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FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 06:54 PM Jun 2012

For a while, Greece was a huge topic here. What happened?

Now the discussions get maybe one or two replies. Is it burnout? Disappointment in the results of Sunday's election? Nothing left to learn from the Greek people's experience?

In any case, I found a site presenting Greek news in English:

http://www.athensnews.gr/

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For a while, Greece was a huge topic here. What happened? (Original Post) FrodosPet Jun 2012 OP
It'll be back. kenny blankenship Jun 2012 #1
Somebody said the 'V' word! n/t Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #2
Porn trumps the news... same as it ever was? nt riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #3
Porn wars is more important apparently Harmony Blue Jun 2012 #4
Attention spans can be short. MineralMan Jun 2012 #5
Remember Occupy? n/t cherokeeprogressive Jun 2012 #6
A lot of people are no longer here. I used to write about Occupy, but we have lost some sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #12
We're waiting for the government to be formed so we can watch it collapse FarCenter Jun 2012 #7
Ekathimerini is also in English FarCenter Jun 2012 #8
Greece.. sendero Jun 2012 #9
Here's something from the League for a Fifth International ............ socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #10
Porn and Vaginas. Odin2005 Jun 2012 #11
I personally grew tired of too many uninformed replies. girl gone mad Jun 2012 #13

kenny blankenship

(15,689 posts)
1. It'll be back.
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 08:06 PM
Jun 2012

Austerity has yet to go into full effect in Greece and they've already been suffering from one of the most severe and protracted recessions in modern history. There are review periods in September and December in which Greece's Masters will assess how completely their will has been imposed. A rumor I've heard says that Citibank for one does not believe the ND party will be able to impose the full terms of the Memorandum on the Greek people and won't be able to get the terms loosened sufficiently to avoid a breakdown over there. The projection was that Grexit will happen regardless of who is in power. The cutoff will occur at one of those review periods. Perhaps the only real goal that the EU Troika (European Commission, the ECB and the IMF) wants to reach in its dealings with Greece is to keep it from blowing up just until they can deal with the Eurobond question, keeping Italy and Spain from going under in the meantime in part by stringing Greece along. After that the Greek people are on their own.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
12. A lot of people are no longer here. I used to write about Occupy, but we have lost some
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 09:07 PM
Jun 2012

very good DUers, and now, although I follow the movement closely and am thrilled with what they are doing every day, I don't bother to post here about it. DU's interests appear to have changed, but that doesn't mean anything, other than this may no longer be the place to discuss Greece eg, which I also follow closely, or Occupy.

Iow, when I want to read about topics like these, I do so elsewhere. Which is sad I suppose as I and others, used to come here to do so. However, those topics are as 'hot' as they ever were and maybe DU will return to being the place to go to keep up with them.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
7. We're waiting for the government to be formed so we can watch it collapse
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 08:49 PM
Jun 2012

It won't be able to implement the austerity program. It won't be able to change the deal with the EU significantly. It will have to leave the Eurozone.

But there is a lull in the action.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
9. Greece..
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 09:01 PM
Jun 2012

.... Spain, Italy - all are in similar boats. And the leaders of Europe are playing a shell game of bailouts without any real cash backing other and other kick-the-can delay tactics.

It can go on like this for a long time but not forever. And when it falls apart it is going to affect the entire world, not just Europe. Welcome to the new global economy!

girl gone mad

(20,634 posts)
13. I personally grew tired of too many uninformed replies.
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 09:17 PM
Jun 2012

If people don't want to bother learning very fundamental aspects of the crisis, such as monetary sovereignty vs. monetary non-sovereignty, what's the point of discussing the topic with them? These people want to believe what they want to believe, facts be damned. Trying to explain economic reality to the "lazy tax evaders" crowd is about as productive as trying to convince children that there is no Santa Clause.

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