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global1

(25,242 posts)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 04:22 AM Jan 2017

Has It Been Verified That Jeb Bush Was The One That Hired This Firm To Do Opposition Research....

on Trump during the primary? Somewhere I thought I read this - but I haven't heard the MSM reporting this.

If it was Jeb - it's interesting that this dossier will cast a shadow over Trump's presidency.

I also find it interesting that the other thing I'm hearing is that somewhere along the line - the Dems (and I surmising the Hillary campaign) was tossed this ball and ran with it during their campaign. Has that been verified?

If so - how did the Hillary campaign get their hands on this? Did Jeb's people sell it to them to recover their costs? or was Jeb
so angry at the treatment he got from Trump during the primary - that he just turned this over to the Dems - just to do in Trump?

Can someone educate me on this origin of this dossier and its transfer from Repug to Dem?

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octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
1. I read in a number of different
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 04:32 AM
Jan 2017

articles it was a Jeb Bush super PAC and when Jeb dropped out of the race it was handed over to Hillary's team. I believe the ex- intelligence agent Steele said he was hired by the super PAC to dig up info on Trump.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
2. It hasn't been "verified" but remember Poppy was once Director of CIA and I'm sure after what was
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 05:12 AM
Jan 2017

...said by Comrade Trumpski about their beloved son Jeb during the campaign and the desire to not have George W. go down in history as worst President ever, it wouldn't surprise me and wouldn't blame them if they did.

Regardless of who did it, they are friggin heroes and the prize for greatest patriot in intelligence community will go to the person who releases the golden shower tapes and other tapes and photos and audio and video of Trump campaign officials and even Trump himself colluding with the Russians.

7...6...5...4...3...2...1.....

7 more days....will someone be brave enough to do it and prevent this piece of shit from tainting the Oval Office? Or are they too afraid of civil unrest and desire for control that they just wait till they have sworn him in and then impeach him and have President Pence???

Was that the plan all along? Is that why we saw the GOP from Reince Priebus, Mcconnell, to Chaffetz to Paul Ryan suddenly all get in line? Or was it because there is Kompromat on them too?

It boggles the mind to be finding ourselves and our nation here....

But I am waiting for the "real" leak that is coming beyond the "Golden Showers"... And you know they are there and coming...

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
3. But why wait until NOW? Things are at a point of genuine Constitutional crisis.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 05:32 AM
Jan 2017

And who the hell leaked Steele's name to the press? He's going to end up dead.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
4. I keep trying to figure out what Obama, the intelligence community, and frankly anyone who is aware
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 05:58 AM
Jan 2017

...of what threat Trump poses and what he has done including and most importantly collusion with the Russians and his debt and who he is indebted to and why - what they must be trying with the greatest resources and constitutional minds and intelligence to figure out how to stop this mad man and simultaneously avoiding a civil war and unrest from the crazed deplorables and frankly ignorant public that buys into the propaganda spewed by Trump and his team.

I might be crazy and delusional, but I have to believe that behind the scenes they have been very diligently collecting info (including with the assistance of NATO and other allies intelligence resources) to also set up a plan behind the scenes to "out" or trap him and set-him up for arrest or impeachment or both for crimes against the United States. It's quite possible they had to gather the necessary info (remember even the constitution clearly states "2 witnesses" to be guilty of treason and they are dotting the "i's" and crossing the "t's".). And perhaps doing it at the end was part of the plan and even the leaking of info in last week. Even the fact that first we had the intelligence briefing coming to the President-elect on Friday, then catching him off-guard and releasing the public document earlier than he expected and letting him lie before they released it. Maybe it was deliberate to say nothing about the "addendum". - and then to do so.

I predict that the video and audio and much more is coming soon of some very big info. Deliberately. But carefully. And to hoist this traitor on his own petard.

Spy games. Wouldn't want to play them, especially when I am the target. And meanwhile, regarding Christopher Steele: ironically, he may be safer now that his name is publicly known versus before it was known. If something happens to him, it will only hurt those that wish to silence or punish him. He likely still needs to be careful, but that is not unbeknownst to those who participate in the spy world and do this kind of work for a living. Mr Steele knew the risks when he joined MI6 and also in the work he does and even taking the assignment to investigate and create a dossier on Trump.

I say stayed tuned... The spy games have only begun. And Comrade Trumpski has made some very big enemies in that arena.


global1

(25,242 posts)
9. I'd Like To Think What You Are Saying Is True And That Trump Will Ultimately Be Taken Down By.....
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 10:19 AM
Jan 2017

his past deeds that have been outlined in this dossier - but here is where this breaks down for me. Since winning back in Nov and basically bringing with him - the Senate & the House (the trifecta) and with the ability to control SCOTUS for decades going forward - the Repugs have rallied around Trump. He's even got Rence Priebus as part of his people now.

Since winning Trump's been surrounded by Repugs - Pence and even McConnell & Ryan - and you could go down the list of Repugs and note those Repugs that have rallied around Trump. Most all except maybe McCain & Lindsay G.

During this period since the election till now - Trump has been privy to the strategies of the Repug Party and has learned things about the Party that I'm sure even surprised him. Maybe things like how they use or used voter suppression tactics & maybe even how they might have altered votes in some of the key states - through well placed people or manipulation of voting machines.

Trump is no dummy. If Trump goes down - he will take the Party with him. Even if he didn't learn any Party secrets in the process - it's not beyond Trump to make things up (lie) to bring down the Party with him. This is what he holds over the Party now. And maybe even the Russians have some dirt on the Party. Hell - we did hear that the Russians also hacked the RNC - but didn't use the info they gleaned against them (YET).

So this is why I think we're stuck with Trump for at least 4 years. They won't even try to impeach him during his term. Because if Trump goes down - so does the whole Repug Party. He'll take them with him.

I'm curious to hear your reaction to my comments above.

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
7. Poppy also likes Bill A LOT since they traveled together
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 08:45 AM
Jan 2017

Jenna Bush said a few years ago her grandfather says Bill is his favorite son.

Jenna, Little Barbara, and their mother are all liberals.

They all hate Trump.

 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
6. Jeb and Hillary had the dossier
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 07:55 AM
Jan 2017

Jeb denied it, Hillary said nothing. They got it by paying for it. Who do you think released the dossier to the press?

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
8. Who knows who leaked the dossier to the press...
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 09:29 AM
Jan 2017

It was attached with the intelligence briefing to members of congress, Obama and Comrade Trumpski. It could be someone on their staffs. Lindsay Graham. John McCain. MI6. Christopher Steele. Friends and associates of his.

The list is endless. He has more enemies than he can imagine. The man is playing the spy game and declared war on democracy and the intelligence community. Hell, it could be Melania who grabbed it off his nightstand and sent it to the press as he tweets furiously about Meryl Streep and declares how great he is. Maybe she has gotten tired of all she has put up with, especially regarding his cheating while she was pregnant and since throughout their marriage. Who know what he likes to do to her. There is a very dark sadistic side to him that has no respect for women.

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