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zippythepinhead

(374 posts)
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 01:02 AM Dec 2016

Are republicans planning on screwing trump?

McCaine, Graham, are calling for an investigation into the russian hacking.

With a special prosecutor it might find out about collusion between putin and trump
in regards to rigging the election and other illegal practices that trump engaged in during his campaign.

Jeebus, pence would probably be worse than trump.

What do you think?


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yes i think they are planning this
9 (43%)
no way
3 (14%)
who the hell knows
5 (24%)
I don't care
0 (0%)
trump will be protected by god
0 (0%)
pence would be worse than trump
1 (5%)
ah fuck
1 (5%)
other
0 (0%)
all of the above
0 (0%)
other
2 (10%)
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Are republicans planning on screwing trump? (Original Post) zippythepinhead Dec 2016 OP
Can the yes voters elaborate? Cracklin Charlie Dec 2016 #1
Shakespeare was a prophet. C_U_L8R Dec 2016 #2
Only when he is no longer useful to them or becomes too much of an embarrassment. subterranean Dec 2016 #3
THIS socialist_n_TN Dec 2016 #13
They won't screw him -- they'll just grab him by the pussy LastLiberal in PalmSprings Dec 2016 #4
They want to but they are afraid his supporters will kill them. McCamy Taylor Dec 2016 #5
Trump is their fall guy. When they gut Medicare and Social Security and everything TeamPooka Dec 2016 #6
The current GOP base wants to get rid of Ryan, McConnell and crew onenote Dec 2016 #11
You fail to understand that Republicans are not logical thinkers. TeamPooka Dec 2016 #17
And you fail to understand their discipline. onenote Dec 2016 #18
They'll want to but... SunnyBaudelaire Dec 2016 #7
I believe they will eventually....But not now. PinkFloyd Dec 2016 #8
I doubt it because most are slimeballs and crooks! dmosh42 Dec 2016 #9
How can they screw Trump without screwing Pence with an election investigation? Thor_MN Dec 2016 #10
They'll hang on as long as he can promote their agenda. baldguy Dec 2016 #12
When they remake the TV series "The Fall Guy" it won't be about a stuntman, that's for sure! TheBlackAdder Dec 2016 #14
McCain and Graham will do anything they can ... surrealAmerican Dec 2016 #15
Not as long as he is useful to them. MyshkinCommaPrince Dec 2016 #16
Trump and Pence will be good little puppets. hunter Dec 2016 #19

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
1. Can the yes voters elaborate?
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 01:12 AM
Dec 2016

I just think it would be interesting to see how/when they might turn on him. Nice to imagine all the ways he could get his due.

subterranean

(3,495 posts)
3. Only when he is no longer useful to them or becomes too much of an embarrassment.
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 01:35 AM
Dec 2016

I think they're too afraid of upsetting Trump's rabid followers to try dumping him now.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
13. THIS
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 10:29 AM
Dec 2016

And I predict the problems will come a couple of years in over globalization OR a new Great Recession.

And I also predict that he will resign under the THREAT of impeachment rather than being impeached and convicted.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
5. They want to but they are afraid his supporters will kill them.
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 02:20 AM
Dec 2016

Because Trump's base is bat shit crazy. If the GOP tries to unseat him, they will declare them disloyal--and by the outlaws code, that makes them targets.

TeamPooka

(25,024 posts)
6. Trump is their fall guy. When they gut Medicare and Social Security and everything
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 02:26 AM
Dec 2016

else and the people get angry, even the GOP base, Ryan, McConnell and crew will point their fingers at Trump and say "He did it! You knew you couldn't trust him, look what that incompetent fool did"
And the GOP base will bite on it hook line and sinker

onenote

(43,879 posts)
11. The current GOP base wants to get rid of Ryan, McConnell and crew
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 09:00 AM
Dec 2016

You fail to understand that more people voted for Trump than for all repub house candidates (winning and losing) combined.

SunnyBaudelaire

(33 posts)
7. They'll want to but...
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 02:28 AM
Dec 2016

since the Russians also hacked the RNC the Repubs will be blackmailed into continuing to support tRump.

PinkFloyd

(296 posts)
8. I believe they will eventually....But not now.
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 03:28 AM
Dec 2016

For now, I suspect they'll play nice with him because as even they said, "He has no real stance on the issues, he's like a piece of unformed clay that they can mold". I'm also fairly certain that people like Ryan and McConnell will turn their heads as Trump robs us all blind and exploits the office in ways that would even make Nixon blush. Then, the instant he doesn't conform to what Ryan and McConnell want, they'll use what they know to burn Trump to the ground knowing Pence is waiting the wings once he's impeached.

At least that's how I believe this mess will play out. We've already seen Mitch taking steps to ensure nothing will ever come from the Russian hacking investigation.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
10. How can they screw Trump without screwing Pence with an election investigation?
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 08:28 AM
Dec 2016

If the goal is to screw Trump, any of a number of ethics violations will do. An election investigation will be a white wash because it could throw them out of power. McTurtle already has relegated it to "normal" channels where it will simply disappear.

Pence would be worse, he actually has a clue what he is doing and I fear a theocracy more than an idiocracy.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
12. They'll hang on as long as he can promote their agenda.
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 09:35 AM
Dec 2016

But Trump is a ticking time bomb. As soon as it looks like he's gong to crash & burn, they'll turn on him like a pack of hungry wolves. It won't be pretty.

surrealAmerican

(11,444 posts)
15. McCain and Graham will do anything they can ...
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 11:16 AM
Dec 2016

... to start a war - any war, any time, any where.

I doubt they are even considering Trump in this equation.

MyshkinCommaPrince

(611 posts)
16. Not as long as he is useful to them.
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 01:12 PM
Dec 2016

He's a good media lightning rod for them, at least in the short term. They can use him for distraction, perhaps lay all the blame on him for unpopular actions taken by their party and its larger movement. But they won't want to let their movement be defined by Trumpism, in the longer term. Trump, Pence, and Ryan are all pretty scary, representing different factions of the RW movement. Sooner or later, the factions they represent will be in conflict, each trying to define the future of the party. And Cheney's back in there, apparently, trying to make sure the Neocon faction doesn't get lost in the shuffle. When they start to fight over the future of their party, Trump is probably the easiest fall guy. I doubt the Big Money types behind the party really want Pence's Wannabe Theocracy any more than Trump's brand of populism.

There was a lot of talk on our side about how the Repugs have a fragile coalition, during the election. That's still true. The coming years won't be fun, but watching how they fall apart will at least be interesting.

hunter

(38,707 posts)
19. Trump and Pence will be good little puppets.
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 01:37 AM
Dec 2016

They'll read the words and sign the papers.

When they go off script the press will politely look the other way and cover for them.

I attended an event where Ronald Reagan made an appearance during his second term. What I saw, what everyone must have seen, was a confused old man who didn't know where the hell he was or what he was doing there. Nevertheless he managed to get off a few sound bites, and those were what the television news showed. The local paper reported the event as his handlers had planned it, complete with quotes from Reagan that I'm pretty sure he never said that night, not even to any reporters behind the curtain.

Just watch, somebody will cut off Trump's tiny little twitter thumbs soon. The twitter account will remain active, written by staffers, and idiot celebrity journalists will use these tweets as evidence that Trump's politics have "matured" or some similar nonsense.

Trump is a thin skinned narcissist and Pence is a knob. The actual job of President, the real work behind the scenes, will be done by big money Republican committee, the same sort of guys who kept GWB's dick out of the pencil sharpener.



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