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Democrats would be smart to embrace Keith Ellison as DNC chairMatthew Yglesias
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Keith Ellison is the right choice for unity
Sanders anchored what amounts to a negative partisanship mass movement on an unprecedented scale. His campaign grew far larger than Deans ever did, despite even less support from party insiders. If that mass of people remains where they were throughout the 2016 election, theyll be a potentially dangerous force that ends up undermining progressive politics despite itself. But if they can be brought inside the Democratic Party and turned into the kind of party regulars who vote in midterms and volunteer for local races, theyd be an extraordinarily powerful force.
Since what they want is, in some ways, different from what existing party leaders want, theyd also be a bit of a disruptive force. But ultimately both young insurgents and older establishmentarians are going to be happier with that disruptive force taking place inside the context of a party politics paradigm rather than on the sidelines.
There are, of course, a lot of objections you can raise to Ellison. And in the spirit of a political campaign, theyve pretty much all been thrown at him.
People who think its obviously absurd to believe that a black Muslim from Minneapolis can help Democrats win white working class votes in the Midwest would probably be fascinated to hear about what a black guy from Chicago named Barack Hussein Obama managed to pull off.
To make a comeback, an out-of-power party needs a dose of good luck, unity of purpose, and to recruit strong candidates for midterm elections. Luck is in Gods hands, Ellison is the best choice to deliver unity, and recruiting a big-name candidate for what will unquestionably be a tough race would be an excellent down payment on the broader recruiting challenge. Given where the 2016 campaign ended up, Sanders and his faction of the Democratic Party clearly have something coming to them. A well-qualified Sanders ally who is willing to make it a full-time job at the head of the DNC is a reasonable ask, and if Democrats are smart theyll give it to him.
Renew Deal
(81,858 posts)And it's working.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)So sad people keep attaching him to Sanders like is being done here. He isn't even allowed to be his own person.
"Keith Ellison is the right choice for unity"
Not with this ill informed tactic. Like with the Sanders campaign, his own supporters are becoming his worst enemy.
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)quite the opposite.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)The Democrats desperately need torture apologists, and Dershowitz is one of the best!
Job 1 for Democrats in the next election cycle is to get disenfranchised voters motivated and on the voting rolls. Republican efforts to deny the vote to millions of citizens were wildly successful, through a combination of induced apathy and systematic denials of the vote. More voters means more Democrats elected to office.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)GOP holds the Executive Office
GOP holds the Majority of House Seats
GOP holds the Majority of Senate Seats
GOP holds the Majority of State Legislature Seats
GOP holds the Majority of State Executive offices
and soon the GOP will stack the Supreme Court with Conservative Judges
Lets face it folks the Dems are down on their knees begging to not become extinct
Me.
(35,454 posts)If they wanted to be inside the party wouldn't they already be there? How many resources are going to be used to drag people somewhere they might not want to be?
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)BainsBane
(53,032 posts)Since they voted for a pro-business, ultra right wing white supremacist. But you keep worring about neoliberalism. Someone has to distract from the fascists about to enter the White House.
And none of you complained about neoliberalism when the white middle class benefited from it. What you actual lament is the decline of American empire. Neoliberalism was fine and good as long as it brought relative prosperity for white men in the US on the backs of laborers around the world. It's the decline of the US as the core of a world system of capitalist exploitation that has caused resentment in the US. If people admitted that they feel entitled to live off the labor of the global South, that would at least be honest. But the fact that the time they long to return to is the height of that exploitation exposes as fraudulent the discourse of supposed opposition to neoliberalism.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)We always complained about the shrinking middle class, and the class warfare being conducted by Moneyed Corporations and the Wealthy Elite.
Its just that the Dem Leadership thought we would always continue believing in their BS and voting against are own best interest as they promised one thing to the Working Class and another to the Donor Class
I guess enough folks figured out No One was actually defending / standing up for the working class and just forgot to show up
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)Were you complaining about it in the 1950s or 1970s? The American middle class grew while the US enforced neoliberal policies around the globe--through the military or the CIA. Yet that is the time Bernie says he wants to return to. So exactly how long have you been complaining? And if the concern is neoliberalism rather than the decline of American empire, why do you situate it with a shrinking (white) middle class in the US?
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)Clintons reversed their campaign promise to the Rust Belt workers 24 years ago
What did you expect to happen
Like I said about that Kool aid thing
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)and your point is factually false. The only group for whom incomes have declined is white men in the US, but then the rest of us aren't important enough to even consider.
HILLARY Clinton didn't run for office 24 years ago. How is that you can't see her as other than an appendage of her husband?
History is not Kool-Aid. It doesn't hurt to read it either. It helps one to think beyond facile talking points.
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)And restoring the voting rights of millions of Democrats denied their constitutional rights. People here, however, seem far less interested in that.
NobodyHere
(2,810 posts)BainsBane
(53,032 posts)But he did arrange a talk by Elijah Mohammed and praised him.
NobodyHere
(2,810 posts)BainsBane
(53,032 posts)Isn't categorized as a hate group but the allegations against Ellison are not that he was a member.
NobodyHere
(2,810 posts)That makes him a hater in my book
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)They have done a lot of good for black people, men in particular, over the decades. The antisemitism is unfortunate, a complete waste of energy and indeed hateful. But remember that Malcom X was a key figure in the Nation of Islam and is still regarding as an important leader in the history of civil rights.
NobodyHere
(2,810 posts)They are a hate group
ck4829
(35,075 posts)I wonder if this extends to other things... Is Maajid Nawaz still an Islamist terrorist? Is Derek Black still a white nationalist?
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)It's naive to think this wouldn't be a serious problem for Democrats if Ellison became DNC chair.
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)I seriously doubt that you would be equally sanguine with posting "The misogyny is unfortunate."
I abhor bigotry and its enablers, in any fashion; be it directed at women, religious minorities, or any of an innumerable number of groups of people who have suffered from it.
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)You took my statement out of context. Imagine if had used the kind of hateful slur toward Jews that you have consistently defended about women? Instead, you object to my statement calling the antisemitism hateful, seemingly because I pointed out that NOI also does some good.
You seem to want to pick a fight for the sake if it. Find someone else, like the people saying none of it matters or that the whole thing is nothing but dirty tactics by Obama.
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)(the sadly shrinking number of) Northern Virginia abortion providers for decades. In all that time, I've managed to restrain myself from hurling a hateful slur toward any of the women I was shielding.
One can be an ardent defender of the FirstAmendment without being an asshole.
ck4829
(35,075 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)barbtries
(28,793 posts)a proven winner. If Ellison will pursue that, fine.
Keith for DNC
We must also reclaim our history as the Party that stands with working people. We can start with our platform the most
progressive in history which calls for a living wage, requiring the wealthy and corporations to pay their fair share, and comprehensive immigration reform. We will never stop fighting attempts by the Trump White House (which lost the popular vote by 2.8 million votes), Republican-controlled states, and special interests to roll back affordable health care, worker wages and protections, and a womans right to choose. We will stand up for people of all races, religions, genders and sexual orientations to foster a more inclusive, fair society and create an economy that works for all Americans.
Our Party is right. Our values are just. Our future depends on grassroots organizing. When Democrats champion the challenges of working families, voters will have a reason to show up at the polls in 2017, 2018 and beyond.
barbtries
(28,793 posts)it's number 1 on my list of must haves.
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)It's an organizational position. The platform can't be changed until the next convention. Is he going to wait four years to start?
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,972 posts)BainsBane
(53,032 posts)Harrison, for example, wants to focus on strengthening state parties.
ck4829
(35,075 posts)Gothmog
(145,225 posts)As a Jewish voter, I place a great deal of trust in the ADL http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/anti-defamation-league-keith-ellison-concerns-dnc-232071
In particular, the ADL, in a statement from CEO Jonathan Greenblatt, points to Ellison saying in a 2010 speech in reference to Israel that "The United States foreign policy in the Middle East is governed by what is good or bad through a country of 7 million people. A region of 350 million all turns on a country of 7 million. Does that make sense? Is that logic? Right? When the Americans who trace their roots back to those 350 million get involved, everything changes."
"New information recently has come to light that raises serious concerns about whether Rep. Ellison faithfully could represent the Democratic Partys traditional support for a strong and secure Israel," Greenblatt said in a statement.
Greenblatt went on to say that "Rep. Ellisons remarks are both deeply disturbing and disqualifying."
"His words imply that U.S. foreign policy is based on religiously or national origin-based special interests rather than simply on Americas best interests," Greenblatt said. "Additionally, whether intentional or not, his words raise the specter of age-old stereotypes about Jewish control of our government, a poisonous myth that may persist in parts of the world where intolerance thrives, but that has no place in open societies like the U.S. These comments sharply contrast with the Democratic National Committee platform position, which states: A strong and secure Israel is vital to the United States because we share overarching strategic interests and the common values of democracy, equality, tolerance, and pluralism.
Me.
(35,454 posts)I think the head of the DNC needs to be focused on this country and our party and leave Israel to take care of itself. I wouldn't support a smidge of anti-Semitism in our party but think we need to remember that not all Jewish people are Israeli and not all Israelis are Jewish.
Gothmog
(145,225 posts)Me.
(35,454 posts)" the specter of age-old stereotypes about Jewish control of our government, a poisonous myth that may persist in parts of the world" raise its ugly head in our party, it would be incumbent on the head of the DNC to stand firmly against it and push back. The only thing I'm saying is our focus needs to be on the DNC and the absolute need to get itself sorted and other parties and countries need to look after themselves in the meantime.
Gothmog
(145,225 posts)One of the major jobs of the DNC chair is to fund raise and Saban is one of the top Democratic fundraisers.
http://jewishweek.timesofisrael.com/keith-ellison-would-be-a-disaster-as-dnc-head-haim-saban-says/
The scathing broadside delivered Friday by the Israeli-American entertainment mogul from the floor of the annual Saban Forum, an event he funds bringing together U.S. and Israeli leaders and influencers, underscores the degree to which the Minnesota congressmans campaign for DNC chief could erode relations between establishment Jewish groups and the party.....
Sabans broadside farther reaching, in calling him an anti-Semite, than even some of Ellisons conservative critics is significant because of the moguls relationship to the DNC.
Saban is better known as a leading backer of Hillary Clinton, the Democratic presidential nominee defeated last month by Donald Trump, but he has also been a major donor to the party. In 2002, he paid $7 million toward the building of the then-new DNC headquarters here.
Jewish voters are an imporant part of the Democratic base and alienating a major funding source such as Saban does not make sense.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)BainsBane
(53,032 posts)Which makes sense given the high homicide rate in Minneapolis.