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DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 11:56 PM Jan 2017

Which Trump cabinet take will get fired first?

I do not have the ability to do a poll on here, but this question is too juicy not to ask: which cabinet pick will be the first to get fired, and why?

There are lots of names, and lots of possible reasons why. Will be someone that actually decides not to say yes to everything Donald wants, and then has to your "you're fired!" Will be someone who scandals actually catch up to them? Will it be someone that actually gets the people so mad but even Donald Trump realizes he needs to dump some baggage.

You realize that there are a lot of possibilities, and there is at least four years were any and every one of them could come about. As funny as this sounds, we should actually be thinking about who the weaklings are in Trump's chain, because our main way of getting influence will be trying to put pressure/stir crap so that the truck cabinet feels a secure as a bunch of rats on a leaky raft. If they are going to turn America into a glorified reality television show, that we might as well add all the drama we can, because if we don't add it to the cabinet, after we don't add it to Trump, and if we don't add to Congress they will add it all to us.

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Which Trump cabinet take will get fired first? (Original Post) DonCoquixote Jan 2017 OP
Tom Price or Ben Carson underthematrix Jan 2017 #1
I think Price will withdraw. n/t GP6971 Jan 2017 #2
I think he has a decent chance of surviving. But I hope he withdraws and they find someone not Hoyt Jan 2017 #3
Which is what a Trump presidentcy GP6971 Jan 2017 #6
Agree. I'll give him credit if he supports a decent health package. But he's already said Hoyt Jan 2017 #11
actually is very much one of my longshots DonCoquixote Jan 2017 #5
1. Carson RandySF Jan 2017 #4
I agree with Betsy DonCoquixote Jan 2017 #7
Possibly Mattis. theophilus Jan 2017 #8
I'm worried cos dem Jan 2017 #10
Misread the post ProudLib72 Jan 2017 #9
Easy: James Mattis jmowreader Jan 2017 #12
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. I think he has a decent chance of surviving. But I hope he withdraws and they find someone not
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 12:04 AM
Jan 2017

stuck on solutions that failed decades ago.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
11. Agree. I'll give him credit if he supports a decent health package. But he's already said
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 02:34 AM
Jan 2017

and done things no one should forgive.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
5. actually is very much one of my longshots
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 12:08 AM
Jan 2017

if I can explain why. Price made a very awful plan to replace Obama care; it is every bit the full-blown for-profit death panel that is the nightmare of everyone on Medicare and Medicaid. On the other hand though he is the only one that actually has a plan on what to replace the ACA with. The GOP has had the better part of a decade, especially when you consider that the same cast of characters were around under George W. Bush to make any plan, ANY, even a coloring book done in crayon that says "this is our plan for insurance." If they go after Tom Price, it will only go ahead and emphasize the fact that they do not have any plan! It's one thing to go ahead and admit the Emperor has no clothes, it's another thing for the king start streaking and taking nude pictures and put them on the Internet.

Of course, I will concede the very fact that Tom Price actually has a plan, awful as that plan is, might be precisely why Congress wants to take him out first, I will grant you that. That idea would go perfectly against common sense, tactics and strategy which means there is at least a 60% chance that that is precisely what our current Congress will do.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
7. I agree with Betsy
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 12:18 AM
Jan 2017

simply because she is the most vulnerable. she has never taught a class, and she is the most likely to make some very heavy-handed measures which will turn public schools into extensions of the church, which will make her a bit easier to push out. Granted the evangelicals will get mad, but the Trump action party realizes that punching evangelicals around actually works for them, and lets them get that "sister soldier" look a.k.a. "look at us slap around the evangelicals" and will get positive play in the media, as well as make it damn hard for the likes of the Ted Cruz to run against him in 2020.

However if you would ask me who I was thinking would probably get the ax first, I have a very odd pick: Steve Bannon. Now that might seem like something out of left field, after all did Steve help him when? Doesn't Steve have all those Breitbart storm troopers ready to make his life hell?

This is where I would refer you to history, and yes I'm going to break Godwin's law, but Trump is the closest we have to Third Reich right now. Simply put the storm troopers were Hitler's original muscle, but what happened was they became too unruly to control. What happened was ever found a new elite guard called the SS, who were very traditional, who had a lot less of the working class feel to them. One night the storm troopers were eliminated, brutally. This was called "the night of the Long knives." It was one of the most if you miss incidents in an era of infamous incidents, and set the stage for Third Reich embrace some of the really nasty and bizarre ideas, because many in this new organization were the crazed ideologues whose very nature turned off the working class.

If I'm saying it sounds familiar, that is because the GOP has many whole gladly step into the role of the SS, the crazed ideologues who thought that once the working class which shut up and get out of the way, they can enact all their brilliant ideas that they had been nurturing for the better part of several decades. Is Paul Ryan a possible candidate for this new elite guard, oh hell yes. Is Grover Norquist? Yes. And please let's not forget that the brothers Coke are not dead and indeed they would love nothing more than to reassert their dominance of the GOP and by proxy all of us. Fox News has no desire to compete with Breitbart, or get replaced.

theophilus

(3,750 posts)
8. Possibly Mattis.
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 12:18 AM
Jan 2017

If General Mattis is confirmed and within weeks, or months, decides to "spend more time with his family" it does not bode well. At that point Katy, bar the door.


I very much hope that he stays, however.

cos dem

(903 posts)
10. I'm worried
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 01:03 AM
Jan 2017

Mattis seems to be the only guy who is actually a reasonably competent person. I fear this was an oversight, and when it's recognized, he'll be gone.

With Mattis (assuming he's not blowing smoke) I feel like there's at least a chance we can hold onto our current alliances with Europe, and continue defending against Russia and China (Tillerson will likely be no help, though).

A lot of people are predicting a Mattis/Flynn showdown, and the outcome of that could portend the future.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
12. Easy: James Mattis
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 05:25 AM
Jan 2017

The odds of Trump trying to send the military to attack another country because its leader was mean to him on Twitter are fairly high. If Mattis has an honest bone in his body (all the Gunnery Sergeant Hartmann quotes aside, I think Mattis is a decent human being - he's not the human being I would have chosen as SecDef; Peter Schoomaker or Paul Menoher would be MUCH better if you really wanted a general, but Mattis is capable of doing the job) he will tell Trump to get stuffed because "is all the spray tan corroding your fucking brain?" is not a legal casus belli, and Mattis knows it. Trump will then have Mattis escorted off the premises.

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