Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:38 PM
stevenleser (32,886 posts)
The oddest thing to me about the CD National Guard Commander being removed is...
... there is no new Commander named. Someone on FB asked me if there will be a change of command ceremony.
The simple answer is there can't be one. Why? Because there is no new commander named. That's what you have at a change of command ceremony. The outgoing commander ceremoniously hands a flag to the new commander and the deed is done. We have no new commander here. The deputy will serve as acting commander simply on the basis of the chain of command, not because they have been named. https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/commanding-general-of-dc-national-guard-to-be-removed-from-post/2017/01/13/725a0438-d99e-11e6-b8b2-cb5164beba6b_story.html
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stevenleser | Jan 2017 | OP |
elleng | Jan 2017 | #1 | |
pkdu | Jan 2017 | #2 | |
randr | Jan 2017 | #3 | |
haele | Jan 2017 | #7 | |
n2doc | Jan 2017 | #4 | |
onenote | Jan 2017 | #9 | |
2naSalit | Jan 2017 | #11 | |
sarah FAILIN | Jan 2017 | #5 | |
Achilleaze | Jan 2017 | #6 | |
FarCenter | Jan 2017 | #8 | |
onenote | Jan 2017 | #10 |
Response to stevenleser (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:42 PM
elleng (122,935 posts)
1. No answers here, but interesting info:
'Like other deployments, Inauguration Day will be a complicated one for the D.C. National Guard – at least on paper. Since the District is not a state, its mayor cannot call up Guard members to active duty as a state governor can.
The District must send a letter to the Secretary of the Army requesting the support. The District and the Army must then go through a seven-step process to initiate the deployment, during which Guard members carry out duties at the request of the mayor and city homeland security officials. The two entities have been able to work together to make that happen quickly in response to unfolding natural disasters, such as last year’s record January snow fall. During that storm, which dumped 22 inches of snow, the Guard was activated in anticipation of the storm’s arrival, and troops helped shuttle officials, plow drivers and supplies back-and-forth across the city.' |
Response to stevenleser (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:42 PM
pkdu (3,977 posts)
2. Short-Fingers feels slighted nt
Response to stevenleser (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:43 PM
randr (12,109 posts)
3. Trump will be the de-facto CinC
He could, lets speculate, command troops to open fire on protesters.
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Response to randr (Reply #3)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:55 PM
haele (11,837 posts)
7. No, the deputy commander will automatically be put in charge.
If there isn't one already, there will be a letter delegating authority to the deputy commander as of noon on January 20,2016 by next Monday.
The good thing about military bureaucracy in the U.S. is that there's always a designated hierarchy that kicks in should anyone in the command structure become incapacitated or is otherwise not available. And authority in the chain of command always reaches down, it does not default up. The President, or Joint Chiefs, or anyone in the DoD executive hierarchy can't just automatically say "Stand aside, I'm in charge". Haele |
Response to stevenleser (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:46 PM
n2doc (47,953 posts)
4. I think the idiot just said 'fire everyone I can'
And didn't listen to anyone saying 'might be better to wait on this particular position'. Just a grade school mentality.
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Response to n2doc (Reply #4)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 04:22 PM
onenote (39,445 posts)
9. I think that's exactly right.
Most administrations use the transition period to make case by case determinations as to which of a previous administrations appointees to keep on and which to have go. I think the Trump team is so dysfunctional that they simply got a list of all of the appointees and sent a form letter to them all saying you're fired as of 12:01.
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Response to n2doc (Reply #4)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 04:32 PM
2naSalit (70,502 posts)
11. He's been suffering a long firing deficit
since the election so...
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Response to stevenleser (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:50 PM
sarah FAILIN (2,857 posts)
5. think about that Project Veritas story..
What if the really did hire people to riot. Now pair that with this story...
Yes, I know it is a conspiracy theory but we are IN a conspiracy right now |
Response to stevenleser (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:54 PM
Achilleaze (15,543 posts)
6. Trump will probably pick another Republican Draft Dodger like himself
He has insulted America's POWs, and now is insulting and demeaning the seasoned military veterans who staff our American Intelligence agencies, so it's clear that Comrade Casino actively dislikes anyone who actually served the nation.
As the Republican role model featuring 5 big fat draft-dodging military deferments (not to mention his tax dodging), Comrade Casino clearly thinks he is smarter and stronger than the "lowly suckers" who actually put their lives on the line to defend America. So when it comes to a new commander for the National Guard, it may well be that he wants another smartass Republican draft dodger like himself, to make himself feel better about his poverty of nobility. ![]() |
Response to stevenleser (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 04:19 PM
FarCenter (19,429 posts)
8. They can be federalized and placed under the US Army Military District of Washington
I don't think there is any lack of Army Generals in Washington and the environs.
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Response to stevenleser (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 04:25 PM
onenote (39,445 posts)
10. I think this is concerning, but not for the reasons most commenters are suggesting
I doubt very much that Trump has singled out General Schwartz. I suspect that it's exactly the opposite. Instead of doing what most administrations do (actually all in my experience), which is to spend the 10 weeks between election day and inauguration having their transition teams review list of presidential appointees and decide which (generally a small number) to ask to stay on past the inauguration, the "drain the swamp" crowd just took their lists and sent everyone a form letter. That's the kind of mindless robots they are.
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