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WTF? Al Gore walks through Trump Tower lobby to meet with Ivanka Trump on climate change (Original Post) kpete Dec 2016 OP
So? TreasonousBastard Dec 2016 #1
I actually have no problem with that because Gore is NOT going to compromise on that still_one Dec 2016 #2
He's the Lorax talking to the Onceler. nt Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2016 #6
That is so right on........ still_one Dec 2016 #16
So is Ivanka Trump the de-facto President Elect now? smirkymonkey Dec 2016 #3
Or his consigliere NightWatcher Dec 2016 #4
So Trump's spoiled, self-entitled daughter is their key pointwoman on climate change? Why? Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2016 #5
Maybe she actually gives a damn about her kids exboyfil Dec 2016 #12
I'm not upset at Al Gore for trying. But I see it as futile. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2016 #14
Yes definitely exboyfil Dec 2016 #19
Trump doesn't care. JHan Dec 2016 #26
It sounds like she actually really does care about climate change Quixote1818 Dec 2016 #27
That's his job; his life's work. Bucky Dec 2016 #7
*Chortle* Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2016 #8
(shhh) Bucky Dec 2016 #11
There is actually a tradition exboyfil Dec 2016 #15
I'm only concerned about the cost to taxpayers for security in Trump Tower alarimer Dec 2016 #21
Understood, however I would guess Sorceress Dec 2016 #24
Jared Kushner? greymattermom Dec 2016 #9
Haven't you heard ??? SamKnause Dec 2016 #10
I don't really find a degree linuxman Dec 2016 #22
Actually, Ivanka's not that bad where it counts. Ligyron Dec 2016 #13
Maybe that's the best way to get the point across to DT. Arkansas Granny Dec 2016 #17
Well, he looks at her, at least. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2016 #18
good for him, Gore won't abandon the other 200 countries working on climate change. Sunlei Dec 2016 #20
Well, some say Lucrezia Borgia tavernier Dec 2016 #23
Works for me. Making an attempt to get the point across... TwilightZone Dec 2016 #25
She's a stinking pile of greenwash in $4,000 shoes hatrack Dec 2016 #28
Gore, is being used as a prop. Cattledog Dec 2016 #29
He's not a real Dem for going there Arazi Dec 2016 #30

still_one

(92,473 posts)
2. I actually have no problem with that because Gore is NOT going to compromise on that
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 12:53 PM
Dec 2016

I think the meeting will amount to zilch though

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
3. So is Ivanka Trump the de-facto President Elect now?
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 12:54 PM
Dec 2016

I'm sorry, but she is getting a little too close for comfort.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,219 posts)
5. So Trump's spoiled, self-entitled daughter is their key pointwoman on climate change? Why?
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 12:58 PM
Dec 2016

Oh, I know why.

Because they don't actually care about climate change.

Don't waste your time, Al. Unless you want to buy some jewelry, I don't think she's really going to care what you have to say.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
12. Maybe she actually gives a damn about her kids
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 01:04 PM
Dec 2016

Who may live to see 2100. If she is convinced, then I think she can convince her father.

Nothing is going to change the fact that Trump will be President on January 20th. You have to work with what you got. Flipping one state might happen, but not three. You will not get enough faithless electors either even if Trump was hypothetically proven to be a murdering pedophile between now and Dec. 19th.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,219 posts)
14. I'm not upset at Al Gore for trying. But I see it as futile.
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 01:07 PM
Dec 2016

And I think it's pathetic that he has to go to Trump's daughter to discuss climate change while the EPA head will almost certainly be someone who will not environmentalist. That shows what a fucked up administration this will be.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
19. Yes definitely
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 01:10 PM
Dec 2016

but if you have the ear of the king, his functionaries are not as important. I think Obama is also playing this game to try to keep the country together. It sucks, and if you don't have any disasters, you probably are just helping them for the next election; but someone has to be the adult in the room.

JHan

(10,173 posts)
26. Trump doesn't care.
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 02:53 PM
Dec 2016

his optics are a mirage.

to find out what he thinks or how his administration will move, just look at who he wants to control the levers of government and who his advisors were all year.

Bucky

(54,087 posts)
7. That's his job; his life's work.
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 01:01 PM
Dec 2016

Her husband is the president. Calling him as such and lobbying the first lady doesn't add legitimacy to their station. It just reminds them that they have responsibilities to meet, despite their utter lack of public mindedness up till now.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
15. There is actually a tradition
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 01:07 PM
Dec 2016

of daughters and nieces serving the hostess role of First Lady. Probably not the correct term in this case, but I am actually heartened that Trump's wife and son are not moving into the White House. She does not want it for her and her son, and she never asked for this exposure.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
21. I'm only concerned about the cost to taxpayers for security in Trump Tower
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 02:25 PM
Dec 2016

It's all well and good for them to stay there, but it costs too much and is too disruptive for everyone else there.

It is easier for the SS to protect them at the White House.

Considering that Trump doesn't pay taxes and that the SS is paying to rent space there, he is actually profiting from their staying there.

Sorceress

(309 posts)
24. Understood, however I would guess
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 02:49 PM
Dec 2016

There is NOT a tradition of said daughter or niece performing FL duties while simultaneously executing the blind trust set for the sitting Pres?

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
9. Jared Kushner?
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 01:03 PM
Dec 2016

Is he the president? We all have ideas about who the real president is. Maybe Jared is better than Mike Pence.

SamKnause

(13,110 posts)
10. Haven't you heard ???
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 01:03 PM
Dec 2016

Ivanka will be in charge of all things related to climate change.

I am sure she has many scientific degrees that qualify her for the position.

The entire family is sickening.

 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
22. I don't really find a degree
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 02:44 PM
Dec 2016

Necessary to liaison over issues related to climate change. I didn't have an issue with the flotus dealing with childhood obesity just because she didn't have a degree in exercise physiology.

Ligyron

(7,640 posts)
13. Actually, Ivanka's not that bad where it counts.
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 01:06 PM
Dec 2016

Her influence on Dad may act as a restraint.

Yeah, she's an entitled jewelry hawker but considering who else Donald hangs out with she's not that bad in person.

TwilightZone

(25,505 posts)
25. Works for me. Making an attempt to get the point across...
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 02:49 PM
Dec 2016

is better than doing nothing. Besides, there's a small chance that she might be a better audience than her father.

Not holding my breath (pun...er...not intended), but it's worth a shot.

hatrack

(59,594 posts)
28. She's a stinking pile of greenwash in $4,000 shoes
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 03:23 PM
Dec 2016

So she'll go out and give little speeches, and show us all just how concerned she really is (and by extension, President Pussygrabber).

Meanwhile, Daddy will turn over the EPA for gutting and flaying, shred any and all environmental laws, and do whatever his cronies tell him to do.

As climate change spins fully and finally beyond any hope of effective human remedy, as the North Atlantic Current collapses, and as fisheries and crops die, he'll quack about how it's all a big hoax, but we'll be all reassured, because his pampered little daughter "cares" about the issue.

Ivanka can go pound sand.

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