix Jun 2012 #2
who would you suggest? grasswire Jun 2012 #3
All of us. kentuck Jun 2012 #5
For many generations the pull your self up by your own boot straps, and midnight Jun 2012 #4
For many generations the pull your self up by your own boot straps, and clang1 Jun 2012 #8
no we must placate and appease, beg and be bipartisan so they will love us lol nt msongs Jun 2012 #6
There is a political crisis in our country. clang1 Jun 2012 #7
I have great respect for Obama but I don't think he is the best person to deal with this problem. Kablooie Jun 2012 #9
re I have great respect for Obama but I don't think he is the best person to deal with this problem. clang1 Jun 2012 #10
Don't worry, we're going to get one. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #11
Not only that... kentuck Jun 2012 #12
I agree that if Obama wins he will be impeached within a few months. Kablooie Jun 2012 #19
My only hope libtodeath Jun 2012 #13
problem is, lots of democrats (possibly not every single democrat) are in the pocket as well datasuspect Jun 2012 #14
re: problem is, lots of democrats (possibly not every single democrat) are in the pocket as well clang1 Jun 2012 #15
It almost seems daunting to correct anything at this point. Proles Jun 2012 #16
re: It almost seems daunting to correct anything at this point. clang1 Jun 2012 #17
The rot is almost certainly out of human scale to correct incrementally TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #18
Great post kentuck!! B Calm Jun 2012 #20
 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
2. Or it could mean a global collapse.
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 11:54 PM
Jun 2012

Which will mean we can get rid of the Plutocrats and start over.

midnight

(26,624 posts)
4. For many generations the pull your self up by your own boot straps, and
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 11:59 PM
Jun 2012

don't be a free loader meme has kept the working people with their heads down working hard paying for themselves and the wealthy's tax cuts... but sadly the machines that were suppose to release us from so much toil has released many from family wages, tallied numbers for bankers and elections, that have no accountability or over site... I think fix the machines with and provide accountability and much will be fixed asap....

 

clang1

(884 posts)
8. For many generations the pull your self up by your own boot straps, and
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 02:38 AM
Jun 2012

Problem is right now there is none: accountability

And there are two rules of law at work here. One for them, and one for us. Heh ours is not the better deal.

We live in a country now where murderers and torturers walk free amongst and not only that promote their crimes. While a 20 year old kid/Soldier sat in a brig being tortured by our government for six months by them attempting systematically stripping him of his humanness. I have a problem with this myself. It's not just or justice. I am a Vet myself (11 years), and I have nothing but complete and utter contempt for this.

 

clang1

(884 posts)
7. There is a political crisis in our country.
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 02:27 AM
Jun 2012

Thank you for a very excellent post.


'is threatened by a radical, right-wing, anti-government Party that is being funded by the wealthiest people in our nation.'


It is, and that they are. You are correct about the danger and people are mostly clueless about what is happening here. So far as one response to events here in the US I already see the disinformation at work, the reframing of the message, the division of the OWS/99% movement. None of this is by accident and it sadly seems business as usual.

Kablooie

(18,645 posts)
9. I have great respect for Obama but I don't think he is the best person to deal with this problem.
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 03:08 AM
Jun 2012

Certainly he's the best choice in the next election without any question but a different personality would be better for the country right now.

One of Obama's strengths is diplomacy. I feel he's a master at building bridges between different points of view but right now diplomacy is not what we need. The right is totally immune to diplomacy today so it is not a terribly useful skill.

What we really need is a strong, persuasive, ruthless leader that takes no hostages. Someone who can push and bully others into doing his will. Not a likable guy but someone that gets things done at any cost.

Normally I don't like that kind of leader but unfortunately I don't see any other kind of person being able to take control of our careening government right now. The deranged right will only be reined in by a severe, disciplinarian father figure, not a diplomatic, intellectual communicator.

IMHO

 

clang1

(884 posts)
10. re I have great respect for Obama but I don't think he is the best person to deal with this problem.
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 03:28 AM
Jun 2012

I do to. I think he personally is probably a very good man (though I personally never cared for Rahm very much) and most certainly he is the best next choice for President. But I have to agree with you. I too am sick of our side going to gunfights with water pistols (God I hated writing that). The problem is the rot and a lack of political will. The rot is the money and that the system has become dysfuntional and the peoples work does not get done. Both sides partake of that meal and that is also a problem. The dems are at least not antigov, try to govern and try to improve peoples lives. I will take this anyday over the other side (GOP) and their caustic regressiveness.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
12. Not only that...
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 07:45 AM
Jun 2012

But if the Repubs take the Senate and Obama is lucky enough to hold the Presidency, they will impeach him. They are threatening and blackmailing the Democrats at this time. Even today, they are going to charge Eric Holder, the Attorney-General, with contempt of Congress. They are trying to put him in a box and keep him there. Because there is voting fraud on a scale unseen at least since the Pre-Voting Rights Act. They are knee-capping him, hoping to disable any and all investigations. In my opinion, the Democrats are running scared.

Kablooie

(18,645 posts)
19. I agree that if Obama wins he will be impeached within a few months.
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 12:01 AM
Jun 2012

Even if the the GOP doesn't win Congress they will try to impeach him.
No question about it.
And they will make it as disrupting as possible to prevent any progress in governing the country.

Why the hell can't the Democrats go offensive and start tearing the GOP apart?
It's like they are afraid they might upset the Republican constituency.
Why it matters to them I can't fathom.

libtodeath

(2,888 posts)
13. My only hope
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 07:57 AM
Jun 2012

is that somehow before the collapse people will wake up and demand the end to capitalism that is needed for the people of this country to thrive.

 

datasuspect

(26,591 posts)
14. problem is, lots of democrats (possibly not every single democrat) are in the pocket as well
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 08:14 AM
Jun 2012

we have the best government that corporate money can buy.

we the people can go pound sand.

we need a left wing populist revolution.

 

clang1

(884 posts)
15. re: problem is, lots of democrats (possibly not every single democrat) are in the pocket as well
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 09:30 PM
Jun 2012

Yep. It's all nice and shiny too.

Proles

(466 posts)
16. It almost seems daunting to correct anything at this point.
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 09:47 PM
Jun 2012

Unless starting from scratch is an option. Isn't that pretty much what Iceland did? Though they are a significantly small population.

 

clang1

(884 posts)
17. re: It almost seems daunting to correct anything at this point.
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 10:51 PM
Jun 2012

Yep. I guess you could say that.

TheKentuckian

(25,035 posts)
18. The rot is almost certainly out of human scale to correct incrementally
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 11:17 PM
Jun 2012

There are so many knots, impenetrable shadows, powerful multi-generational connections, and dragon like hoards that you are on a scale, with steady progress, of something like the age of the country.

You better have a damn tight, well understood, and damn near religious in power message to pull that shit off.
Once incremental takes you beyond a generation and certainly two, all bets are off especially when you are trying to clean up this volume of entropy.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»There is a political cris...