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Kellyanne Conway is a very polarizing figure in the media landscape. She is both renowned and reviled for her ability to spin absolutely anything Donald Trump does into a positive. Saturday Night Live regularly guts her for it, but now, so, too, does everyone else. What was a semi-respectable skill during the election is now a terrifying White House reality for reporters who value the truth.
Today, GQ reported that New York University journalism professor Jay Rosen has suggested simply not interviewing Conway anymore. During a recent podcast appearance, he said this:
[T]he logic is, this is a representative of the president. This is somebody who can speak for the Trump administration. But if we find that what Kellyanne Conway says is routinely or easily contradicted by Donald Trump, then that [rationale for interviewing her] disappears. Another reason to interview Kellyanne Conway is, our viewers want to understand how the Trump world thinks. But if the end result of an interview with her is more confusion about what the Trump world thinks, then that rationale evaporates
No, its not just lying or spin or somebody who is skilled in the political arts of putting the best case on things or not answering a question, which is a pretty basic method of doing politics. Its that when you are done listening to Kellyanne Conway, you probably understand less. Thats a problem.
Lots of journalists are on-board with his suggestion.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/there-is-debate-over-whether-networks-should-stop-interviewing-conway-altogether/
JustAnotherGen
(31,818 posts)That would will get on TV and tell anyone who listens that the people who went down with the Titanic actually had a really good time.
marybourg
(12,631 posts)sank under the Obama administration . . . .
NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)I would love the media collectively to shun the whole cabal - that is one thing that narcissists loathe - being ignored.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)to sit and report on those press conferences every day. Let's not blame those reporters. What should be done is that they should NEVER be carried live. Only after a tape delay and after everything the administration mouthpiece claimed is checked out thoroughly. If he lied, call him a liar.
jeanmarc
(1,685 posts)...because all she does is lie. Why allow all these blatant lies on your network?
atreides1
(16,076 posts)Of both the White House and Congress!!!
Freethinker65
(10,017 posts)That all cable news networks can play as propaganda at the same time. Perfect opportunity to tune in if you desire, or turn off. It is not like she ever answers questions anyway, but it gives the administration the air time they feel they are entitled to. Afterword the networks can decide if they want to devote extra time to her babble.
world wide wally
(21,742 posts)She shows up for interviews with a prepared speech and segues into it no matter what the question is.
I wish some interviewer with some balls would just say, "get the fuck off my stage".
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)If you want to hear the truth from the Trump/Russian organized crime group, you are shit out of luck news media.
The Frankenstein you willed to power don't have any of that...ever.
Tanuki
(14,918 posts)The sycophants who let her get away with using their interviews to spread propaganda without vigorously challenging her are unworthy of being considered journalists.
Cha
(297,196 posts)she told chucky.. "the Women's March was protesting President Obama.. blotus hasn't been in for even a day, how could they be protesting him?"..
That's glaring Bullshit and she was busted for her "alternative facts" ... she's super whiny and toxic.
I'll never listen to her again. That was my one and only time.
That would be too good to be true.. her LIES Finally catching up with her?! she's a big time waster as they all are
rainy
(6,091 posts)lie and mislead the people when it really mattered; before the election? They never called her on her BS.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)There's the answer to your question.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)She is doing tremendous damage to Trump. Let her keep flailing and call her out on every lie.
GoCubsGo
(32,080 posts)Let 'em spew on and keep throwing tantrums. And, digging themselves even deeper.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)They thrive on this shit!
Stellar
(5,644 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I can't stand listening to that whiny, lying "I can't say what I'm thinking".
OldRedneck
(1,397 posts). . . keep it up.
She says some stupid shit.
Spicer corrects her with more stupid shit.
Trump gets pissed, raises hell with both of them, charges out and utters some REALLY stupid shit.
Meanwhile, anonymous White House and Congressional staffers leak to the press descriptions of how everyone in the WH is at each other's throats.
And the freak show continues.
Bettie
(16,095 posts)or anyone from the admin.
Starve the beast. It would drive him nuts if no one wanted to talk to any of his minions.
If all reporting was investigative, imagine how different the narrative would be.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)but it may be the only way to get rid of him.
Then Pence comes in and destroys everything we have worked for our entire lives, our benefits, freedoms, civil rights, all of it gone, ALL of it.
Bettie
(16,095 posts)And either way we end up in a theocracy.
Might as well make Dear Orange Leader's life a living hell while we lose it all.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)America is over, the problem is will we have a nuclear war.
We have to focus on that, but your benefits and rights are gone.
Bettie
(16,095 posts)who will stop any inquiry from that quarter.
We're wholly owned by Putin. Not even Russia, but Putin personally.
And there is no fucking way out.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Bettie
(16,095 posts)and it just gets worse every day.
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)Also when you turn it off, you should let the network know specifically why you are turning it off, and mean it. If they see their ratings starting to drop and people are letting them know why, then we will see change. If not, at least you preserved your sanity. Also, if you automatically record these shows on a DVR, stop it. If you record a show on a DVR, it counts in the ratings, whether or not you ever watch it. And finally, if you are a news junkie like I am, DU can be your alternate source for news and information, bypassing the networks. If it ain't on DU, it probably ain't worth watching or hearing about. If I miss something in the news, I look for it here, first.
ck4829
(35,069 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)limiting themselves to the facts. They have to get in on the spin. Why should the WH get to argue its side to the media and not the opposition. We can make up our own minds if we simply knew what he was voting on, going to veto, etc.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,853 posts)the time in their program slots, though.
That's easier than real journalism, after all.
They might as well fill the time with cat videos, as far as I'm concerned.
world wide wally
(21,742 posts)get during impeachment hearings.
ProfessorPlum
(11,256 posts)"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul."
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Delete the Bobblehead, #AlternativeFacts, Liar, Extraordinaire Completely From The Contact List for Major Media Networks or Print Media Coverage. Plain and Simple.
Blue Idaho
(5,049 posts)If any spokesperson tells a lie - they are no longer considered a reliable source for the President and his administration. Period. No more interviews.
appleannie1943
(1,303 posts)the question, there is no sense in talking to you" and turn off the camera and walk away, leaving her standing there with her mouth moving while not saying anything. Be damned if I would waste my time trying to interview her.
cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,680 posts)He still wants to headline every news cycle. She's a puppet, and always was.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)This interview with Tamron Hall and David Schuster was like watching demolition derby:
Finally Lawrence O'Donnell couldn't take her any more and threw her off his show:
After that she didn't appear on MSNBC again so far as I know.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)interviewing her,,,,, So Cultures had traditions of pretending people like her did not exist. They were completely shunned ,,, thats her ticket!
spanone
(135,830 posts)that alone made her opinions irrelevant
BigDemVoter
(4,150 posts)I have said since the very beginning that giving that idiot an audience serves NO purpose, as she answers NO questions, says NOTHING true or of value, and it just gives her a platform to spew her lies. She is one of the biggest liars I have ever seen.
underpants
(182,789 posts)Sure actual admin people would do interviews but she really isn't in the admin. I guess Rove would be closest to this. Axelrod wasn't everywhere nightly.
IronLionZion
(45,433 posts)The worst part is Kellyanne probably knows better but just has no self-respect.
procon
(15,805 posts)With all her stupid remarks, the gaffs and outright lies, she's a walking, talking headliner for the media.
ffr
(22,669 posts)$$$
democrank
(11,094 posts)If Kellyanne's lips are moving, she's lying....so how do we benefit from that total waste of time?
randr
(12,412 posts)She is the queen of spin and it is time to banish spin from civil discourse.
Vinca
(50,269 posts)zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)I understand having to allow various elected and appointed people on the shows because of the positions they hold. However, once you get beyond that to various "surrogates" and "spin masters", I would think that you would want to keep some sort of record, and once it had been demonstrated that they were dishonest in their appearances, or grossly unfamiliar with the facts, they'd go on some sort of "unreliable" list and you'd just stop having them on. If their bosses want to come on and be wrong, or lie then, well, that's something worth viewing. But having some lackey on doesn't contribute to the national dialogue at all, and in fact really undermines your program and pisses off half of your potential audience.
Paladin
(28,254 posts)Flagging ratings may be the only weapon we have to wean the compromised, chickenshit MSM away from lying creeps like Conway and Spicer. I've been doing my part, since election day.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)Note I said almost. She is vile just like Trump.
SeattleVet
(5,477 posts)Leave the video feed with no sound until she is actually answering the question with a Chyron crawl explaining why there is no sound, leaving her looking like a fish out of water with her mouth going, but nothing coming out of it. Make it clear to her that she must answer the question that was asked if she wants to be heard.
demmiblue
(36,845 posts)asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)Love that debate -
What was a semi-respectable skill during the election is now a terrifying White House reality for reporters who value the truth.
Now, if they stop interviewing the Conway..and feed us so called truth - does that make it true??? - When will we know??
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)His concerns over legitimacy reveal his limitations in using social media. Though he is better at it than anyone else at this time, he doesn't realize that legitimacy grows from national/community agreement, which in turn and heretofore has been the provence of the mass media model (pre Revolutionary times up). tRump is on the cutting edge of how to use social media to coalesce a movement, but he doesn't yet know how to legitimize through it.
In a sense, the "left" (a threat to both parties) is in the same boat. The marches -- an awesome event still unmeasured in significance -- was a harbinger back to the old ways of legitimizing, and it worked to de-legitimize tRump. But the new left-of-center coalition will face the same dilemma the Pretender does: How to legitimize a movement in the post MSM era. No one has a prototype model for replacing the old MSM model in this new time.
ecstatic
(32,701 posts)Her off the wall deflections aren't amusing in this setting; they're offensive & insulting to everyone's intelligence.