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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCory Booker on working with Betsy DeVos' school privatization organization:
"I'm so proud of my affiliation with this group"
bagelsforbreakfast
(1,427 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)If you stick around long enough, you might learn to recognize them too.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Booker and many other Democrats support School Vouchers when it's done properly.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Many Democrats and teachers do not.
Arme Duncan and his ppolicies were a real negative for me. Nearly enough to be a show stopper.
The Obama administrations public education policy could have been right out of a republican think tank
I'll confess that Cory Booker was/is no where on my radar, but having read up a little on his views on public-ed, I would definitely seek a candidate with different views
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)ananda
(28,858 posts)This is a bad business.
Every American is entitled to a good, free
PUBLIC education.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)melman
(7,681 posts)PatsFan87
(368 posts)Thanks.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)"New Jersey senator sat on school choice board with Trumps choice for Education secretary
While he was mayor of Newark, Booker sat on the board of the Alliance for School Choice while DeVos was chairwoman. He also addressed the 2012 national policy summit for the American Federation for Children, on which DeVos served as chairwoman of the board of directors." - See more at: http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/booker-says-wait-and-see-on-education-secretary-nominee#sthash.5JUdAa9X.dpuf
Also..
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028488511
PatsFan87
(368 posts)which advocates charter schools, merit pay, test-based teacher evaluations, and removing teachers unions from having a role in shaping curriculum or determining working conditions. It was cofounded by hedge fund managers, has ties to the Koch Brothers, and in 2010, of DfER's seven-person advisory board, five managed hedge funds. For some background on DfER:
http://www.prwatch.org/news/2016/03/13065/how-dfer-leaders-channel-out-state-dark-money-colorado-and-beyond
Some gems from that piece:
DFER is actually the more well known PAC arm of Education Reform Now, Inc. (ERN), a 501(c)(3) charitable nonprofit, and Education Reform Now Advocacy, Inc. (ERNA), a 501(c)(4) social welfare group. Their acronym not only sounds like the word "earn," but also it has the backing of some really huge earners.
DFER co-founder (and founder of the T2 Partners hedge fund) Whitney Tilson explained the hedge funders interest in education noting that "Hedge funds are always looking for ways to turn a small amount of capital into a large amount of capital."
The Board of Directors for ERN consists almost entirely of Wall Streeters who made their fortunes through financial groups and hedge funds, such as Sessa Capital, Gotham Capital, Covey Capital, Charter Bridge Capital, Maverick Capital, Cubist Systematic Strategies, and Sanford C. Bernstein.
It is known, though, that FOX's Rupert Murdoch gave at least $1 million to ERN. Murdoch has expressed his desire to get in on education "reforms," stating "When it comes to K through 12 education, we see a $500 billion sector in the U.S. alone...."
Because non-profits like ERN/ERNA do not have to disclose their major donors to the public, even when ERNA is active in supporting electoral activities the public is left in the dark about which hedge funder is actually helping to fund state and local ads and mailers during the election.
earthside
(6,960 posts)Vouchers (and 90 percent of charters, in my opinion) have three purposes:
1) Restore segregation to education
2) Enrich 'education' services and supply corporations
3) Bust teacher unions
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)For 2020 period. Democrats need to expand their bench if this is the "leading" candidate for the next elections.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)CentralMass
(15,265 posts)HoneyBadger
(2,297 posts)Do not underestimate the value of education $ to unions vs corporations. It is substantial.
BadgerMom
(2,771 posts)in 2020!
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Orrex
(63,208 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Orrex
(63,208 posts)His leadership has been nifty, sure, but he will be (not entirely incorrectly) seen and certainly portrayed as having helped to get Trump elected in 2016, so it's unlikely that he'll make it far in the next primary season.
Especially since he re-branded himself as a Democrat when it was politically expedient to do so, only to re-re-brand himself as "Independent" when it once again served his purpose to do so.
Even if should somehow miraculously make it through primary season when he failed to do so in 2016, he'll be 79 by that point.
It would be stupid for Sanders to run for president again, and he's not stupid.
George II
(67,782 posts)Quixote1818
(28,930 posts)He seemed to turn against Sessions when it was convenient for any presidential ambitions in the future. He seems a bit too opportunistic to me.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Phoenix61
(17,003 posts)is Betsy DeVos's organization. I am not a fan of hers for many reasons. There is a huge difference between a public school system providing magnate schools that offer specialized curriculums and vouchers that take tax money out of the public school system. There have been numerous studies on charter schools and they are not a panacea to our public school system woes.
http://www.saveourschoolsnj.org/reform-njs-broken-charter-school-law/
BadgerMom
(2,771 posts)I subscribe to Diane Ravitch's blog. I can't think of a time I have not agreed with her. She is an experienced and highly regarded professional educator and academic. She had a period during which she worked with the idea of school choice. She's smart enough that when reports from teachers and academics studying the numbers began reflecting that charters harmed kids and public education while escaping oversight and lining the pockets of the wealthy, she left the movement and has done all she can to highlight the problems they cause. She's pro-student, pro-teacher, and pro-public education.
I'm a retired middle school language arts teacher who worked in an award-winning school in Northern California. My brother is a special ed and music teacher at a large LAUSD high school. Charters are the enemy as is Teach for America.
HoneyBadger
(2,297 posts)I would love to hear why. Charters compete with union schools, so I see a need to pick a side, but what is wrong with Teach For America, which puts uber educated idealistic teachers in schools that would normally be served by lesser teachers.
kcr
(15,315 posts)That's what those Teach for America "teachers" are for. To displace Union teachers while they're padding their resume on their way up the corporate ladder on to better things. It's a nasty business. Those teachers aren't lesser. Don't buy the bullshit.
BadgerMom
(2,771 posts)They don't have the education any credentialed teacher has. California requires units over and above a Bachelor's degree plus student teaching time. Some states require Master's. States require minimum subject area proficiency for those teaching a specific subject. (Think secondary school teachers such as math, history, English.) Additionally, classroom control practices are taught to professional teachers allowing them to deliver lessons rather than spend time disciplining misbehavior. It's great that enthusiastic young men and women exist and want to teach. I urge them to get the necessary training. But don't allow the RW to criticize trained professional teachers and praise the young and untrained who join Teach for America. It's a way to get less expensive labor. As little as teachers are paid, all new teachers such as those with Teach for America start at the bottom of the scale. Do you want an attorney who hasn't attended law school to represent you? Do you want your doctor or dentist to be trained? Why do students deserve less?
HoneyBadger
(2,297 posts)than the average teacher in the underserved communities that they were placed at. They are now parents in my child's public school and their insight regarding the teachers and school administration has been enlightening.
Excellent username by the way.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Well, of course you'd predicate your entire premise and position on anecdotal evidence. It's often difficult to validate our biases otherwise...
BadgerMom
(2,771 posts)who, because they care about their schools and students, have spent time mentoring and helping failing Teach for America teachers. But anecdotes don't paint the whole picture. I would suggest you realize that your friends who joined Teach for America probably they may have burdened the staff with whom they worked. And what metric was used to determine idealism?
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
dionysus
(26,467 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)I'm not in love with his views on the subject or his past affiliations, but he's not a one-man privatization army. Many DUers have espoused his positions over the years, and some have been Bernie fans and some have been Hillary fans.
Two of the loudest and most obnoxious Bernie people at JPR were vicious charter supporters, so this line of attack has little credibility with me, as anyone will throw my union under the bus when it serves them. They certainly did during the primary.
Phoenix61
(17,003 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)He's also pledged to vote against DeVos' confirmation, so this hit job by the OP is more "Our Revolution" ratfucking.
Phoenix61
(17,003 posts)Happy to hear he's voting against her
radical noodle
(8,000 posts)He's announced he isn't voting for DeVos.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Quixote1818
(28,930 posts)These senators get the most Wall St. campaign cash
http://www.cnbc.com/2014/10/23/cory-booker-mitch-mcconnell-get-the-most-wall-st-campaign-cash.html
That article linked to these which are quite interesting:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/10/20/the-ugly-truth-about-cory-booker-new-jersey-s-golden-boy.html
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/08/why-do-liberals-hate-cory-booker/278992/
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Booker should refund those donations and renounce the lobbyists who run rampant on Capitol Hill. You really think they have our best interests at heart?! Hardly!!
mcar
(42,307 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)mcar
(42,307 posts)But why should Booker be persona non grata in a 2020 race, while Bernie would be welcome?
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)mcar
(42,307 posts)"Letting the perfect be the enemy of the good" situation.
We need to be focusing on fighting the sociopath and 2018.
JHan
(10,173 posts)you know: staff, data people, marketing etc that are, individually, small donations.
Right?
azmom
(5,208 posts)Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Quixote1818
(28,930 posts)He is probably an alright guy but I am beginning to think he got into politics for some of the wrong reasons. Hopefully now that he knows the spot light is on him he will put his energy into being a populist.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)If anyone in NJ needs to be primaried, it is Menendez, who is facing corruption charges. I think that corruption charges are a far more valid reason to face a primary challenge than a purity test.
Booker won a 3 way primary to succeed the late Frank Lautenberg. I didn't vote for him in that primary, but I did in the general.
NJ typically does not primary incumbents. In fact the county parties have conventions to decide who gets the 'party line' on the primary ballot. (They run under the line X County Democrats). Typically the establishment candidate with the line wins.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)elfin
(6,262 posts)There was a series about him - Brick City - when he was mayor of Newark. At first I really liked it and him but then he grew tiresome.
He is very smart, but his actions seem even more contrived than most professional pols to get some press. Yes, they all do it, but he strikes me as a phony now that he's moved from mayor to the Senate.Trying to make a national name in order to be Pres. is my guess.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,601 posts)Presidential dreams drift away like dust in the wind...
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Chimichurri
(2,911 posts)obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)PatsFan87
(368 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Seriously, you'd think we'd try something different!! But noooo... Booker is just the next in line that the corporations are trying to sell us.
It's time We The People rise the fuck up and tell our politicians THEY WORK FOR US!!! NOT CORPORATE AMERICA!!!
Okay, I'm getting off my soapbox now.
Tatiana
(14,167 posts)I strongly disagree with him regarding his position on school choice.
However, I agree with him a lot more than I disagree with him. Ideologically, he is very similar to Obama -- who I also disagreed with on education policy.
hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)First thing they do is cut the rules so the contractors do not have to go thru the same hoops as gov't employees.
Then they obscure whether the contractors actually do a better job.
Then all the contractors buy politicians to do the aboe.
mcar
(42,307 posts).@CoryBooker: "I still have serious concerns about @BetsyDeVos leading @usedgov & will not be voting to confirm her"