The real point of LaydeeBug's beautiful post

[malaise]

is not just that we must defend those targeted by Deplorables but also and as important is that we must take them on in public. They will soon be viewed as pariah/shithounds.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028411376

[LaydeeBug]

1. Thank you so much. We really are stronger together. nt

[malaise]

5. That was how it must be done - they will not get away with dissing

people .

[calimary]

56. NO. It may take getting in their face about it.

Because nobody does, on Pox Noise. Nobody does on hate radio. Only "mega-dittos" allowed. There are no consequences for their lousy attitudes and shitty priorities and staggering mean-spiritedness, arrogance, cruelty! They SNEER at empathy. Remember when dick cheney did? LAUGHED and SCOFFED and SNEERED at the idea of empathy. Like it signified something against one's manhood or some such shit. HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE excuses for human beings, they are.

I try to understand. I try to understand these people. I try every day. And it's damn hard. Damn near impossible, really.

[malaise]

58. I no longer try

Some people are just scumbags - heartless & greedy- they would steal from their own

[LaydeeBug]

64. The *reason* there are 'mega-dittoes' is because they DON'T. WANT. TO. THINK.

They want to be TOLD what to think

[calimary]

65. Yep.

I actually heard rush limbaugh state, flat-out, on the air: "you don't even have to think! I'LL do the thinking FOR you!"

I sat there, in the car, mouth agape. We all joke about statements like that. But he actually said it - said THAT. Word for word.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

2. I like how Deplorables has become part of common parlance.

[malaise]

12. Yep - and every thinking person

knows what it means...including them.

[LaydeeBug]

14. They are emboldened now. We have to tap that down

bigly.

[lpbk2713]

3. Goes to show ...

You never know when you will get support from others around you.

I'm so proud of her for taking the chance.

[malaise]

6. You shouldn't fugging care

whether you are getting support - not when they think it's cool to belittle people in public.
Caring for others is a conviction - we have to stop standing by politely. Take them fugging on!

[LaydeeBug]

17. This was taught to me in private school. If you know better, you say something

GOD expects you to stand for the meek.

And we can debate whether or not she is actually 'meek' and those implications, or we can just start standing the fuck up, like our GRANDPARENTS would want us to.

[malaise]

18. Our Grandparents were so much tougher than we are

and they had convictions

[LaydeeBug]

20. Yep. You shared. You don't judge until you've walked in their shoes, or right

beside them barefoot.

[malaise]

23. One of my paternal granny's regular lines was

'there but for the grace of god go I'.
(she did believe that)

[Eliot Rosewater]

4. And the point I made to her that I want to make again is if you are a man and you do

this expect to be beaten or if they are smaller than you, threatened.

Soon they will discard the old idea that women are off limits for beatings (in public anyway), but until then men need to be especially careful.

I walked into the pizza store last night, wearing my very nice sweatshirt from Nordstrom, a gift at Xmas, with the RAINBOW RIBBON I had embroidered onto it the very next day, and received threatening looks from a group of the neanderthals.

It is important to remember these people actually do hate you if you fit into any of the categories that we all know too well.

[malaise]

8. Cowards die a thousand deaths

I don't give a shit who hates me - never did. They can only kill me once - death can't be worse than having them in charge. When they attempt to belittle, diss or use racist language we cannot remain silent - good grief are people that afraid of these morons

[Eliot Rosewater]

32. I am actually trying to make a point of how horrible they are, not an excuse not

to act or react.

Personally I have a little trick I do, I have LG earbud headset and I am usually listening to my music or a political show but when I know I will be around the neanderthals I pretend I am in a conversation that goes something like this, and I am loud about it too:

"Yeah, I know, Trump is gonna take all of our benefits, and all because a bunch of white people wanted to show how much they hate the black president"

I pretend I am talking to someone of course. I fully expect serious repercussions any day now, but like you I dont fucking care.

[malaise]

35. LOL

heheheheh

[Eliot Rosewater]

36. "Oh yeah, Bob, I know

I mean how fucking god damn STUPID do you have to be to believe a word coming out of dipshit trump's mouth?"


I do that one often.

[malaise]

44. Seriously that requires a level of stupid

way below my radar

[TheFrenchRazor]

43. couldn't have said it better. nt

[bravenak]

60. THANK YOU

[DLevine]

26. Women get beaten up all the time. nt

[LaydeeBug]

39. I noticed your need to use fear of and/or violence as a deterrent to doing the right thing

I said it that thread, and I will say it here...better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.

Stand up!

I'm 5'2". I could probably play a hobbit, lol. But we are the same size once we're on the ground, and I can concealed carry too.

A bully will bully you until you fight back.

[Eliot Rosewater]

40. No, I thought I was just making a point of how violent and terrible they are.

And was loudly applauding what you did.

Then I explained that in actual real life I do something very similar to what you do, I just mentioned it here.

Sorry if I gave you any other impression, sincerely.

[LaydeeBug]

42. They aren't violent and terrible when you cut them down to size

and I don't want you to think I am taking a TONE with you, because this is a message board and lots gets lost in it

LOL.

[Eliot Rosewater]

45. No, you are not at all, and if you were taking a tone with me I would deserve it, trust me

I am a real pain in the ass, actually.



I am so angry that the FBI and Russians hacked our elections, and in that I include voting machines hacked by the Russians or someone.

This election was more than stolen like the two W elections were stolen. This one was compromised by our enemy who is now best friends with "certain" Americans because he is a white man.

What he is in reality is a murderous dictator and I believe Donald Trump wants to be one also.

More people did not vote for Donald Trump in those 3 rust belt states, no chance. Bullshit. All this shit about what did we learn, we learned that we won the election and once again the republicans stole an election. Not like there isnt precedence for this.

[LaydeeBug]

47. They. keep. doing. it. and. pretending. it's. par. for. the. course. nt

[awoke_in_2003]

51. How many Germans in the 30s

refused to say anything because they were afraid of what might happen? Don't tell me fascism won't come here, it has been creeping closer and closer for over 30 years.

[niyad]

61. it arrived full force on 11/9/2016

[niyad]

7. wearing my pin or not, NOBODY gets to be an asshole around me. as I agreed in another OP

several days ago, I have no fucks left to give, and will take on anybody who tries to belittle, demean, hurt or humiliate anyone else in my presence.

[malaise]

10. The pin has no meaning without action

They must be afraid to belittle, demean, hurt or humiliate people.

[niyad]

13. I think I have to go back to wearing spike heels as well.

[malaise]

15. Hehehehehehhe

[niyad]

16. they come in handy sometimes!!

[LaydeeBug]

41. amen!!!

[doggie breath]

9. I am surrounded

by red voting racists (look up Livingston County, Michigan) but I also have a CPL and know how to use it if I have to.

[malaise]

11. What is a CPL?

Welcome to DU

[oberliner]

22. License to carry a concealed weapon

Is what I am thinking.

[malaise]

24. Thanks

[doggie breath]

25. CPL

Concealed Pistol License.

Around where I live, every Bubba and his brother has a gun in the car, trunk or bed of their truck.
During hunting season it sounds like Mosul on a busy day. I'm afraid to even let my dogs out since most of these morons will shoot at anything that moves.

[snpsmom]

37. Same here in Sanilac County

[Gothmog]

19. Agreed

[oberliner]

21. Screaming obscenities at people is not the way to go

In fact, it is probably the opposite.

[DonCoquixote]

27. obscenties is a risk

but have you considered that the very reason they feel they can kick us around is because we try to be polite, and American has taught people that being polite means we FEAR them?

[oberliner]

29. I agree that standing up to this person was good

I just question that method of doing so.

[NastyRiffraff]

48. The obscenity was that asshole she screamed at

Personally, I'm tired of trying to be polite when someone is acting like a bigoted jerk (BJ). If the BJ doesn't like my language, he (and it's often a he) can shut up, go away, or apologize.

Democrats as a group are too fucking polite. I don't CARE if a BJ is offended by curses.

Kudos to LaydeeBug!

[cwydro]

53. I agree.

And if I were the person being "defended", I would have felt humiliated.

But I think we know what the story was about, don't we?

[JPPaverage]

28. Agreed

As I told her in my reply to her post, and as I posted in an earlier incarnation here in DU, I once told a trumpite I'd rip his head off his shoulders and shove it up his ass. He said stuff about my kid. Nobody does that. I may have reacted wrongly, but I don't care. LaydeeBug reacted in a great way and I admire her for it. Fuck these trumpites. We must stand up to them and if it takes cursing and/or threats, then so be it. Btw, I am a large man, so people sometimes take me seriously when I "discuss" things with them. Especially when they are all show and no go.

[oberliner]

30. An earlier incarnation in DU?

What does that mean?

[JPPaverage]

33. It means I had a different username

I was known as Bluzmann57 but after the attack on election day, I was unable to recover my password. I contacted the administrators several times to no avail and finally just said, "Screw it, I'll just change my username." If I can ever remember my password, I will go back to my former username. But either way, I'm still the same guy.

[oberliner]

38. Interesting

I thought you were saying you went through some kind of ideological transformation.

[JPPaverage]

46. No no.

Maybe my choice of words wasn't the best, but I'm still the same guy.

[cwydro]

54. I keep seeing these posts from folks who say they couldn't come back as themselves after the hack.

I had no problem.

Neither did 99.9% of posters as far as I know. I see the same names with the same post counts.

[niyad]

62. hi bluzmann57, good to see you again, whatever incarnation!!

[malaise]

31. LOL

Nice - welcome to DU

[JPPaverage]

34. Thanks.

See the above post.

[Marthe48]

49. 65,844,610 for HRC + 7, 800,000 for 3rd parties v. 62, 900,000 for d.ump

The majority is not deplorable. But the majority needs to speak up. I blasted somebody at the post office last year for Fauxspeak, and wasn't banned from the building

[H2O Man]

50. Recommendation #50

Thank you.

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

52. I hope there's another store nearby

because he ain't going back there!

Good on ya!

[Tikki]

55. Plus they can no longer say the have the 'Moral Values' high ground...not with trump and his...

talk about physically hurting any woman he wants and bullying the disabled.

If they try to turn the subject to what might or might not have happened with Democratic men...
turn the subject right back on them...with trump, gingrich, guiliana, etc, it should be easy...

You might, also, remind them if cuts in Social Security and Medicare happen it is their
responsibility to make up any difference their parents need...out of their own pocket.

If cuts in the VA happen they are being UNAMERICAN.

Make them verbally explain themselves in some kind of detail, to those gathered in ear shot, as to why they say what they said.

Tikki

[malaise]

57. +1,000

They are going to privatize MIC - and enrich themselves

[heaven05]

59. We must stand for the next 4 years

never give in. I am chomping at the bit for something like this to happen on my watch.

[Solly Mack]

63. Yes