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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGOP votes to Ban CBO from calculating effect of Obamacare repeal on budget
The move, shrouded in a rules package referred to as House Resolution 5, (https://policy.house.gov/legislative/bills/hres-adopting-rules-115th-congress) is an attempt to block any eventual fallout from Americans who will watch their healthcare stolen and their deficit explode in an act of political revenge meant solely to rob President Obama of his legacy. An astounded Rep. Keith Ellison exposed the shady maneuver in a tweet that promptly went viral.
https://twitter.com/keithellison/status/816967979757932544?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Volaris
(10,270 posts)If they knew their repeal and 'replace' plan would actually work, they would be screaming the numbers in front of every tv camera in the Country.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)greymattermom
(5,754 posts)and it goes up a lot, what would be the explanation? Increased spending or reduced taxes. What else is there?
groundloop
(11,519 posts)Stuart G
(38,423 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)RKP5637
(67,108 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,972 posts)n2doc
(47,953 posts)And then vote to demolish medicaid and medicare. And steal what is left of social security.
underpants
(182,802 posts)Just
Snarkoleptic
(5,997 posts)It needs a hashtag...
#OstrichCongress
They stick their heads in the sand on-
CBO scoring of their pet projects
NASA satelites being used to re-re-reconfirm that climate change is a reality.
etc.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,972 posts)#HeadUpAssCongress
KeyLimeDem
(48 posts)The initials are HUAC, history repeats itself.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)Would be an understatement.
libtodeath
(2,888 posts)THIS is what the fucking simpletons in this country have bought in the voting booth the last half decade.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)This has always been a problem for them. Even during the first ACA debates, the CBO kept pointing out that the ACA would save the federal government money. The GOP can't get around this and most of their plans may work out well for individuals, states, and the insurance companies, but they typically cost the feds a lot of money. (Oh, and the federal government pays for a lot of health insurance one way or another). So they can't have the CBO shooting down their plans by pointing out how expensive they will be.
machoneman
(4,007 posts)the effects and let the Republiscums try to do anything about it? I mean, what would be the penalty if they did so? And if the CBO's lawyers file suit to block this rule since one can't isolate one narrow rule to the detroment of one group (the ACA being the group)? I forget what this is called so maybe someone can quote it.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)You have to have authorization to spend money when you are involved in federal spending. If the CBO spent any money generating the analysis, much less publishing it, they could actually be in violation of the law.
Va Lefty
(6,252 posts)alarimer
(16,245 posts)Climate change- get rid of the satellites that measure temperature and defund the agencies that study the environment
Gun deaths- just not allow the CDC to study it
Etc., etc.
If it tells them something that contradicts their worldview (or even has the potential to), just get rid of it. It's like ignoring your high blood pressure readings even though it will kill you eventually.
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)That way they can keep saying it has no medicinal value!
spanone
(135,831 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)No shame. No remorse. Enjoys causing chaos and worse.
lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)It's like they know the country is not paying attention.
Not a bang but a whimper.
Botany
(70,504 posts)We are really fucked.
treestar
(82,383 posts)And don't want the people to know? Could they be more obvious?
2naSalit
(86,600 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)to "The American People?"
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Thankful for the intertubez, but we need more.
Kills me...we liberals and progressives knew who they are long ago. Watching what we knew come to manifest now is an Unsatisfying "We warned you".
Their depravity is a bottomless pit.
2naSalit
(86,600 posts)no_hypocrisy
(46,100 posts)on the national budget. When Obama recognized those costs and added them to the budget, republicans immediately claimed that Obama increased the federal deficit by at least $3 trillion.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,315 posts)The world is waiting for the grown-ups to take charge. If they behave this badly, will the midterm backlash be so big it could beat the gerrymandering and get the Democrats back in the House?
bucolic_frolic
(43,161 posts)DELUSIONAL
Hiding in the sand will not change reality
karynnj
(59,503 posts)They then need to issue a discharge petition to force the bill out of committee for a vote. This is the only way the Minority in the House can force a bill. It would be great for Keith Ellison to do this.
Here, you have something that SHOULD be embarrassing to the Republicans and there may be enough who would sign for discharge and even vote for it.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)Hitler is smiling from Hell.
Stunning. This is a White Nationalist/Corporate coup underway.
bucolic_frolic
(43,161 posts)Soon it will be illegal to publicize anything
then we won't know what they're spending, we won't know they've
stolen all the loot and bankrupted the Federal Government
IronLionZion
(45,441 posts)and they block FDA/USDA from collecting data on things like antibiotic resistance.
They don't want us to know some things so they ban agencies from collecting the data. They're deeply worried about what is in the data and know they are wrong. They know information can influence public opinion and increase pressure from their constituents.
Cowards
world wide wally
(21,743 posts)Dems need to make the loudest noise possible about all of this.
Flood those stupid cable news shows with spokespeople 24/7
Tweet, make speeches, TALK about it constantly...everywhere.
SnowCritter
(810 posts)Don't know how much good it will do - but Representative Emmer is a bit more reasonable than the nutcase he replaced.
alfredo
(60,071 posts)From the house rules package
Staff Deposition Authority Carries forward and modifies provisions from the 114th Congress to provide the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and each standing committee of the 115th Congress the authority to order the taking of a deposition by a member of committee counsel of such committee.
Independent Payment Advisory Board Carries forward a provision from the 113th and 114th Congresses that turns off a provision contained in the Affordable Care Act, which limits the ability of the House to determine the method of consideration for a recommendation from the Independent Payment Advisory Board or to repeal the provision in its entirety.
This is the only place the ACA was mentioned. I want to use the CBO ban and want to be able to back it up.
Stonepounder
(4,033 posts)Constitution. They don't care about anyone but themselves and their wealthy masters. They want to act in secret, and make us a third-world country with serfs who live short and brutal lives, toiling 12-14 hrs a day to earn enough in 'scrip' to buy enough food at the company store to live another day. When they can no longer work, if they don't have a family to help them, they just die.
The wealthy, OTOH, live in luxury and never have to even come in contact with their serfs. Screw noblesse oblige, the serfs aren't really humans, they are just another work animal. And they don't care about climate change or lead poisoned water, because it won't affect them. Maybe a future generation, but hey, they only look forward to the end of this quarter to see how much richer they have become.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,855 posts)what they can no longer see doesn't exist. Kind of like a child under the age of two.