Josh Marshall - "Mind-Boggling". And to me, that is an understatement.

[NRaleighLiberal]

Any of us who has been in a state of disbelief since election day....this is just incomprehensible.


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/mind-boggling--2

By JOSH MARSHALL Published JANUARY 6, 2017, 4:21 PM EDT

Set aside all Donald Trump's nonsense about disbelieving the intelligence agencies and insisting there's no evidence against Russia*. Set aside his amazingly public spat with those agencies. Set aside just why Russia did this. There's the simple fact that just two weeks before a new President is sworn into office, the country's intelligence agencies are publicly releasing a report claiming that the United States' great 20th century rival, Russia, conspired to assist in that new President's election. Step back and just absorb that. That is simply mind-boggling. Who could have imagined such a thing, such a confluence of events - the original act, the IC's claims - would ever happen. Here's the report.

[* ed.note: There's nothing crazy about being skeptical or disbelieving intelligence analyses. What's clear in this case is that if there are good reasons for skepticism, they have nothing to do with why Trump insists it's not true.]

[Kahuna7]

1. What did Comey know and when did he know it? nt

[mopinko]

2. and we saw it all fall in place here,

the trolls, the hack, remember the debates about rt? and who they duped into joining them?

like a crack in the fucking matrix.

[elmac]

7. I bet that RT

intentionally hired Big Ed, Hartman and whoever else just to keep them rained in, on a short leash. It certainly wasn't for ratings.

[mopinko]

17. it was for the fud.

both have bashed obama "from the left"
feeds the- they are both the same model.
they set them up to mirror the rw fringe, and discredit the left.

[Cracklin Charlie]

3. Please explain to me...

Why, in a nation of laws, there seems to be exactly zero things that can be done to remedy the situation that now presents itself.

Nothing? Really?

[TomCADem]

6. A Lot Can Be Done...

Congress could hold hearings and possibly even impeach if Trump were to cover up the interference. The media could cover this appropriately which would raise awareness and pressure. Also, if all else fails, vote out the Republicans in 2018.

However, if all this fails, it is because we are all generally cool with the hijacking of the Presidency.

[elmac]

8. a president Pence would be much worse

the only fix would be to null & void the election and that will not happen.

[nini]

12. The ONLY reason Pence is somewhat better is he won't be pissing off China on twitter

..and God knows what else he'd do on twitter. His damage will be more stripping our rights away than world wars.

Though neither of them is fun.

[TexasBushwhacker]

19. I would be less worried about Pence starting WWIII

I don't think he's quite so eager to nuke our enemies. But I agree that on most other things he's as bad or worse.

[Fast Walker 52]

24. he's a Christian fanatic-- he might want to bring on the rapture

:O

[TexasBushwhacker]

29. True. I have a distant cousin who wrote a book

called "Forcing God's Hand: Why Millions Pray for a Quick Rapture ... and Destruction of Planet Earth"

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1590080157/ref=cm_cr_arp_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8

[Fast Walker 52]

34. uh, er....

[oldtime dfl_er]

30. This is NOT a reason

to not do the right thing and IMPEACH the orange monster.

(sorry, this was mean to be in response to the post about "A President Pence would be worse&quot

[dhill926]

10. which assumes repubs would lead the way...

which of course ain't gonna happen. this is a power grab, pure and simple...

[TomCADem]

15. Yes. At a certain point, elected leaders, media...

...and most importantly voters need to perform their roles. Otherwise, we quietly accept subservience.

[world wide wally]

16. We then become the SSA

Subservient States of America

Happy yet Trump lovers?

[Cosmocat]

21. Your last line is the simple, ugly ass truth

NONE of this shit wasn't glaringly apparent on November 7th, but in all of their mindboggling fuckwadery 1/3 of the country ran over 95 year old ladies getting to the booth to vote for Trump and republican asshats, 1/3 of the country decided that it wasn't all that important and didn't bother to show up to vote at all, and our 1/3 tried to the heavy lifting off getting past the fuckwittery of republicans and half assedness of the people who decided it wasn't important enough to actually get out to vote.

or, as you accurately note - this country is just fucking fine with this ...

[Cracklin Charlie]

26. In any case,

It seems that we will be forced to watch the train wreck.

[tomp]

36. if trump was not fairly elected....

...then neither was pence, who obviously become president if trump is impeached/convicted. None of his cabinet should be there, none of his appointees or nominations, no executive orders, etc.

impeachment is not the answer to unfair election. fair election is the answer. and there is, apparently, as the initial post suggested, no answer to this, at least currently.

[SammyWinstonJack]

9. +1000000!

[longship]

4. Josh Marshall is a very good guy.

Talking Points Memo is one of my daily must visits.

on edit: Link, site name corrected.

[NRaleighLiberal]

5. one of the top news sources since the miselection...and a regular read for me for years.

[Fast Walker 52]

22. yep, same here-- a very sane voice

[Va Lefty]

11. Agree an excellent source for info!!

[AngryAmish]

13. His porn tweet was quite funny.

[calimary]

31. I find him to be credible, too.

Now that NBC is starting to be overrun by ex-Pox'ers (first Megyn Kelly. Then Greta Van Susteren. Fuck! Who's next up?) how long before we have a liberal network we can truly count on? Or is the whole idea on the endangered species list now?

[BSdetect]

14. They will do nothing to stop drumph.

They ought to have a word in his ear right now and tell him he will be tried for treason, unless he resigns his position.

That will never happen though it should.

He is clearly a nutjob but so are they.

By "they" I refer to the GOP members. A sad and deluded bunch of dipshits.

[spanone]

18. K&R...

[keithbvadu2]

20. Trump and the intel community on Russia

Last edited Sat Jan 7, 2017, 01:41 PM - Edit history (1)

"... retired Marine Corps Gen. James N. Mattis said in May 2015 that among world threats “in the near term, I think the most dangerous might be Russia.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/6/donald-trump-james-mattis-differ-on-vladimir-putin/

---------------

Trump supporters celebrate their victory.

"It turns out that United Russia won the elections in America," Viktor Nazarov, the governor of Omsk, Russia, declared in a radio interview.

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/news/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/news/world/make-russia-great-again-if-trump-lifts-sanctions-putin-could-finally-establish-his-country-as-an-equal-to-u-s&pubdate=2016-12-03



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Our intel agencies are speaking out against the Donald's Russian pals so he
plans to "pare" them back.

(It's not the Russians he wants to pare back.)

Donald Trump Plans to Pare Back Top U.S. Spy Agency

nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/01/donald-trump-plans-to-slim-down-top-u-s-spy-agency.html

http://tinyurl.com/gqz458q

[LaydeeBug]

23. Quite the Friday News Dump nt

[Ilsa]

25. Think about how many Cold War spies and soldiers

are having to absorb this BS.

[marybourg]

27. It seems that our own FBI head

was on the same page as the Russians. Coincidence?

[uponit7771]

33. +1

[Cha]

32. K

[Eyeball_Kid]

35. Woolsey Quit. Mattis needs to withdraw his nomination.

Trumpy's cabinet nominations-- those who have a real stake in the preservation of the nation-- should all abandon ship NOW, before they get sullied with Trumpy's Death Spiral of craziness and idiocy. This is Flynn and Bannon's show. Flynn is whispering in Trumpy's left ear; Bannon in Trumpy's right ear. Everything else is getting drowned out. The sooner that the patriots realize this, the better.

[Scurrilous]

37. K & R

[KittyWampus]

38. And now imagine if the candidate who'd won with Russia conspiring to help had been a Democrat.

[keithbvadu2]

39. "with Russia conspiring to help"

"It turns out that United Russia won the elections in America," Viktor Nazarov, the governor of Omsk, Russia, declared in a radio interview.
.
.

[TNNurse]

40. Well, Trump said it did not affect the result

so what is the big deal? He really is the most ignorant person who has ever been elected to anything and there is some really stiff competition for that.

I need Keith Olberman every night on TV to say "And the worst person in the world today is still Donald Trump"

[WiffenPoof]

41. Do You Need To Know Anymore Than This:

After Trump's Intel briefing and with everything else falling apart, what does Trump tweet?

...sometHing about Arnold and the ratings of The Apprentice. Just think about that.