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Conservative Charles Krauthammer on Trump (Original Post) CousinIT Dec 2016 OP
God I hate it when I agree with him. progressoid Dec 2016 #1
+1000! n/t AwakeAtLast Dec 2016 #5
+1000 N/T. lindysalsagal Dec 2016 #11
Yes Roy Rolling Dec 2016 #87
Thats the first fucking thing I thought upon reading this madokie Dec 2016 #14
Trump is THAT bad. That's how we got here. Nothing to worry about as far as stevenleser Dec 2016 #17
In this instance Ghost of Tom Joad Dec 2016 #53
Agree. Nt pbmus Dec 2016 #51
I know those were your words but I swear I heard them in my own voice. :-) Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2016 #23
Console yourself by remembering he helped pave the way for Trump JHB Dec 2016 #25
Beautifully said and dead on. nt trc Dec 2016 #41
me too eom LittleGirl Dec 2016 #46
The reason you agree with him Mr.Bill Dec 2016 #49
Not me. I love it when HE agrees with ME!!!!!! LakeArenal Dec 2016 #55
Ha! Good point. n/t progressoid Dec 2016 #56
Yep War Horse Dec 2016 #66
It is soooo bad if I am now on the same team as that guy. wildeyed Dec 2016 #57
I believe I also just saw a pig fly by! LakeArenal Dec 2016 #77
I bet he voted for trump though. brush Dec 2016 #71
+1000 IthinkThereforeIAM Dec 2016 #84
Guy still looks like Count Dracula.. mountain grammy Dec 2016 #2
He's paralyzed. longship Dec 2016 #16
And yet he's a conservative? nt raccoon Dec 2016 #54
I believe the guy who owns Free Republic is too. Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #67
with friends like that, who needs enemies? rurallib Dec 2016 #3
Ummm. . .when did I start agreeing with Joe Walsh, Lindsay Graham and this douchenozzle? Feeling the Bern Dec 2016 #4
What's that expression? lillypaddle Dec 2016 #38
One of few sensible things he's ever said in his political life. JHan Dec 2016 #6
Some fancy words for trump is a Cha Dec 2016 #7
Well, Krauthammer is an MD psychiatrist. longship Dec 2016 #8
Ditto. K and some Republicans have independent thoughts. Newsworthy Alice11111 Dec 2016 #80
Wow, I actually agree with a conservative for once. smirkymonkey Dec 2016 #9
OMG This fuckwad got something right!! Is there hope? NAH. pangaia Dec 2016 #10
pity he had nothing like this to say during the campaign. niyad Dec 2016 #60
Looks like he said it in August. See JHAN's post #22 below. pangaia Dec 2016 #62
Can somebody explain this dude for me, pls? He worked for MONDALE & is a whacked wingnut. UTUSN Dec 2016 #12
He said this in August, shortly after Trump's attack on the Khan's ( I think) ... JHan Dec 2016 #22
Yip, a mass of contradictions, some on our side. His Wiki bio UTUSN Dec 2016 #42
At least he believes in science Alice11111 Dec 2016 #81
Tweety also cried when Gore conceded, after trashing him daily all 2000 UTUSN Dec 2016 #82
A picture is worth a thousand words. mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2016 #13
Yep, Trump crawling around in shit and taking it everywhere he goes nt iluvtennis Dec 2016 #50
Krauthammer makes a lot of sense here. democrank Dec 2016 #15
Yes, this is the first time I've seen that word used re Trump .... eppur_se_muova Dec 2016 #34
Is Trump really that different from Kim Jong Un? Still In Wisconsin Dec 2016 #18
He just has a much bigger playground. Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #68
Geeez, Charlie! 90-percent Dec 2016 #19
very well put. barbtries Dec 2016 #20
As he looks in the mirror... nt Xipe Totec Dec 2016 #21
Spot-on!! ailsagirl Dec 2016 #24
Gather up the ice skates BlueMTexpat Dec 2016 #26
Fuck you, Krauthammer. Paladin Dec 2016 #27
Thank you! GoCubsGo Dec 2016 #52
It is still difficult to comprehend how trump became the elected one liberal N proud Dec 2016 #28
When did he say this? SHRED Dec 2016 #29
Trump responds by outlawing handicap ramps griloco Dec 2016 #30
i think people are underestimating the depth of the contempt out there. mopinko Dec 2016 #31
I think so too-- his presidency and approval is a house of cards Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #32
With a VP-elect more controllable than the pResident-elect, Trump is far from indispensable. eppur_se_muova Dec 2016 #37
They can have it look like an outside job, and use it as Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #69
Sounds about right.. coco22 Dec 2016 #33
Somebody is going to have to help Trump look up "solipsism" Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #35
Bringing down the hammer... RobertDevereaux Dec 2016 #36
Wait until the Seniors who voted Trump realize Medicare and the VA are screwed. sarcasmo Dec 2016 #39
Yep, Chuckles rode the Conservatrain all the way over the cliff . . . hatrack Dec 2016 #40
Trump probably doesn't have the first clue regarding the meaning of that statement. Tatiana Dec 2016 #43
It's going to be fun to listen to this smug bastard for four years wryter2000 Dec 2016 #44
k&r bdamomma Dec 2016 #45
piss on kruathammer anyway. KG Dec 2016 #47
Don't be too encouraged by this. Hotter heads will prevail DFW Dec 2016 #48
Good for you, Charles, now tell me... MarianJack Dec 2016 #58
It takes one to know one, Charles. nt SunSeeker Dec 2016 #59
And I'd wager awoke_in_2003 Dec 2016 #61
I'm sure he wrote that before the election. He'll fall in line if he hasn't already. catbyte Dec 2016 #63
and Kraut's a psychoanalyst! elleng Dec 2016 #64
He's lying in the bed he helped make. Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #65
A Real Conservative tells the truth. Trump is neither a Conservative nor a Liberal. Just a YOHABLO Dec 2016 #70
i had to look up the definition of Solipsism. It's a pretty good word. Calista241 Dec 2016 #72
Even a broken clock... david4justice49 Dec 2016 #73
I don't like Krauthammer overall, but he also looked frightened... Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #74
I gotta give him points for using solipsism in a sentence. tclambert Dec 2016 #75
Damn, I give him points for usimng the word at all. I had to google it to find out what the heck napi21 Dec 2016 #85
What does it say about his supporters? n/t left-of-center2012 Dec 2016 #76
THEY ARE FUCKING STUPID ASSHOLES Skittles Dec 2016 #83
He hates Trump but....... WcoastO Dec 2016 #78
I dislike agreeing with Krauthammer but...Truth! dae Dec 2016 #79
Watergate 2016 on course. McCamy Taylor Dec 2016 #86
 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
17. Trump is THAT bad. That's how we got here. Nothing to worry about as far as
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 12:45 PM
Dec 2016

worrying about agreeing with folks with whom you normally don't agree.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
25. Console yourself by remembering he helped pave the way for Trump
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 01:27 PM
Dec 2016

All conservative pundits, relentlessly slagging Democrats, continually pimping "Clinton scandals" when it was them just recirculating their own hot air, always redbaiting anything they don't like, ready to burn the country down if they don't get their way. Every foreign policy they don't care for is "Munich".

The Disownership Society can try to claim they had nothing to do with Trump all they want, but they paved the road and they can't hide their asphalt stink.

Mr.Bill

(24,303 posts)
49. The reason you agree with him
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 04:38 PM
Dec 2016

is he is just articulating what most people on this forum feel already. He and other pundits like him are no smarter than the rest of us, they are just more articulate than most. I feel the same way about George Will. I always read him not because I thought he was more intelligent, but because he is a great wordsmith and I am an avid fan of the craft of the English language.

Be careful not to confuse being articulate with intelligence. The two can go hand in hand, but they are often confused for each other.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
57. It is soooo bad if I am now on the same team as that guy.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 06:35 PM
Dec 2016

I retweeted Kristol recently too. Must be a cold day in hell.....

longship

(40,416 posts)
16. He's paralyzed.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 12:40 PM
Dec 2016

Diving accident during his first year at Harvard Medical School. He later graduated with an MD in psychiatry.

Krauthammer is wheelchair bound.

Crunchy Frog

(26,587 posts)
67. I believe the guy who owns Free Republic is too.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 07:55 PM
Dec 2016

Why would that preclude someone from being a RW asshole?

Cha

(297,322 posts)
7. Some fancy words for trump is a
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 12:04 PM
Dec 2016

crawling infant in a man's body and needs his pacifier stat.

I love it when the so-called conservatives start jawing on drumpfft They must not be scared of him.

longship

(40,416 posts)
8. Well, Krauthammer is an MD psychiatrist.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 12:04 PM
Dec 2016

He graduated from Harvard Medical School. He helped compile the DSM-III.

So he is more or less qualified to diagnose Drumpf.

Frankly, I am not a Krauthammer fan, however this is nevertheless interesting.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
62. Looks like he said it in August. See JHAN's post #22 below.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 07:20 PM
Dec 2016

And now, like all the others, he's licking trumps ass... which is the activity he spends most of his life doing.. when and wherever he finds a tasty ass to lick...

UTUSN

(70,711 posts)
12. Can somebody explain this dude for me, pls? He worked for MONDALE & is a whacked wingnut.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 12:22 PM
Dec 2016

And he rags on Dems/OBAMA constantly up to a minute ago, then he says this (which I like)?!1

JHan

(10,173 posts)
22. He said this in August, shortly after Trump's attack on the Khan's ( I think) ...
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 01:12 PM
Dec 2016

So don't expect consistency. Charlie is already falling in line - he said Trump should turn the UN into condos because of the recent resolution against Isreali settlements.

UTUSN

(70,711 posts)
42. Yip, a mass of contradictions, some on our side. His Wiki bio
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 02:44 PM
Dec 2016

First, for these several years that I never looked up his bio, I suspected that his wingnuttiness derived solely from Israel-First, but then there's all this:

* CARTER administration. Now, for me, there was a nest of vipers at Jimmy's breast: Tweety (who traitored over to RAYGUN), CADDELL, David RUBENSTIN/Carlyle Group (although a humanitarian/philanthropist). And now I know, this KRAUTHAMMER. A nest of vipers.

* Coined the "RAYGUN Doctrine".

* "contributed to creating the DSM5" - the diagnostic manual for psychiatry. Funny that "contributed to creating" is same verbiage about "contributed to inventing" the internet that got twisted and hung on Al GORE.

* Is FOR legalizing abortion, AGAINST "intelligent design"/creationism, FOR stem cell research, FOR the Two State solution (same as the brilliant exegesis KERRY delivered yesterday (40? yrs of U.S. policy), FOR science (evolution), FOR energy tax to stimulate conservation.


So, as a psychiatrist/MD he's qualified to diagnose DRUMPF. And despite his points on our side, he eviscerates Dems/OBAMA/CLINTON every night.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
81. At least he believes in science
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 01:11 AM
Dec 2016

Never could stand him. However, you give him a pretty good resume. Geez, he is Not crazy! This elevates him to the 1% of the Republicans. Let him attack, if he is pro choice, pro 2 state, etc., then, we need him now. Our government has descended into toddlers and neanderthals. We need to find sane people who have influence among them. Remember, we control NO branch of government, and even the moderate and left press helped BIGLY elect Putin, excuse me, Trump. Chris Matthews interviewed/ fawned over Conway a full hour right b4 a debate. He cried on election night, but he too was responsible.

democrank

(11,096 posts)
15. Krauthammer makes a lot of sense here.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 12:33 PM
Dec 2016

An added bonus...I now know the definition of SOLIPSISM, used perfectly here in reference to Trump`s cocoon.

Crunchy Frog

(26,587 posts)
68. He just has a much bigger playground.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 08:01 PM
Dec 2016

And doesn't have the means to dispense with anyone who gets under his skin. Yet.

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
19. Geeez, Charlie!
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 12:51 PM
Dec 2016

If you know Trump so well, have you not considered that you will be INMATE NUMBER ONE at The U.S. Government FEMA Camp for lyin' journalists?

It's time for all talking heads TO WATCH WHAT THEY SAY!

-90% Jimmy

PS - Charlie has go this Kissenger speaking voice, that is like chalk on a blackboard. Phlegm-speak

ailsagirl

(22,897 posts)
24. Spot-on!!
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 01:24 PM
Dec 2016

I'm glad he's not slobbering all over drumpf, as are so many other flip-flopping repukes-- he's been consistent with his opinion and isn't being swayed

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
26. Gather up the ice skates
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 01:28 PM
Dec 2016

because Hell has frozen over!

Krauthammer speaks truth for the first time ever.

Paladin

(28,264 posts)
27. Fuck you, Krauthammer.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 01:32 PM
Dec 2016

You're a long-time member of the conservative propaganda machine, which dumbed down enough of the electorate to make a Trump presidency a reality. So don't come around now, whining about Trump's many faults. You're late, motherfucker.

liberal N proud

(60,336 posts)
28. It is still difficult to comprehend how trump became the elected one
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 01:33 PM
Dec 2016

There were so many republicans and conservatives who were against trump, that his defeat was almost certain. I am still having trouble with this.

mopinko

(70,127 posts)
31. i think people are underestimating the depth of the contempt out there.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 01:55 PM
Dec 2016

folks may be falling in line to save their asses, but when push comes to shove, it think his majesty will be quite surprised just how vicious those w a brain will be.

eppur_se_muova

(36,269 posts)
37. With a VP-elect more controllable than the pResident-elect, Trump is far from indispensable.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 02:26 PM
Dec 2016

If the R's need to get rid of him, they will. It'll be better for the Party. They have the WH and Congress, they hold all the cards, and they just don't need him anymore.

(By some strange coincidence, it may turn out to be better for the country -- although it more likely will be worse -- but rest assured that does not enter into their calculations. Fuck the country, save the KGBOP ! )

Maru Kitteh

(28,341 posts)
35. Somebody is going to have to help Trump look up "solipsism"
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 02:19 PM
Dec 2016

On a side note, I hate being made to agree with that Muppet

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
40. Yep, Chuckles rode the Conservatrain all the way over the cliff . . .
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 02:36 PM
Dec 2016

And now he wants off, and a refund as well.

Fuck. Him.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
43. Trump probably doesn't have the first clue regarding the meaning of that statement.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 02:47 PM
Dec 2016

The world is upside down when I agree with Charles Krauthammer.

wryter2000

(46,051 posts)
44. It's going to be fun to listen to this smug bastard for four years
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 03:06 PM
Dec 2016

I wonder if he has any idea how much he contributed to someone like Trump rising to power.

DFW

(54,407 posts)
48. Don't be too encouraged by this. Hotter heads will prevail
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 04:21 PM
Dec 2016

I was just talking to radical right wing fundraiser and propagandist Richard Viguerie (yes, he's a friend--LONG story), and I thought I would egg him on a bit saying, "you know Trump is no conservative." He just smiled and said,"don't you liberals get it? I don't care if Trump himself is a communist as long as he appoints guys from the hard right to run the government."

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
58. Good for you, Charles, now tell me...
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 06:53 PM
Dec 2016

...just HOW MANY columns did you write about Hillary Clinton's emails? Hmmm...?

PEACE!

elleng

(130,974 posts)
64. and Kraut's a psychoanalyst!
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 07:41 PM
Dec 2016

a psychiatrist involved in the creation of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders III

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Krauthammer

(Not 'practicing')

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
70. A Real Conservative tells the truth. Trump is neither a Conservative nor a Liberal. Just a
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 08:06 PM
Dec 2016
MEGALOMANIAC

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
72. i had to look up the definition of Solipsism. It's a pretty good word.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 08:17 PM
Dec 2016

sol·ip·sism

the view or theory that the self is all that can be known to exist.

a theory holding that the self can know nothing but its own modifications and that the self is the only existent thing; also : extreme egocentrism

david4justice49

(11 posts)
73. Even a broken clock...
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 08:19 PM
Dec 2016

Is right twice a day. Though I wholeheartedly agree with his assessment of heir drumpf.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
74. I don't like Krauthammer overall, but he also looked frightened...
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 08:20 PM
Dec 2016

by the idea of Trump having access to the nuclear launch codes a few months ago while talking to O'Reilly about him. I agreed with his assessment in that regard too!

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
75. I gotta give him points for using solipsism in a sentence.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 10:14 PM
Dec 2016

I don't think it exactly applies to Trump, though. He does acknowledge a world outside himself, desperately craves its approval, and throws a tantrum whenever he doesn't get it.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
85. Damn, I give him points for usimng the word at all. I had to google it to find out what the heck
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 02:08 AM
Dec 2016

it meant! I feel good now. I learned a new word!

WcoastO

(55 posts)
78. He hates Trump but.......
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 11:19 PM
Dec 2016

hates Clinton even more.......in his last column before the election he trashed Clinton for 3/4 of the column......then wrote a few mildly negative comments about Trump.

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