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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 06:45 PM Jan 2017

Might Putin consider a nuke attack against the U.S.?

With President Trump preoccupied with tweeting against the press, Hollywood, illegal voters, etc, etc, and not interested in security briefings
might Putin think this would be a good time to launch a nuclear attack against the United States?

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Might Putin consider a nuke attack against the U.S.? (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Jan 2017 OP
Why - he has a President who will likely follow him as asked .. until he decides he doesn't like him karynnj Jan 2017 #1
Why? We are much more useful as a Trump-managed subsidiary. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2017 #2
as the Putin actor said on SNL NewJeffCT Jan 2017 #7
It doesn't work that way, it isn't as though our nuclear response to nuclear attack is suddenly braddy Jan 2017 #3
And break his brand new toy? NightWatcher Jan 2017 #4
No PJMcK Jan 2017 #5
Putin is in complete control of the US government. no reason to mess with that. Takket Jan 2017 #6
I'm not sure how that would benefit him...how about, instead... anarch Jan 2017 #8
... no, Putin can't do that, not without causing severe damage first. politicat Jan 2017 #18
why? He has tRump to destroy the US etherealtruth Jan 2017 #9
Any nuclear attack big enough to be effective would cause nuclear winter turning Russia into Siberia FarCenter Jan 2017 #10
Nukes are militarily useless Worktodo Jan 2017 #20
No, but he might bro-bait Trump into attacking China, which would lead to a retaliation. Squinch Jan 2017 #11
This! denbot Jan 2017 #12
Yup. Putin wants that South China Sea, and to control all the oil. Trump wants to give it to him. Squinch Jan 2017 #13
The Chinese have moved ICBM's to the Russian border. roamer65 Jan 2017 #14
No. former9thward Jan 2017 #15
Putin isn't a dumbass like that fool we have, I don't think so. nt doc03 Jan 2017 #16
no trof Jan 2017 #17
As if we are getting off that easy Generator Jan 2017 #19

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
1. Why - he has a President who will likely follow him as asked .. until he decides he doesn't like him
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 06:47 PM
Jan 2017

Then is when we need to worry.

 

braddy

(3,585 posts)
3. It doesn't work that way, it isn't as though our nuclear response to nuclear attack is suddenly
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 06:50 PM
Jan 2017

packed away in the basement at the lake house now, our response would be instant and overwhelming.

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
5. No
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 06:51 PM
Jan 2017

Why waste ammunition when the First Puppet is doing Mr. Putin's bidding? Besides, what would Russia gain by starting nuclear war?

anarch

(6,535 posts)
8. I'm not sure how that would benefit him...how about, instead...
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 06:53 PM
Jan 2017

setting up some Russian military bases in the U.S.? I mean, if we're gonna be all friendly with Russia under the new regime, they and their voters would probably be just fine with leasing some land to good old Vlad, or maybe just letting them use some of our existing installations, right?

Why not? The Russian Army could probably help the new junta keep the urban populace in line as they rebuild our inner cities, which are apparently all currently on fire, with blood running in the streets and piles of corpses everywhere (according to the glorious leader's speechifying, anyway)

politicat

(9,808 posts)
18. ... no, Putin can't do that, not without causing severe damage first.
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 08:06 PM
Jan 2017

Maybe the officer corps, but he can't send rank and file conscripts. The Russian Army still sometimes doesn't get paid. When they do get paid, it's paltry. They still have a dearth of material goods for the lower class, where most of the conscripts come from. Most Russians speak enough English to get by in the US, so putting troops here is inviting them to desert. That's happened before. (Look at the history of the Jamestown colony -- a whole big whack of the labor force just deserted to join the local Natives.)

Basic human behavior -- people seek better conditions. The US would have to be reduced to Russian levels of disorder to keep them loyal, which defeats Putin's purpose, and we're big, with a lot of momentum and material wealth. Putin's an ass, but he's not stupid.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
10. Any nuclear attack big enough to be effective would cause nuclear winter turning Russia into Siberia
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 06:57 PM
Jan 2017

Between Russia and the US, Mutual Assured Destruction still works.

Worktodo

(288 posts)
20. Nukes are militarily useless
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 10:05 PM
Jan 2017

They are suicide weapons. Post 1945 the bombs became much more powerful.

denbot

(9,899 posts)
12. This!
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 07:39 PM
Jan 2017

I believe it would be more likely Trump will be manipulated to nuke N Korea, which China will see as an attack by proxy, and respond in a like manner.

Putin would get a two-fer, under this scenario.

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
13. Yup. Putin wants that South China Sea, and to control all the oil. Trump wants to give it to him.
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 07:42 PM
Jan 2017

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
14. The Chinese have moved ICBM's to the Russian border.
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 07:45 PM
Jan 2017

They know something's up and they are not liking it one bit.

 

Generator

(7,770 posts)
19. As if we are getting off that easy
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 08:08 PM
Jan 2017

Of course I'll just sit here in the PNW and hope for the big one. Maybe dying will be easier than waiting for the horror every day.

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