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This video is very telling... Melania, is he worth it? (Original Post) pfitz59 Jan 2017 OP
Wow. That hurts my heart. Squinch Jan 2017 #1
Leak, Melania, LEAK! n/t ProudLib72 Jan 2017 #2
Oh shit, I think I felt one of my heartstrings. Ilsa Jan 2017 #3
Yeah I know. But she betrays herself and women everywhere, so why waste pity on her? Denverchick Jan 2017 #42
She is an abused woman, no question. pangaia Jan 2017 #56
That tape has been edited ... NanceGreggs Jan 2017 #4
Perhaps not DUgosh Jan 2017 #5
NO!!!!!!! IT HAS NOT BE EDITED!!! tenderfoot Jan 2017 #6
It's played in reverse Chakaconcarne Jan 2017 #8
According to right wing trolls it is .... tenderfoot Jan 2017 #9
That third video and the audio is in reverse?? Bengus81 Jan 2017 #11
No it's not oberliner Jan 2017 #27
Yes, it has. NanceGreggs Jan 2017 #12
The video is real tenderfoot Jan 2017 #13
Yes, the video is real. NanceGreggs Jan 2017 #14
from three different angles tenderfoot Jan 2017 #16
The video in the OP is from one angle. NanceGreggs Jan 2017 #30
Do you mean when she dropped the smile? uppityperson Jan 2017 #37
It was more than "dropping the smile". NanceGreggs Jan 2017 #40
I don't see a jump, just a sudden change of expression. uppityperson Jan 2017 #43
Look again. NanceGreggs Jan 2017 #44
I did and don't see what you say. We see different things. uppityperson Jan 2017 #46
disagree, MFM008 Jan 2017 #60
It must have been the camera from the grassy knoll still_one Jan 2017 #51
There's no edit oberliner Jan 2017 #25
Snopes begs to differ. Nt dionysus Jan 2017 #52
So what? NanceGreggs Jan 2017 #54
They analyzed it, and agree with those pointing out that you're wrong. dionysus Jan 2017 #55
There's no jump oberliner Jan 2017 #26
That middle video is VERY telling csziggy Jan 2017 #49
No it hasn't oberliner Jan 2017 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Beaverhausen Jan 2017 #45
Don't post this crap... it's fake.. Chakaconcarne Jan 2017 #7
It's not fake oberliner Jan 2017 #21
Thank you for your concern - nt Blecht Jan 2017 #41
Another source confirms that it's real... tenderfoot Jan 2017 #10
Thank you Dem2 Jan 2017 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Beaverhausen Jan 2017 #48
Another "doctored" image tenderfoot Jan 2017 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2017 #22
Think it's a joke oberliner Jan 2017 #24
Look how cute President Obama is! I want him and Michelle back! manicraven Jan 2017 #28
I'm going to refuse to wear a red tie for as long as he's President. Calista241 Jan 2017 #63
Which station was this broadcast? bathroommonkey76 Jan 2017 #17
Russia Today oberliner Jan 2017 #23
Definitely does NOT look like a fake at all. Melania's face literally falls when tRump turns away. manicraven Jan 2017 #31
It's not fake oberliner Jan 2017 #35
hahaha You can't make this sh*t up. lol nt bathroommonkey76 Jan 2017 #34
Another angle and a slow mo. DUgosh Jan 2017 #19
It's real according to Snopes .99center Jan 2017 #29
Fake FAKE! Rex Jan 2017 #32
My contempt for Melania has given way to compassion! LongTomH Jan 2017 #33
Response posted: "He whispered, "Viagra tonight," and she puked in her mouth." JudyM Jan 2017 #36
The video is very telling Runningdawg Jan 2017 #38
What I want to know is why isn't he PRAYING!! nini Jan 2017 #39
Graham actually made a joke at that point oberliner Jan 2017 #47
oh.. dammit nini Jan 2017 #50
he is a creepy old bastard Skittles Jan 2017 #53
Actually Ivanka does he same thing- beams at Daddy and raises her eyebrows suggestively and he could bettyellen Jan 2017 #57
It honestly looks like it's being played backwards. N/T pnwest Jan 2017 #58
looks like a 2 word statement MFM008 Jan 2017 #59
Watch his cheek, his smile disappears immediately, doesnt Luz Jan 2017 #61
Was he talking to her or Ivanka? Ivanka raised her eyebrows and... Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #62

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
56. She is an abused woman, no question.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 01:28 AM
Jan 2017

It is right there for all the world to see.
With what little I know, whis is not much, I can sympathize with her.

NanceGreggs

(27,820 posts)
4. That tape has been edited ...
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 08:29 PM
Jan 2017

... and very obviously so.

It is as pointless to attribute anything to a deliberately edited tape as it is to say something is "telling" about a photo that has obviously been photo-shopped.

Bengus81

(6,936 posts)
11. That third video and the audio is in reverse??
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 09:12 PM
Jan 2017

ROFLOL..... So Pence is clapping in reverse and that blonde a couple of rows back is flipping her hair in reverse? In reverse Grahams lips wouldn't match the audio UNLESS the audio was played in reverse.

NanceGreggs

(27,820 posts)
12. Yes, it has.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 09:14 PM
Jan 2017

He turns to Melania, and then there is a "jump" between his turning back towards the camera and looking straight ahead again.

There are plenty of UNEDITED videos out there showing Trump's disrespect for his wife. There is no need to edit other videos to make a point that has already been made repeatedly.

NanceGreggs

(27,820 posts)
30. The video in the OP is from one angle.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 09:51 PM
Jan 2017

Trump turns to Melania. He then turns back around - there are two "jumps" in the tape as he does so. As he's turning away from her, she is still smiling - then suddenly her head is in a completely different position; she is looking down and is no longer smiling.

How did her head change position like that without it showing up on the tape? We don't see her MOVE into that position - how is that possible if it wasn't edited? The position of her head and her facial expression literally changes from one frame to another.

NanceGreggs

(27,820 posts)
40. It was more than "dropping the smile".
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:03 PM
Jan 2017

On this tape, her head very suddenly goes from looking straight ahead smiling to her head lowered and looking serious. And yet the footage doesn't "show" the movement that would have had to take place between those two shots.

As I've said, there are plenty of videos demonstrating Trump's disrespect for his wife. There is simply no need to dwell on one that was obviously edited. NO ONE goes from their head being in one position to suddenly being in a different position literally from one second to the next, with no movement visible between the two positions.

NanceGreggs

(27,820 posts)
44. Look again.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:47 AM
Jan 2017

It's not just a "change of expression" - it's a change of the position of her head. It is VERY sudden and again, there is NO way a continuous, unedited video would not show the movement between one position and another.

MFM008

(19,827 posts)
60. disagree,
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 03:49 AM
Jan 2017

My own expressions have changed that fast.
You can see him say a couple words then it changes.
There are plenty of other pictures from that day that show them looking like Charles and Diana in South Korea at the end look.

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
55. They analyzed it, and agree with those pointing out that you're wrong.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 01:20 AM
Jan 2017

Others posted longer versions in context. There's nothing wrong with being mistaken.

:shug:

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
26. There's no jump
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 09:36 PM
Jan 2017

Sorry - realizing I am responding to the same person three times, but do watch the video.

csziggy

(34,139 posts)
49. That middle video is VERY telling
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 01:02 AM
Jan 2017

Watch the body language and expressions of the man and the blond young woman behind Trump. They were smiling until he turned around and spoke. After that their smiles disappeared and they seemed very uncomfortable. The blond woman kept looking over to her right, either at Barron (who is not visible in the clips) or at Melania.

Whatever Trump said made those two supporters very very unhappy!

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
20. No it hasn't
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 09:33 PM
Jan 2017

You can watch it in its full context. It occurs right after Graham makes a joke about the rain.

Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #4)

Chakaconcarne

(2,478 posts)
7. Don't post this crap... it's fake..
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 09:03 PM
Jan 2017

I hate trump just as much...but this doesn't help our pursuit to tell the truth.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
18. Thank you
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 09:26 PM
Jan 2017

So sick of unsubstantiated rumor mongering. This video says it's real, and I watched the zoomed out version to verify it with my own eyes.

Response to tenderfoot (Reply #10)

Response to tenderfoot (Reply #15)

 

bathroommonkey76

(3,827 posts)
17. Which station was this broadcast?
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 09:25 PM
Jan 2017

There must be a different camera angle than the one's I'm seeing on YT:

Trump turns, but you can't see their faces:






LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
33. My contempt for Melania has given way to compassion!
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 09:58 PM
Jan 2017

She's trapped in a terrible, and almost certainly abusive, marriage.

Runningdawg

(4,527 posts)
38. The video is very telling
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:27 PM
Jan 2017

not even this forum is safe from "alternative facts". Honestly, I expected better.

nini

(16,672 posts)
39. What I want to know is why isn't he PRAYING!!
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:39 PM
Jan 2017

Wasn't there a prayer being said at that point?

You'd think the bible thumpers would be crapping their pants about that.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
47. Graham actually made a joke at that point
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:55 AM
Jan 2017

Something about Trump and the rain.

Edit to add: He actually says that rain is a symbol of God's blessing and that it rained when Trump began to speak. This was right before he began the prayer itself.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
57. Actually Ivanka does he same thing- beams at Daddy and raises her eyebrows suggestively and he could
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 01:55 AM
Jan 2017

Be looking at her as much as he is his wife- and as soon as he's turned away her smile fades immediately.
He has them well trained.

Luz

(772 posts)
61. Watch his cheek, his smile disappears immediately, doesnt
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 07:32 AM
Jan 2017

fade away naturally. I agree with you. Short and sharp, and he enjoyed it.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,858 posts)
62. Was he talking to her or Ivanka? Ivanka raised her eyebrows and...
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 07:50 AM
Jan 2017

still looked fairly happy after Donald turned back around. She stopped smiling too, but she didn't actually cringe like Melania.

Weird people. I wouldn't be totally surprised if "DaughterGate" really happened.

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