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MBS

(9,688 posts)
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 11:36 AM Dec 2016

"Bibi, Trump, and Putin are yesterday's men"

http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/12/28/the-last-act-of-obamas-israel-drama-may-be-his-best-palestine-settlements-un-kerry/

The Israeli government’s settlement policy puts it on the wrong side of history, justice, demography, the law, its own interests — and therefore the interests of its friends and allies. For each of these reasons, Israel should neither be surprised nor outraged at the recent U.N. Security Council resolution condemning those settlements. Nor should they be offended by the U.S. government’s policy with respect to that vote, a policy that was well-articulated and defended by Secretary of State John Kerry in an address Wednesday. The Obama administration’s abstention, which enabled that resolution to pass, should for the same reasons not be seen as a betrayal. . . . The settlements are hurting Israel, and true friends have the courage to tell each other what they need to hear, even when they don’t want to hear it.
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Bibi’s spluttering outrage on this deal is not only unproductive; it is revealing in the worst ways. He speaks of betrayal and seeks to shutter relations with friends who supported the vote — but he betrayed both Israel’s interests and its best values when he instructed his emissary not to vote for an inquiry into war crimes in Syria a week earlier, as a craven sop to Vladimir Putin. That he could curry favor with a serial violator of international law and norms like Putin, fail to seek justice in Syria, and thus exacerbate tensions throughout the region, which will only increase risks for Israel, is a sign that for Bibi everything is about political tactics, not strategy or principles. He has succeeded at being prime minister largely by doing things that were good for his base in the short term and bad for his country in the long term.
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Now, of course, Bibi and his loud-mouthed bully boy of an ambassador here in the United States, Ron Dermer, are feeling empowered by the recent election of Donald Trump (who attacked the Obama-Kerry position from his Twitter-based Oval Office waiting room). Quite apart from the obvious notion that you must be in deep trouble when a foreign-policy neophyte and shoot-from-the-lip buffoon becomes your champion, Netanyahu and Co. are making a big mistake. Trump and his world-class awful choice of an ambassador to Israel, a far-right fringe character named David Friedman, may offer some succor to Netanyahu for a while. They may even enlist the help of Putin, friend to Bibi and the Donald. But this will only alienate the rest of the world — and massive portions of the base within the United States upon which the Israelis will depend for their long-term support. Further, there is a hard reality that has seemingly been tough to grasp for Israeli hard-liners: The only alternative to a two-state solution is a one-state solution — which cannot be a Jewish state if it is to be secure, sustainable, or just.

Bibi, Trump, and Putin are part of a dying breed, the last politicians of the 20th century. They seek to preserve realities that are founded in the post-World War II and Cold War realities in which their views were shaped. But the world has moved on from them, and future generations of leaders will see a radically different picture — one in which Israel not only has no better claim on its land than the Palestinians but one in which the memories of the Palestine Liberation Organization and much of Palestinian terrorism lie in the foggy past; in which Palestinians without a nation outnumber Israelis; in which Palestinians lack rights because Israelis deny them those rights; in which Russia is a failing state with a faltering economy; in which Russia is seen as a supporter of oppressors and not of the people (always a lousy long-term strategy); in which China and other powers are much more important; and one in which new technologies will empower new leaders in new ways, creating new threats and shifting the regional balance of power in the Middle East and elsewhere. Meanwhile, Trump will seek to bully a world he does not understand, one in which America’s leverage on trade has been diminished and in which his chosen tactics for doing so long ago proved to be ineffective and damaging to U.S. interests.


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"Bibi, Trump, and Putin are yesterday's men" (Original Post) MBS Dec 2016 OP
Cracking write up. Recommended:- JHan Dec 2016 #1
Yeah, I think it's a good one, too MBS Dec 2016 #2
Die already old men. smirkymonkey Dec 2016 #3
Murdoch first. nt eppur_se_muova Dec 2016 #9
"Bibi, Trump, and Putin are yesterday's men" Cha Dec 2016 #4
And they are. MBS Dec 2016 #5
I can't rec this enough AwakeAtLast Dec 2016 #6
so glad you like it! MBS Dec 2016 #7
Funny thing... Caliman73 Dec 2016 #8
He already has been. n/t MBS Dec 2016 #11
No doubt. Caliman73 Dec 2016 #12
yeah. MBS Dec 2016 #13
they're old school power mongers lunatica Dec 2016 #10

JHan

(10,173 posts)
1. Cracking write up. Recommended:-
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 11:52 AM
Dec 2016

"Meanwhile, Trump will seek to bully a world he does not understand, one in which America’s leverage on trade has been diminished and in which his chosen tactics for doing so long ago proved to be ineffective and damaging to U.S. interests."

Obama needed a third term or at least a President elect prepared to take his best ideas forward - OH WELL.


MBS

(9,688 posts)
2. Yeah, I think it's a good one, too
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 12:01 PM
Dec 2016

and you picked out my favorite sentence of the whole piece!

MBS

(9,688 posts)
5. And they are.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 12:30 PM
Dec 2016

The tricky part for us is: will we have a country and a planet left by the time they go extinct?

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
8. Funny thing...
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 01:15 PM
Dec 2016

Russia, though trying to have it both ways, actually voted to support the resolution though they said they had "Misgivings". What a load of BS. The United States did not support the resolution but merely abstained from using its veto, which it has done almost every time a resolution denouncing Israeli actions has come up in the Security Council.

Trump thinks that he can somehow come in and make a deal with Russia and Israel when Russia supports Iran and Syria who are mortal enemies of Israel. Trump will be played like a fool.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
12. No doubt.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 01:51 PM
Dec 2016

This situation sadly, is only the beginning. Trump is so easily manipulated that the two seasoned pros are going to have him doing things that are going to be dangerous for the United States.

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