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ravencalling

(285 posts)
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 02:23 PM Dec 2016

My mom and Trump

My mom and I have stopped discussing Trump. It is a sore subject between us so we just agree to not talk about it. My mom is 80 yrs old. An intellectual in her time. Saw Kennedy speak and supported him. She is now of diminished capacity so yes I forgive her. But I would like to share some of these conversations.. Here is what she said today and what she believes. "I have a good feeling about Trump.. I don't know why.. Just give him a chance". When I try to give her facts about him she just says "I don't believe it and I don't want to hear it!" She saw Trump early on in the media and I guess what he said resonated with her at that time. She is anti-immigrant so I am guessing that is what she grabbed onto. Everything else she ignored. She says that all of the negative stuff is just the media lying about him and exclaims that she doesn't believe it. She will stop any conversation that states anything negative even if factual. Sadly she depends on the very programs Trump will attack but again she refuses to believe that. I will be the one who has to care for her financially but I don't think she comprehends this either. I am not going to try to convince her. Why anti-immigrant? Because she didn't like some of her noisy neighbors where she lived previously, convinced they had no manners and so stereotyped everyone into the same bucket. Pretty simple. We talked today about reading comprehension in this country, poetry, Herman Hesse books.. And then I mentioned that Trump doesn't read.. And you guessed it "I don't believe that and I don't want to talk about it"....

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My mom and Trump (Original Post) ravencalling Dec 2016 OP
Sounds a lot like one of my aunts. progressoid Dec 2016 #1
Yup mom was also a democrat ravencalling Dec 2016 #9
They will most likely "grandfather in" the rules Generator Dec 2016 #2
I understand blue cat Dec 2016 #3
There is so much more you and your mom can talk about and do lunatica Dec 2016 #4
I'll give trump credit for one thing.. he exposed racism nini Dec 2016 #5
Yes I am really worried about being the sandwich generation ravencalling Dec 2016 #8
Works both ways, folks jehop61 Dec 2016 #6
Wow ravencalling Dec 2016 #7
My mom is 90 and doesn't want to talk to anyone who voted for trump - milestogo Dec 2016 #10
My mom will be 80 in less than a month ... this is the first time in my life my mother ... etherealtruth Dec 2016 #11

progressoid

(49,991 posts)
1. Sounds a lot like one of my aunts.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 02:31 PM
Dec 2016

She went from being a blue collar Democrat to a Trump republican this last year. It was a pretty disturbing thing to witness.
I don't see her much but when I do, I deliberately avoid talking politics.

ravencalling

(285 posts)
9. Yup mom was also a democrat
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 05:34 PM
Dec 2016

It is like we have let the sleazy salesmen steal our elderly. But I do not know what I could have done to prevent it. Heartbreaking.

 

Generator

(7,770 posts)
2. They will most likely "grandfather in" the rules
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 02:32 PM
Dec 2016

for medicare and ss. So it will people like me and other that suffer in a few years and not your mom. Just find some peace-the world has changed and she hasn't.

blue cat

(2,415 posts)
3. I understand
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 02:34 PM
Dec 2016

I live with and help take care my 82 year old father.
We don't talk Trump anymore. We both know how the other feels about him.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
4. There is so much more you and your mom can talk about and do
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 02:35 PM
Dec 2016

that's wonderful. Go for that. She's probably doing her best not to lose hope for her country. No American wants to die in a country that's lost its way so badly. Especially when they're part of the Greatest Generation. It's just too much to deal with.

My mother couldn't stand that the Bush Administration had come into power. It did't take her long to sink into Dementia. My mother was also an intellectual and a political junkie. It was heartbreaking but she did forget and lived a few years unaware of what was happening to her beloved country.

nini

(16,672 posts)
5. I'll give trump credit for one thing.. he exposed racism
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 02:44 PM
Dec 2016

Sadly so many only heard that part of what he spouted and will pay dearly for what they lose in the next few years.

Aging parents need more than we can give when we work full time etc.. Losing those safety nets in place is going to make it near impossible to do it all.


ravencalling

(285 posts)
8. Yes I am really worried about being the sandwich generation
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 05:31 PM
Dec 2016

and what will our children and grandchildren face? No one wants to be a burden. Do people not even think about these consequences?

jehop61

(1,735 posts)
6. Works both ways, folks
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 03:07 PM
Dec 2016

I have three millenial grandchildren with whom I can't even post liberal viewpoints on Facebook without them arguing and trying to tear then down. Had to hide them to avoid total estrangement. PS they live in the South.

ravencalling

(285 posts)
7. Wow
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 05:28 PM
Dec 2016

Sorry to hear that. I have a feeling my son in law and I don't see eye to eye on this. I don't even go there. There are too many values I hold near and dear. Heart is already broken regarding our country and the direction I see things going in so I leave well enough alone. I live in the South. But this is not my home.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
10. My mom is 90 and doesn't want to talk to anyone who voted for trump -
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 05:43 PM
Dec 2016

which is most everyone except me. THANK GOD she still is thinking clearly.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
11. My mom will be 80 in less than a month ... this is the first time in my life my mother ...
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 05:49 PM
Dec 2016

... has discussed politics publicly (she has always believed politics and religion are personal and impolite to discuss with acquaintances, much less in public).

She has been very outspoken about what voting for a sexist, racist, bigoted moron says about a voter (she has not minced words or softened her thought): If you support racism, sexism and bigotry ... you are a racist, sexist bigot.

Seeing this in some of her friends has been very disconcerting and difficult for her.

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