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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 11:29 AM Jan 2017

If Drumpfy steals a nation's oil we will not get one vote in the UN.

The best we could hope for are some abstentions.

In fact Americans should boycott companies who use their oil. Would you take a gift that you knew was stolen?

We would become a pariah state.

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If Drumpfy steals a nation's oil we will not get one vote in the UN. (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 OP
All part of MAGA Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2017 #1
Well, legislation has been put forward for the US to leave the UN justiceischeap Jan 2017 #2
So... just like Brexit? Leaving a federation and making yourself irrelevant on purpose? DetlefK Jan 2017 #5
With larger implications I think justiceischeap Jan 2017 #9
I agree - how do the right wingers not get treestar Jan 2017 #3
there is NO practical way to steal Iraqi oil lapfog_1 Jan 2017 #4
Well, they are planning to leave the UN anyway Bettie Jan 2017 #6
I hope Rex Tillerson talks to the man-baby about this "stealing the oil" idiocy. Paladin Jan 2017 #7
UN???? What UN? longship Jan 2017 #8
What UN? C_U_L8R Jan 2017 #10
It's all part of the pan, my dear... 2naSalit Jan 2017 #11

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
2. Well, legislation has been put forward for the US to leave the UN
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 11:33 AM
Jan 2017
http://www.businessinsider.com/american-sovereignty-restoration-act-us-withdraw-un-2017-1

A bill introduced by Alabama Rep. Mike Rogers earlier this month calls on the US to "terminate" its membership in the United Nations and effectively sever all ties with the organization.

The bill, titled the American Sovereignty Restoration Act of 2017, was proposed on January 3. It is cosponsored by a handful of Republican lawmakers, including North Carolina Rep. Walter Jones, Arizona Rep. Andy Biggs, Missouri Rep. Jason Smith, Kentucky Rep. Thomas Massie, Tennessee Rep. John Duncan Jr., and Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz.

Biggs said in a statement on Monday that he cosponsored the bill because he believes that "our sovereignty as a country is harmed by our membership in this body."

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
5. So... just like Brexit? Leaving a federation and making yourself irrelevant on purpose?
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 11:50 AM
Jan 2017

Well done with the Brexit. The UK is now trading-partner with and bordering to a huge power-bloc and will be influenced by its decisions... except they won't have a say in anything this power-bloc does.

Same if the US retreats from the UN. What if the UN-members agree on some decision that the US doesn't like? What about the UN Security-Council?
While the UN keeps on managing the rest of the world, the US will hiss and boo from the sidelines in a desperate bid to get some attention from the adults.

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
4. there is NO practical way to steal Iraqi oil
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 11:38 AM
Jan 2017

The most we could do is make off with a few tankers full.

Iraq has an estimated 140 BB of oil reserves. VLCC tankers carry (typically) 2 MB.

To steal it all would take 70,000 tanker trips and someplace to store it here (which we don't have).

The best we could do is leave it there, station something like 250,000 troops to protect the fields and pipelines from sabotage and hope we don't lose that many troops. 250K is probably on the light side.

So, while this sounds good to tRump's idiot base voter, it can't be done.

Not to mention that it is a war crime.

Bettie

(16,104 posts)
6. Well, they are planning to leave the UN anyway
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 11:51 AM
Jan 2017

I'm betting Dear Orange Leader already has people looking into ways to turn the UN building into a luxury hotel.

Paladin

(28,256 posts)
7. I hope Rex Tillerson talks to the man-baby about this "stealing the oil" idiocy.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 11:56 AM
Jan 2017

Like I've said a couple of times before in the last few days, we have no right to just waltz in and take another nation's natural resources, any more than we have the right to plunder another nation's state buildings and museums, seize their crops, or enslave their people. ExxonMobil CEO Rex Tillerson can hopefully explain this to the idiot in chief, telling him that the acquisition of another nation's oil and gas is accomplished by means of detailed production sharing contracts, allowing exploration rights to an energy company in return for tendering a portion of any production proceeds to that nation. None of this "take their oil" Barbary Pirate bullshit---not unless Trump is a lot more desperate to kick off WWlll a lot sooner than even his harshest critics have predicted.

What an absolute nightmare we find ourselves in. God deliver us from this stupid, evil man, and his knuckle-dragging followers.

longship

(40,416 posts)
8. UN???? What UN?
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 11:57 AM
Jan 2017

Apparently some folks haven't heard that the USA is apparently getting out of the UN.

Sad, nasty people!

C_U_L8R

(45,002 posts)
10. What UN?
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:17 PM
Jan 2017

Oh you mean that defunct outfit that used to reside where
the new Trump Dag Hammarskjöld Hotel is going??

2naSalit

(86,597 posts)
11. It's all part of the pan, my dear...
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:19 PM
Jan 2017

They want to redivide the continents again only corporations with own it all and we will all be serfs until the biosphere crashes.

And I agree that overall boycotts should be enacted but it will really hard for some, the kocktopus owns most toilet paper and household goods manufacturing as well as oil, that's why they are so dangerous... and they are holding at least one of those marionette strings. It's going to take the kind of personal sacrifice as hasn't been seen since WWII. I think one of the next moves is to foment civil war here so be on the lookout, they need to get rid of the smart folks and politically active folks (will be labeled terrorists)'

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