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Alhena

(3,030 posts)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 04:43 PM Jan 2017

Anyone else most concerned about Trump's China policy?

After Tillerson's statement hinting at a blockade of the Spratly Islands, war with China is starting to seem more and more likely under Trump. While I hate and fear Trump for many reasons, potential war with a country with ICBMs pointed at us has to be at the top of the list, for me at least. I can easily see Trump trying to show what a tough guy he is with China, and saving face is very important in the Chinese culture. Really worried this will end badly.

Anyone else really concerned about this?

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Anyone else most concerned about Trump's China policy? (Original Post) Alhena Jan 2017 OP
You can name any one of his policies Sanity Claws Jan 2017 #1
Concerned? Really quite terrified, actually. Squinch Jan 2017 #2
China just by nature is a Wellstone ruled Jan 2017 #3
drumph imagines he can bully and bluster a great deal in any circumstance yet he is totally clueless BSdetect Jan 2017 #4
I don't think mercuryblues Jan 2017 #5
I'm not LittleBlue Jan 2017 #6
They have "carrier killer" missiles on shore Alhena Jan 2017 #8
It isn't effective LittleBlue Jan 2017 #9
so... djsunyc Jan 2017 #7
Terrified get the red out Jan 2017 #10
What I have never understood is why DFT has been Leghorn21 Jan 2017 #11
i'm concerned about every possible policy he stands behind spanone Jan 2017 #12
Very concerned. canetoad Jan 2017 #13

Sanity Claws

(21,847 posts)
1. You can name any one of his policies
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 04:45 PM
Jan 2017

and I will say I am concerned.
It is hard for me to pick out a single policy or action that I am most concerned about because so many of them could lead to war, civil war, or other things that are not good for living things.

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
2. Concerned? Really quite terrified, actually.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 04:45 PM
Jan 2017

And I think your analysis of the personalities is dead on.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
3. China just by nature is a
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 04:48 PM
Jan 2017

true Capitalist Society. Trump as well as the USA will never know what hit them if they go cold turkey on China. Understand this,their Economy is now greater than ours and growing at a faster pace.

This is just reality and if one thinks the China Government will give up their American interests,not going to happen. Money is fungible and that is the bottom line.

BSdetect

(8,998 posts)
4. drumph imagines he can bully and bluster a great deal in any circumstance yet he is totally clueless
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 04:51 PM
Jan 2017

re diplomacy

And his advisors are also stupid

mercuryblues

(14,531 posts)
5. I don't think
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 04:52 PM
Jan 2017

a full out war will take place. China will do the same thing it did to the Bush admin when they started trash talking them. Start dumping stock on Wall St. They own enough that it will cause the market to suddenly drop. If that doesn't work, they will call in their loans to the US federal government,1.3 trillion. They also have the option of closing Trump's and other corporation's manufacturing plants, stop shipping their goods to the US and freezing American assets. They could even push for sanctions at the UN. That might work, depending on how many countries trump manages to piss on.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
6. I'm not
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 05:05 PM
Jan 2017

We have many times more ICBMs pointed at them than they at us. On top of that, we're their biggest single customer. They would be destroying the largest market for their products. Their economy will tank if we merely shift Chinese manufacturing to other countries like Malaysia, Indonesia, Vietnam and India.

Without an effective navy, they really have no leverage here.

Alhena

(3,030 posts)
8. They have "carrier killer" missiles on shore
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 05:18 PM
Jan 2017

As well as a number of smaller vessels that can operate close to shore and carry missiles which are deadly to smaller ships.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
9. It isn't effective
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 05:22 PM
Jan 2017

Hence why it's only been able to hit a concrete carrier parked in the desert. It's much harder to hit a moving carrier based on delayed satellite images.

If they miss, we level Shanghai Carthage-style. Would they risk it?

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
11. What I have never understood is why DFT has been
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 05:50 PM
Jan 2017

dissing China so glaringly for all these months of his effing campaign, and continues to do so. Doesn't he do major business with China? Doesn't Ivanka have her stuff made in China?

Doesn't he know that Walmart shoppers/American shoppers depend on Chinese goods to survive? I think he does - so it's not adding up -

May I reference the infamous dossier? It mentions on page 8 that his campaign was not too concerned about Russian hacking rumors/implications because it deflected attention from his massive business deals in China and "other emerging markets"...which, if I understand correctly (there's a good chance I do not!), would mean that he and China are in cahoots, and it's all a ruse, this poking them in the nose so often, so gleefully?

canetoad

(17,154 posts)
13. Very concerned.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 07:08 PM
Jan 2017

Australia and the US are allies, we have US bases and facilities here. Scary times.

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