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matmar

(593 posts)
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:13 AM Jun 2012

It's not Romney's fault he outsourced jobs from America for profit....

The fault lies with a de-regulated capitalist system and a bought and paid for body politic.

Bill Clinton gave us NAFTA, Barack Obama is trying to give us TPP.

Obama cannot attack Romney for oursourcing jobs when he himself has passed the Columbia, Panama, South Korea Free Trade Agreement that will enable more of the same and is working on the Trans-Pacific Partnership that will be even worse.

Why does it take a Democrat in the White House to get these extreme business-friendly, anti-labor, Republican measures passed into law?

To attack Romney for these destructive practices (to the American Middle Class) is to rely on low-information voters' lack of knowledge of these types of things.

Progressives know otherwise.

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It's not Romney's fault he outsourced jobs from America for profit.... (Original Post) matmar Jun 2012 OP
Why stop ProSense Jun 2012 #1
Nonsense. matmar Jun 2012 #2
Speaking of ProSense Jun 2012 #3
No. matmar Jun 2012 #5
Oh, thank you for letting us go after Romney for killing jobs. FarLeftFist Jun 2012 #4

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
1. Why stop
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:52 AM
Jun 2012
It's not Romney's fault he outsourced jobs from America for profit...Bill Clinton gave us NAFTA, Barack Obama is trying to give us TPP...Obama cannot attack Romney for oursourcing job...To attack Romney for these destructive practices (to the American Middle Class) is to rely on low-information voters' lack of knowledge of these types of things.

...at Romney? It's not the "fault" of Walmart, the Wall Street bankers and other greedy corporations. Give them a pass too. Stop demanding they be held accountable. Blame it on Clinton, it's his fault. Should he be arrested?

Obama can still attack since his policies had nothing to do with Bain or the economic crisis. He wasn't in office. Your claims about what his policies might do are speculative since they haven't been implemented.

So Obama can still attack Romney while you give him pass. He'll appreciate the support.


Yeah, only "low information" voters don't realize that "it's not Romney's fault."

"Progressives know otherwise." Romney is not to blame.

Congratulations, you're to right of Cory Booker, "progressive."

 

matmar

(593 posts)
2. Nonsense.
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 11:11 AM
Jun 2012

The system, as it is rigged, requires higher and higher profits and stock price at any cost. That means dumping your middle class lifestyle wage job and sending it to slave wage economies like India and China.

Bill Clinton greased the skids by pushing for and passing NAFTA. If you want to ignore past performance of these deals on labor in America that's your prerogative. But it happens to be the case.

I'm not saying what Romney and Bain did is moral or ethical. I'm saying they did what was allowed of them to do by the system that they paid for.

For Obama to attack him on those issues is kind of hypocritical since he's passed the trade deal with Columbia, Panama and South Korea and is working on the TPP. We have history as our guide as to what they will do to what is left of middle class wage earning jobs in America.

By all means go after Romney for killing jobs. I want Obama over Romney. I just don't look at Obama with rose colored glasses like soo many seem to do. He's not a liberal. He;s not a Progressive.

He's an Eisenhower Republican just like Bill Clinton.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
3. Speaking of
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 11:38 AM
Jun 2012
I'm not saying what Romney and Bain did is moral or ethical. I'm saying they did what was allowed of them to do by the system that they paid for.

For Obama to attack him on those issues is kind of hypocritical since he's passed the trade deal with Columbia, Panama and South Korea and is working on the TPP. We have history as our guide as to what they will do to what is left of middle class wage earning jobs in America.

By all means go after Romney for killing jobs. I want Obama over Romney. I just don't look at Obama with rose colored glasses like soo many seem to do. He's not a liberal. He;s not a Progressive.

...of "nonsense." Again, Obama's policies have nothing to do with Romney's actions. So your false equivalencies about hypocrisy and your contradictory statements are utter nonsense.

 

matmar

(593 posts)
5. No.
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 12:03 PM
Jun 2012

"Obama's policies have nothing to do with Romney's actions"......No they don't but it is trade deals like NAFTA and the pending TPP that allow the Romneys of the world to gain their wealth and leaving the American middle class with "do you want fries with that"? jobs.

It's not an equivalency argument. It's a "this is what happens when you pass crappy trade deals that kill the middle class" argument.

Is Obama better than Romney? Yes.

What's Obama's position on Social Security? I've heard him say he supports lifting the cap. Will he advocate vociferously for that or will he cave to something called Simpson-Bowles (a conclusion that is strictly Simpson and Bowles because the commission didn't come to an agreement)

FarLeftFist

(6,161 posts)
4. Oh, thank you for letting us go after Romney for killing jobs.
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 11:48 AM
Jun 2012

"He's not a Progressive"

Why because he didn't round up citizens in internment camps & cause the nuclear apocalypse of 2 foreign cities?

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