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bigtree

(85,996 posts)
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 02:21 PM Jan 2017

DOJ Inspector General to review actions by FBI and DOJ officials in lead up to the 2016 election

Josh Marshall ?@joshtpm 4m4 minutes ago
BREAKING: DOJ Inspector General to review actions by FBI and DOJ officials in lead up to the 2016 election. [link:http://|http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/breaking--107]

JM:

A few points are worth noting about this.

Inspectors General are not political appointees. And they are independent of political appointees. So Donald Trump or Jeff Sessions cannot just shut this down when they get into office. They can try of course. But the statutes governing IGs specifically prevent this.

The final result in the 2016 election was extraordinarily close. Less than a hundred thousand votes made the difference in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania together. That's close enough that lots of things made the final difference. But there's a lot of evidence that Comey's letter changed the outcome of the election - evidence borne out by a close analysis of the public polls and the private polls of both campaigns. It is a big, big deal...


NBC Nightly News ?@NBCNightlyNews 1m1 minute ago
MORE: US Justice Dept. Inspector General Michael E. Horowitz explains what he will be looking into during the review.


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DOJ Inspector General to review actions by FBI and DOJ officials in lead up to the 2016 election (Original Post) bigtree Jan 2017 OP
That covers a lot of ground HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #1
yes bigtree Jan 2017 #2
I wonder True Dough Jan 2017 #3
and Trump will replace him? bigtree Jan 2017 #7
You're right, we don't want a Trump hand-picked director of the FBI True Dough Jan 2017 #8
The best news is that it can't be shut down by the idiots who will be in charge soon. shraby Jan 2017 #4
I can just imagine Trump fuming about that bigtree Jan 2017 #9
"Members of the public." procon Jan 2017 #5
yep bigtree Jan 2017 #10
About time!! cornball 24 Jan 2017 #6
a little late bigtree Jan 2017 #11
Looks to me like Drumpf CAN get rid of the the Inspector General in pretty sort order? ncgrits Jan 2017 #12
Comey is pond scum and lacks any professional or other ethics Gothmog Jan 2017 #13
kick bigtree Jan 2017 #14
Good luck with that. lpbk2713 Jan 2017 #15
It will not be easy for trump to stop this investigation Gothmog Jan 2017 #16

True Dough

(17,304 posts)
3. I wonder
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 02:31 PM
Jan 2017

What if Comey is found to be complicit in meddling in the election through the decisions he made on the Hillary emails? What could the punishment be? The obvious is that he will be relieved of his duties as director of the FBI, but could there be any other repercussions? Any criminal charges?

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
7. and Trump will replace him?
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 02:54 PM
Jan 2017

...not the best scenario.

Better that this serves as a shot across the bow, complete with lower-level shakeups - thinking of those in the FBI who mainstreamed conclusions/allegations within the agency contained in that anti-Clinton book (can't recall the name). There's definitely a corrosive element which likely didn't originate with Comey. It's still not fine and good that he allowed or encouraged that anti-Clinton element, so, we'll see.

At any rate, this investigation has the potential, at the very least, to serve notice that these actions won't be allowed to occur with impunity.

True Dough

(17,304 posts)
8. You're right, we don't want a Trump hand-picked director of the FBI
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 03:01 PM
Jan 2017

But the repercussions that you're suggestion are hardly going to be a deterrent. If that's the extent of the blowback, then we can expect something similar to happen again in the future.

It's a real catch-22.

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
9. I can just imagine Trump fuming about that
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 03:17 PM
Jan 2017

...I'll bet he harasses the IG, though, to the point of censure.

procon

(15,805 posts)
5. "Members of the public."
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 02:34 PM
Jan 2017

"Horowitz said he was initiating the inquiry "in response to requests from numerous Chairmen and Ranking Members of Congressional oversight committees, various organizations, and members of the public."

That's us peons; we must have made a pretty big stink!

ncgrits

(916 posts)
12. Looks to me like Drumpf CAN get rid of the the Inspector General in pretty sort order?
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 03:58 PM
Jan 2017

"An Inspector General may be removed from office by the President. If an Inspector General is removed from office or is transferred to another position or location within an establishment, the President shall communicate in writing the reasons for any such removal or transfer to both Houses of Congress, not later than 30 days before the removal or transfer. Nothing in this subsection shall prohibit a personnel action otherwise authorized by law, other than transfer or removal."

From here:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode05a/usc_sec_05a_01000003----000-.html


I hope somebody here knows more about it than I do (THAT shouldn't be too hard!) and can reassure us that Horowitz will be able proceed past 1/20. . . .

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
15. Good luck with that.
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 07:53 PM
Jan 2017



Given the fact that the subjects of the review are pros at this sort of thing it's
likely the first thing they did was to be sure they covered their own asses.

Gothmog

(145,225 posts)
16. It will not be easy for trump to stop this investigation
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 09:18 PM
Jan 2017

I saw this on the Washington Post https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/01/12/there-will-be-an-investigation-of-james-comeys-conduct-we-might-get-some-accountability-after-all/?utm_term=.25630ca46fd1

UPDATE: Amy Jeffress, a former senior Justice Department official and currently an attorney at Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer, emails more detail on whether this probe could be closed down under Trump:

The Inspector General Act authorizes the Attorney General to interfere with an IG investigation under certain exceptional circumstances, one of which relates to intelligence matters, which arguably could apply here. But the Attorney General would have to find that action is “necessary to prevent the significant impairment to the national interests of the United States” (and there are congressional notification requirements as well). I can’t think of any precedent for taking this step, and politically it would be hugely controversial, and therefore unlikely.

It may be harder that we think for Trump to block this investigation

BTW Comey is pond scum
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