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socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
Fri Jan 20, 2017, 01:19 PM Jan 2017

Just curious. Why do you think that so many elected Democrats...........

are attending this inauguration? From what I can tell, less than half the elected Democratic representatives, House and Senate both, boycotted. Doesn't attending the inauguration put an implicit stamp of approval on Trump's presidency? AND since he hasn't walked back ANY of his racist and misogynistic campaign rhetoric, doesn't the attendance at the inauguration "normalize" this type of rhetoric?

Also, why are people watching the inauguration on TV? Lots of posts on here about that. That's just going to allow Trump to claim that a lot of people support him who say they don't.

Somehow I guess I just figured that there would be more resistance to the normalization of Trump, at least from Democrats and on here. So I thought I'd ask.

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Just curious. Why do you think that so many elected Democrats........... (Original Post) socialist_n_TN Jan 2017 OP
I don't that those of us who are not in politics will ever completely understand it - NRaleighLiberal Jan 2017 #1
LUL. joshcryer Jan 2017 #2
what's LUL? yurbud Jan 2017 #16
A variant of "LOL" joshcryer Jan 2017 #18
Agree 100% SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2017 #21
In our house, it's the sound the cat makes before it gacks up a hairball. n/t woodsprite Jan 2017 #33
Our political system relies on the peaceful transfer of power. TDale313 Jan 2017 #3
Yeah, this is the answer I came up with too.......... socialist_n_TN Jan 2017 #10
I think you nailed it. nt marybourg Jan 2017 #12
tradition, like getting together with fam members at Thanksgiving wordpix Jan 2017 #4
I suggest you pay attention to what the guy is up to. rgbecker Jan 2017 #5
you can always read the speech Skittles Jan 2017 #6
Yeah, that was exactly what I was thinking......... socialist_n_TN Jan 2017 #8
Who's ignoring him? I'm a revolutionary socialist and VERY publically so......... socialist_n_TN Jan 2017 #9
I turned off Thom Hartmann becasue Bettie Jan 2017 #7
I have read the transcript is this it bdamomma Jan 2017 #13
Bearing witness... 2naSalit Jan 2017 #11
So Sanders was normalizing Trump by attending? joshcryer Jan 2017 #14
Sanders is a right social democrat, so....... socialist_n_TN Jan 2017 #22
You didn't answer the question. joshcryer Jan 2017 #29
Yes, he was..... socialist_n_TN Jan 2017 #30
Absurd. joshcryer Jan 2017 #32
You'd have to ask them. Each will have an answer. MineralMan Jan 2017 #15
TWO DIFFERENT GROUPS: those who want to work with him if plans to do any good and those want a piece yurbud Jan 2017 #17
Yes, I think opportunistic personal motivations....... socialist_n_TN Jan 2017 #23
One reason: They are witnesses. They are part of balance of power. LeftInTX Jan 2017 #19
So by not listening to the Inarguation speech or attending ......... socialist_n_TN Jan 2017 #20
If Trump went full dictator mode and kicked out the press, yes. LeftInTX Jan 2017 #28
So most are still believers in the "democracy" represented......... socialist_n_TN Jan 2017 #24
I'm not going to guess at people's motives gratuitous Jan 2017 #25
I watched to see if anyone tried to assassinate the fucker riderinthestorm Jan 2017 #26
Free Lunch..... Historic NY Jan 2017 #27
Who's watching???? MFM008 Jan 2017 #31

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
1. I don't that those of us who are not in politics will ever completely understand it -
Fri Jan 20, 2017, 01:20 PM
Jan 2017

or politicians. At least I don't seem to be able to.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
18. A variant of "LOL"
Fri Jan 20, 2017, 02:49 PM
Jan 2017

Which is "laughing out loud."

You can say it means "Laughing unbelievably loud."

I just think it's hilarious that Trump hadn't even been President 30 mins before someone had to post about how Democrats are normalizing him by attending a ceremony.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
21. Agree 100%
Fri Jan 20, 2017, 03:07 PM
Jan 2017

Paying respect to the office and a ceremony doesn't equate to paying respect to the individual.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
3. Our political system relies on the peaceful transfer of power.
Fri Jan 20, 2017, 01:23 PM
Jan 2017

So I can understand them clinging to that, even when the system is so clearly hanging by a thread right now.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
10. Yeah, this is the answer I came up with too..........
Fri Jan 20, 2017, 01:43 PM
Jan 2017

To boycott the Inauguration would be to imply that bourgeois democracy is a sham.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
4. tradition, like getting together with fam members at Thanksgiving
Fri Jan 20, 2017, 01:24 PM
Jan 2017

You may not like some of them but you go to or host the event anyway, you're cordial and make the best of it in the best interest of family and family history.

If I were a Congress person I would not go. But I still respect my congress people who did.

rgbecker

(4,831 posts)
5. I suggest you pay attention to what the guy is up to.
Fri Jan 20, 2017, 01:25 PM
Jan 2017

He has a lot of power and you will not be able to ignore him for long. Best to hear what he has to say about his intentions if you are going to do anything about stopping his Fascist agenda.

If you didn't hear his speech, you are left to learn about it from others, who may have an agenda that may not be your best interest.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
6. you can always read the speech
Fri Jan 20, 2017, 01:27 PM
Jan 2017

or watch youtube

any speech from that narcissistic asshole is predictible

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
8. Yeah, that was exactly what I was thinking.........
Fri Jan 20, 2017, 01:35 PM
Jan 2017

You don't have to listen in real time to the speech to get what it's about. Listening in real time adds to his TV numbers and, implicitly at least, gives him something to crow about.

And yes, any speech from Trump is predictable.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
9. Who's ignoring him? I'm a revolutionary socialist and VERY publically so.........
Fri Jan 20, 2017, 01:40 PM
Jan 2017

I think that it's only 50/50 (and maybe less) odds that I make it through the next four years without being incarcerated or killed. But I've already got a handle on what's he intends just by his rhetoric and his appointments. And if I need to, I'll make adjustments to that analysis in the wake of his policy announcements. I don't need to listen to his inaugural speech LIVE in order to get any further insight into the Trump agenda. That just gives him positive press.

2naSalit

(86,586 posts)
11. Bearing witness...
Fri Jan 20, 2017, 01:43 PM
Jan 2017

beside tradition, they re there to bear witness to this event, they are official, the orange one is not and is also illegitimate, bearing witness must take place. This is an important act on their part, as are the actions of boycott and protest.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
14. So Sanders was normalizing Trump by attending?
Fri Jan 20, 2017, 02:44 PM
Jan 2017

It was purely symbolic, it had nothing to do with normalization.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
22. Sanders is a right social democrat, so.......
Fri Jan 20, 2017, 03:09 PM
Jan 2017

yeah, it doesn't surprise me he attended. He's also talked about "working with Trump", so I didn't expect anything else from Sanders.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
15. You'd have to ask them. Each will have an answer.
Fri Jan 20, 2017, 02:46 PM
Jan 2017

Some, including my own Democratic House Representative, Betty McCollum, said that she would be there because she is still part of government and the inauguration is part of the process of governance. I assure you that she will be fighting Trump's proposals in the House. But, she was there because she is part of the federal government and took part in this passage because of that.

As for people watching television coverage, I did not, nor did I hear any of it on the radio. Why? Because I was driving my wife to and from a medical appointment at that time. Had I been at my desk, I would have heard coverage on WCCO, our CBS radio station here in the Twin Cities.

I would have listened, because I have seen or listened to every presidential inauguration since 1952. It's important news and an important event. My watching or listening, however, has nothing to do with my approval or disapproval of the person being inaugurated.

I just thought I'd answer.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
17. TWO DIFFERENT GROUPS: those who want to work with him if plans to do any good and those want a piece
Fri Jan 20, 2017, 02:49 PM
Jan 2017

of the action when he does anything corrupt.

Unfortunately, bipartisanship is too often the latter.

LeftInTX

(25,305 posts)
19. One reason: They are witnesses. They are part of balance of power.
Fri Jan 20, 2017, 02:53 PM
Jan 2017

Imagine if no Dems showed up and Trump shut off the cameras and kicked out the press?

Just imagine what he could get away with?

How would they know what is going on?

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
20. So by not listening to the Inarguation speech or attending .........
Fri Jan 20, 2017, 03:05 PM
Jan 2017

the events, they wouldn't know what was going on? I find that hard to believe that these events are the ONLY way an elected representative can know what's going on.

Edited for typo.

LeftInTX

(25,305 posts)
28. If Trump went full dictator mode and kicked out the press, yes.
Fri Jan 20, 2017, 03:24 PM
Jan 2017

In the old days, the only way to witness the inauguration was to be there.

Of course, we've got the press, TV, cell phones etc.
But what if Trump went commando and suddenly kicked everyone out?

(Edited for grammar)

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
24. So most are still believers in the "democracy" represented.........
Fri Jan 20, 2017, 03:13 PM
Jan 2017

by Trump's minority Electoral College election and they're paying respect to the office that he gained using hate speech? Does that seem to be the general view?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
25. I'm not going to guess at people's motives
Fri Jan 20, 2017, 03:17 PM
Jan 2017

If you're concerned about why this elected Democrat or that one attended the inauguration, I'd strongly urge you to contact their office. There may be as many different reasons for doing so as there are elected Democrats in attendance, and I'm not sure any of them would say they were normalizing the odious behavior of President Trump.

They may very well exhibit their resistance to Trump in other, more tangible ways in the months to come.

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