So Trump's Ambassador to Israel is dissing his fellow Jews who favor a two state solution.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

So Trump's Ambassador to Israel is dissing his fellow Jews who favor a two state solution and comparing them to the Judenrat and Kapos. Deplorable ! Israel is not the United States. Yes, it is a regional superpower with nuclear weapons. But it is also the size of New Jersey. It doesn't have America's enormous margin of error and can not fight endless wars. Encouraging the most bellicose among them will not inure to their benefit. Any sane supporter of Israel has to see
that !!!

Also, and the thing I can not wrap my mind around and I point it out to the few Jewish supporters of Trump that I
meet , most of whom are right wing Israeli emigres, is that many Trump supporters hate Jews and by aligning themselves with Trump they are aligning themselves with those people. It wasn't Clinton supporters who retweeted photoshopped memes of Donald Trump leading his Jewish opponents to gas chambers.

Donald Trump is deplorable. His appointees are deplorable. His followers are deplorable. There is nothing good about him and them.

[still_one]

1. This asshole doesn't speak for American Jews or America. I happen to be Jewish, and he

sure DOESN'T speak for me.

The whole group of them are deplorables. The vast majority of American Jews detest trump, and his gang of deplorables.

[David__77]

2. Does he then advocate that residents of Gaza and West Bank become citizens?

Or that they be stateless subjects?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. If they become citizens Israel ceases to be a Jewish state.

If they annex those areas and don't let them vote Israel become an apartheid state.

A two state solution is in the best interests of both parties. It also is the moral position and I say that is someone who is supportive of Israel.

Encouraging the most nationalistic and right wing Israelis makes no more sense than encouraging the most nationalistic and right wing Americans.

Trump's policies are full of contradictions. Trump is supporting Russia's and Iran's interference in Syria and is making it a playground for those nations.

[David__77]

6. I don't get the Israeli right's opposition to two state solution.

In the absence of major ideological transformation of the viewpoint of Gaza and West Bank populations, one state solution may present Israel with major challenges beyond those presently faced. I suppose the status quo isn't unworkable from the perspective of many parties. I can imagine continuing for decades.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

7. I have had this discussion dozens of time.

I have had this discussion dozens of time with my Israeli ex pat friends. They run the gamut from what I would call pragmatic right to nationalist right.The advent of Trump makes me less optimistic about human nature in general. I used to take the "we can work it out." approach. Both sides have powerful narratives. If I'm an Israeli I can say I can trace my roots to the area back 6,000 years. We got kicked out. We were here. We returned. But there were always some of us here. If I'm a Palestinian I can say why should I give up my olive grove to some settler from Brooklyn.

A two state solution is in everybody's interest. You could do land swaps and make it work.

I don't think the Israelis play the long game. Maybe they can't. The current leadership seems to favor the status quo and leaving the Palestinians in limbo. The current leadership seems to believe as long as the Arabs fight among themselves they will have little time to fight Israel.


In closing I don't think it is in Israel's interest to provoke the Palestinians. That's what I see Trump encouraging the Israelis to do.

[JHan]

3. Where are all the clowns who voted for Trump to "shake up the system"..

This is status quo on steroids.

Idiots.

[FarCenter]

5. Slim Majorities of Israelis and Palestinians Want Two-State Solution: Poll

Joint Israeli-Palestinian poll has found that a small majority of Israelis and Palestinians still believe in a two-state solution that would end Israel’s military occupation and create an independent Palestinian state.

The poll, conducted by the Israel Democracy Institute and the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research, found that 58% of Israelis support the two-state solution as opposed to 51% percent of Palestinians.

Support for the two-state solution has been on a general downward trend over the last 10 years, said Tamar Hermann, the IDI researcher who measured Israeli attitudes. But the fact that a small majority of Israelis still favor it is notable, she said, given that the Israeli media downplays support for a negotiated settlement with the Palestinians.

“I would say that the situation is less dismal than I thought,” Hermann said. “It is dismal but not as gloomy as it is being portrayed by the media and the decision makers and the leaders on both sides.”

http://forward.com/news/israel/348153/slim-majorities-of-israelis-and-palestinians-want-two-state-solution-poll/