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Cory Booker on working with Betsy DeVos' school privatization organization: (Original Post) PatsFan87 Jan 2017 OP
got a streak going now, does he? bagelsforbreakfast Jan 2017 #1
Welcome to DU. I've been here for a long time. I know bullshit OP titles when I see them KittyWampus Jan 2017 #5
Im sure there will be a major counter offensive in about 2 minute's. CentralMass Jan 2017 #2
I'd say the misleading OP title is the offensive part of this whole thing. KittyWampus Jan 2017 #4
Your thread title is deliberately misleading whoever the hell you are. KittyWampus Jan 2017 #3
He supports merit pay for teachers, privitization (increased charter schools) and vouchers. CentralMass Jan 2017 #8
+1 BadgerMom Jan 2017 #12
Vouchers a non-starter... strike 2 Cory! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2017 #23
Agree. ananda Jan 2017 #47
Funny how you can't refute the FACT THE OP TITLE IS BULLSHIT. KittyWampus Jan 2017 #52
It's not bullshit at all melman Jan 2017 #54
Would you mind explaining why you think the title is bullshit? PatsFan87 Jan 2017 #55
It looks pretty accurate to me. CentralMass Jan 2017 #68
Booker was on the advisory board of Democrats for Education Reform PatsFan87 Jan 2017 #16
There is no such thing as "School Vouchers when it's done properly" earthside Jan 2017 #60
So Not A Contender... LovingA2andMI Jan 2017 #6
Why are you falling for the bullshit? KittyWampus Jan 2017 #7
What bullshit ? CentralMass Jan 2017 #9
In my old state, 35% of government spending was on education HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #51
Sherrod Brown BadgerMom Jan 2017 #15
Bernie all the way! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2017 #24
+1000000! SammyWinstonJack Jan 2017 #39
Yes, let's write off the 2020 election before it's too late. Orrex Jan 2017 #40
Bernie's election in 2020 will write off the Cheeto-faced Nazi-Elect... Bernie's leadership since Hillary's defeat has been exemplary. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2017 #42
No, it won't. And there's no point in clinging to that pipe dream. Orrex Jan 2017 #57
My prediction is that Sanders will be out of elective office by the end of next year. George II Jan 2017 #50
There is video of him praising Jeff Sessions for his Civil Rights work too Quixote1818 Jan 2017 #10
Forgot about that one! Strike three, your out Cory! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2017 #25
American Federation for Children Phoenix61 Jan 2017 #11
Absolutely! BadgerMom Jan 2017 #18
Charters are the enemy as is Teach for America. HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #53
What, you think the buildings are union? kcr Jan 2017 #56
Uber educated? BadgerMom Jan 2017 #61
I know several Teach For America alumni and consider them far better educated and more idealistic HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #62
Well, of course you'd predicate your entire premise on anecdotal evidence. LanternWaste Jan 2017 #65
I know several teachers BadgerMom Jan 2017 #67
Welcome to DU... SidDithers Jan 2017 #13
Vaht? dionysus Jan 2017 #66
Sadly, a lot of his voters love charter schools. Starry Messenger Jan 2017 #14
Not all of them Phoenix61 Jan 2017 #19
Did I say all of them? Starry Messenger Jan 2017 #20
No you didn't Phoenix61 Jan 2017 #22
Why the Booker hate? radical noodle Jan 2017 #17
I think Booker is a straight political opportunist. ( see Joe Manchin ). Trust Buster Jan 2017 #21
Sure seems that way... and have you seen whose bankrolling Booker? InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2017 #26
No, I haven't seen who is bankrolling Booker ? Care to share ? Trust Buster Jan 2017 #28
Here is a glimpse Quixote1818 Jan 2017 #32
And don't forget "big pharma"... our candidates should reject their dirty money, much of it stripped from poor people who pay outrageous prices for their meds. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2017 #33
You mean the same Big Pharma that has donated to Sanders too? mcar Jan 2017 #58
Anyone who takes money from those corporate murderous pigs should refund the $$$, period! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2017 #69
Fair enough mcar Jan 2017 #70
Fair question... Booker has more "corporate" strikes against him than just big pharma. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2017 #71
I suggest we're back into a mcar Jan 2017 #72
So he should refund donations from workers in the industry.. JHan Jan 2017 #64
Corporations are people, my friend. Nt azmom Jan 2017 #73
Thank you. Very interesting. Trust Buster Jan 2017 #41
I am always suspicious when the corporate media starts pushing someone Quixote1818 Jan 2017 #27
Booker makes Manchin look like an amateur... both need to be primaried. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2017 #36
Booker won't be primaried crazycatlady Jan 2017 #44
Oh ok, didnt realize... and you're right about Menendez (sounds like another Toricelli situation) InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2017 #46
I dont trust the guy elfin Jan 2017 #29
I have relatives in NJ who say the same thing... has ZERO chance of winning my vote in 2020. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2017 #34
This is why we lose. joshcryer Jan 2017 #30
Strike 2! Fiendish Thingy Jan 2017 #31
Actually strike 3... Booker caught looking! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2017 #35
He is very pro charter schools. His legacy in Newark Chimichurri Jan 2017 #37
I see you OP, and am remembering your name obamanut2012 Jan 2017 #38
Did I make Santa's naughty list for daring to criticize a Democrat? PatsFan87 Jan 2017 #43
How dare you!! After all, we've done so well over the past 4 election cycles... InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2017 #48
I don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Tatiana Jan 2017 #45
I'm not for contracting out ANY gov't jobs hollowdweller Jan 2017 #49
Hmm... mcar Jan 2017 #59
Thanks for bringing this Arazi Jan 2017 #63
 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
5. Welcome to DU. I've been here for a long time. I know bullshit OP titles when I see them
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 01:16 AM
Jan 2017

If you stick around long enough, you might learn to recognize them too.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
3. Your thread title is deliberately misleading whoever the hell you are.
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 01:14 AM
Jan 2017

Booker and many other Democrats support School Vouchers when it's done properly.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
8. He supports merit pay for teachers, privitization (increased charter schools) and vouchers.
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 01:47 AM
Jan 2017

Many Democrats and teachers do not.

Arme Duncan and his ppolicies were a real negative for me. Nearly enough to be a show stopper.

The Obama administrations public education policy could have been right out of a republican think tank

I'll confess that Cory Booker was/is no where on my radar, but having read up a little on his views on public-ed, I would definitely seek a candidate with different views

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
68. It looks pretty accurate to me.
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 04:15 PM
Jan 2017
http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/booker-says-wait-and-see-on-education-secretary-nominee

"New Jersey senator sat on school choice board with Trump’s choice for Education secretary

While he was mayor of Newark, Booker sat on the board of the Alliance for School Choice while DeVos was chairwoman. He also addressed the 2012 national policy summit for the American Federation for Children, on which DeVos served as chairwoman of the board of directors." - See more at: http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/booker-says-wait-and-see-on-education-secretary-nominee#sthash.5JUdAa9X.dpuf

Also..
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028488511





PatsFan87

(368 posts)
16. Booker was on the advisory board of Democrats for Education Reform
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 02:07 AM
Jan 2017

which advocates charter schools, merit pay, test-based teacher evaluations, and removing teachers unions from having a role in shaping curriculum or determining working conditions. It was cofounded by hedge fund managers, has ties to the Koch Brothers, and in 2010, of DfER's seven-person advisory board, five managed hedge funds. For some background on DfER:

http://www.prwatch.org/news/2016/03/13065/how-dfer-leaders-channel-out-state-dark-money-colorado-and-beyond

Some gems from that piece:

DFER is actually the more well known PAC arm of Education Reform Now, Inc. (ERN), a 501(c)(3) charitable nonprofit, and Education Reform Now Advocacy, Inc. (ERNA), a 501(c)(4) social welfare group. Their acronym not only sounds like the word "earn," but also it has the backing of some really huge earners.

DFER co-founder (and founder of the T2 Partners hedge fund) Whitney Tilson explained the hedge funders interest in education noting that "Hedge funds are always looking for ways to turn a small amount of capital into a large amount of capital."

The Board of Directors for ERN consists almost entirely of Wall Streeters who made their fortunes through financial groups and hedge funds, such as Sessa Capital, Gotham Capital, Covey Capital, Charter Bridge Capital, Maverick Capital, Cubist Systematic Strategies, and Sanford C. Bernstein.


It is known, though, that FOX's Rupert Murdoch gave at least $1 million to ERN. Murdoch has expressed his desire to get in on education "reforms," stating "When it comes to K through 12 education, we see a $500 billion sector in the U.S. alone...."


Because non-profits like ERN/ERNA do not have to disclose their major donors to the public, even when ERNA is active in supporting electoral activities the public is left in the dark about which hedge funder is actually helping to fund state and local ads and mailers during the election.





earthside

(6,960 posts)
60. There is no such thing as "School Vouchers when it's done properly"
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 01:22 PM
Jan 2017

Vouchers (and 90 percent of charters, in my opinion) have three purposes:

1) Restore segregation to education
2) Enrich 'education' services and supply corporations
3) Bust teacher unions

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
6. So Not A Contender...
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 01:23 AM
Jan 2017

For 2020 period. Democrats need to expand their bench if this is the "leading" candidate for the next elections.

 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
51. In my old state, 35% of government spending was on education
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 12:28 PM
Jan 2017

Do not underestimate the value of education $ to unions vs corporations. It is substantial.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
42. Bernie's election in 2020 will write off the Cheeto-faced Nazi-Elect... Bernie's leadership since Hillary's defeat has been exemplary.
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 11:01 AM
Jan 2017

Orrex

(63,208 posts)
57. No, it won't. And there's no point in clinging to that pipe dream.
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 12:54 PM
Jan 2017

His leadership has been nifty, sure, but he will be (not entirely incorrectly) seen and certainly portrayed as having helped to get Trump elected in 2016, so it's unlikely that he'll make it far in the next primary season.

Especially since he re-branded himself as a Democrat when it was politically expedient to do so, only to re-re-brand himself as "Independent" when it once again served his purpose to do so.

Even if should somehow miraculously make it through primary season when he failed to do so in 2016, he'll be 79 by that point.


It would be stupid for Sanders to run for president again, and he's not stupid.


Quixote1818

(28,930 posts)
10. There is video of him praising Jeff Sessions for his Civil Rights work too
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 01:50 AM
Jan 2017

He seemed to turn against Sessions when it was convenient for any presidential ambitions in the future. He seems a bit too opportunistic to me.

Phoenix61

(17,003 posts)
11. American Federation for Children
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 01:51 AM
Jan 2017

is Betsy DeVos's organization. I am not a fan of hers for many reasons. There is a huge difference between a public school system providing magnate schools that offer specialized curriculums and vouchers that take tax money out of the public school system. There have been numerous studies on charter schools and they are not a panacea to our public school system woes.

http://www.saveourschoolsnj.org/reform-njs-broken-charter-school-law/

BadgerMom

(2,771 posts)
18. Absolutely!
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 02:15 AM
Jan 2017

I subscribe to Diane Ravitch's blog. I can't think of a time I have not agreed with her. She is an experienced and highly regarded professional educator and academic. She had a period during which she worked with the idea of school choice. She's smart enough that when reports from teachers and academics studying the numbers began reflecting that charters harmed kids and public education while escaping oversight and lining the pockets of the wealthy, she left the movement and has done all she can to highlight the problems they cause. She's pro-student, pro-teacher, and pro-public education.

I'm a retired middle school language arts teacher who worked in an award-winning school in Northern California. My brother is a special ed and music teacher at a large LAUSD high school. Charters are the enemy as is Teach for America.

 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
53. Charters are the enemy as is Teach for America.
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 12:32 PM
Jan 2017

I would love to hear why. Charters compete with union schools, so I see a need to pick a side, but what is wrong with Teach For America, which puts uber educated idealistic teachers in schools that would normally be served by lesser teachers.

kcr

(15,315 posts)
56. What, you think the buildings are union?
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 12:42 PM
Jan 2017

That's what those Teach for America "teachers" are for. To displace Union teachers while they're padding their resume on their way up the corporate ladder on to better things. It's a nasty business. Those teachers aren't lesser. Don't buy the bullshit.

BadgerMom

(2,771 posts)
61. Uber educated?
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 01:24 PM
Jan 2017

They don't have the education any credentialed teacher has. California requires units over and above a Bachelor's degree plus student teaching time. Some states require Master's. States require minimum subject area proficiency for those teaching a specific subject. (Think secondary school teachers such as math, history, English.) Additionally, classroom control practices are taught to professional teachers allowing them to deliver lessons rather than spend time disciplining misbehavior. It's great that enthusiastic young men and women exist and want to teach. I urge them to get the necessary training. But don't allow the RW to criticize trained professional teachers and praise the young and untrained who join Teach for America. It's a way to get less expensive labor. As little as teachers are paid, all new teachers such as those with Teach for America start at the bottom of the scale. Do you want an attorney who hasn't attended law school to represent you? Do you want your doctor or dentist to be trained? Why do students deserve less?

 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
62. I know several Teach For America alumni and consider them far better educated and more idealistic
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 01:33 PM
Jan 2017

than the average teacher in the underserved communities that they were placed at. They are now parents in my child's public school and their insight regarding the teachers and school administration has been enlightening.

Excellent username by the way.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
65. Well, of course you'd predicate your entire premise on anecdotal evidence.
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 01:50 PM
Jan 2017

Well, of course you'd predicate your entire premise and position on anecdotal evidence. It's often difficult to validate our biases otherwise...

BadgerMom

(2,771 posts)
67. I know several teachers
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 02:11 PM
Jan 2017

who, because they care about their schools and students, have spent time mentoring and helping failing Teach for America teachers. But anecdotes don't paint the whole picture. I would suggest you realize that your friends who joined Teach for America probably they may have burdened the staff with whom they worked. And what metric was used to determine idealism?

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
14. Sadly, a lot of his voters love charter schools.
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 01:54 AM
Jan 2017

I'm not in love with his views on the subject or his past affiliations, but he's not a one-man privatization army. Many DUers have espoused his positions over the years, and some have been Bernie fans and some have been Hillary fans.

Two of the loudest and most obnoxious Bernie people at JPR were vicious charter supporters, so this line of attack has little credibility with me, as anyone will throw my union under the bus when it serves them. They certainly did during the primary.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
20. Did I say all of them?
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 02:23 AM
Jan 2017

He's also pledged to vote against DeVos' confirmation, so this hit job by the OP is more "Our Revolution" ratfucking.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
33. And don't forget "big pharma"... our candidates should reject their dirty money, much of it stripped from poor people who pay outrageous prices for their meds.
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 04:00 AM
Jan 2017

Booker should refund those donations and renounce the lobbyists who run rampant on Capitol Hill. You really think they have our best interests at heart?! Hardly!!

mcar

(42,307 posts)
70. Fair enough
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 05:56 PM
Jan 2017

But why should Booker be persona non grata in a 2020 race, while Bernie would be welcome?

mcar

(42,307 posts)
72. I suggest we're back into a
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 08:25 PM
Jan 2017

"Letting the perfect be the enemy of the good" situation.

We need to be focusing on fighting the sociopath and 2018.

JHan

(10,173 posts)
64. So he should refund donations from workers in the industry..
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 01:47 PM
Jan 2017

you know: staff, data people, marketing etc that are, individually, small donations.

Right?

Quixote1818

(28,930 posts)
27. I am always suspicious when the corporate media starts pushing someone
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 02:46 AM
Jan 2017

He is probably an alright guy but I am beginning to think he got into politics for some of the wrong reasons. Hopefully now that he knows the spot light is on him he will put his energy into being a populist.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
44. Booker won't be primaried
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 11:30 AM
Jan 2017

If anyone in NJ needs to be primaried, it is Menendez, who is facing corruption charges. I think that corruption charges are a far more valid reason to face a primary challenge than a purity test.

Booker won a 3 way primary to succeed the late Frank Lautenberg. I didn't vote for him in that primary, but I did in the general.

NJ typically does not primary incumbents. In fact the county parties have conventions to decide who gets the 'party line' on the primary ballot. (They run under the line X County Democrats). Typically the establishment candidate with the line wins.

elfin

(6,262 posts)
29. I dont trust the guy
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 03:15 AM
Jan 2017

There was a series about him - Brick City - when he was mayor of Newark. At first I really liked it and him but then he grew tiresome.

He is very smart, but his actions seem even more contrived than most professional pols to get some press. Yes, they all do it, but he strikes me as a phony now that he's moved from mayor to the Senate.Trying to make a national name in order to be Pres. is my guess.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
48. How dare you!! After all, we've done so well over the past 4 election cycles...
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 11:52 AM
Jan 2017

Seriously, you'd think we'd try something different!! But noooo... Booker is just the next in line that the corporations are trying to sell us.

It's time We The People rise the fuck up and tell our politicians THEY WORK FOR US!!! NOT CORPORATE AMERICA!!!

Okay, I'm getting off my soapbox now.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
45. I don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 11:34 AM
Jan 2017

I strongly disagree with him regarding his position on school choice.

However, I agree with him a lot more than I disagree with him. Ideologically, he is very similar to Obama -- who I also disagreed with on education policy.

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
49. I'm not for contracting out ANY gov't jobs
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 12:01 PM
Jan 2017

First thing they do is cut the rules so the contractors do not have to go thru the same hoops as gov't employees.

Then they obscure whether the contractors actually do a better job.

Then all the contractors buy politicians to do the aboe.

mcar

(42,307 posts)
59. Hmm...
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 01:07 PM
Jan 2017

.@CoryBooker: "I still have serious concerns about @BetsyDeVos leading @usedgov & will not be voting to confirm her"

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