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http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/28/1626645/-Trump-removes-DNI-and-Chairman-of-Joint-Chiefs-from-National-Security-Council-And-adds-Bannon?detail=facebookTrump removes DNI and Chairman of Joint Chiefs from National Security Council. And adds Bannon.
By Keith Pickering
Saturday Jan 28, 2017 · 7:53 PM EST
Because he's smarter than all the Generals.
In the latest move designed to make sure he only gets advice from his political sycophants, while avoiding all interaction with anyone who might be nonpartisan, Hair Twittler today removed the Director of National Intelligence and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff from the Principals Committee of the National Security Council. Added as a regular member was the Assistant to the President and Chief Strategist, who is, of course neo-Nazi and avowed Leninist Steve Bannon (pictured above blogging from his mothers basement). The chairman, of course is wild-eyed conspiracy theorist Mike Flynn.
The news was broken by Zeke Miller, White House correspondent for Time magazine. And as usual, the White House tried to spin this as a really good thing, because now the DNI and CJCS will have more time on their hands:
Heres the EO as mailed to Millers phone:
If Trump wants to start a war, its hard to imagine a better first move than this one.
boston bean
(36,221 posts)diva77
(7,640 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)It will only get worse. Just look at these first days of disaster
calimary
(81,222 posts)Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)Can anything be done?
MBS
(9,688 posts)AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)vlyons
(10,252 posts)Will Mad Dog resign in protest? I predict that this is the stupidity that will motivate Republicans to impeach.
asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)IS this what you spent years in a pow camp for - is this what my dad WW11 fought for - my two brothers Viet Nam, my son RET. 21 years Navy chief fought for - for god's sake - DO SOMETHING!
progressoid
(49,988 posts)manicraven
(901 posts)members and veterans. Come on GOP! WHAT DO YOU STAND FOR NOW? GREED? CORPORATE OWNERS? RACISM, HATE, AND BIGOTRY? You should all be impeached for ignoring and violating our Constitution, which is what you're doing if you continue to support this Putin-loving, mentally ill fascist!
wordpix
(18,652 posts)or else. I can't remember the threat but it appeared to be the red line of impeachment.
How about all the other dangerous Trump idiocies, repugs?
bdamomma
(63,843 posts)tRump will be on his way out..........................this cannot stand.
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)Steps all designed to further his totalitarian agenda.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Sorry to yell a little bit. But we have to stop pretending this is by Trump's design or dicatate.
susanna
(5,231 posts)This is someone else's doing.
And that someone else is Bannon, and perhaps others, who sense and are willing to exploit little hand's weaknesses.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)b/c the 60 vote rule in the Senate still stands except for some appointees The R's don't have 60 in the Senate for all these measures King Dump is ordering.
This is a coordinated effort.
It is appalling.
It is un-American.
Sunny05
(865 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)the question is why? What hold does Bannon have on Trump? Attend some parties with Trump back in the day or...
keithbvadu2
(36,785 posts)MBS
(9,688 posts)This is so dangerous.
And bizarre.
Director of National Intelligence and chairman of the Joint Chiefs not on the National Security Council? And replaced by BANNON? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
maryellen99
(3,788 posts)MBS
(9,688 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)with all the vacancies in most departments, the gov cannot run well. Perfect "Reichstag fire," maybe.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)Stunningly reckless. It's like Mozart's opera Don Giovanni, where the the pace of Giovanni's recklessness gets faster and faster and more and more dangerous. Until at the end, the floor opens up to reveal the pit of Hell, and Giovanni chooses to jump in rather than repent. How's that for an analogy?
MBS
(9,688 posts)And the same from Amadeus:
Docreed2003
(16,858 posts)Wtf kind of world are we living in? They're begging for an attack. That or they want to plan one without input from the head of the armed forces.
highplainsdem
(48,974 posts)Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)Arrest Trump and instal Pence?
vlyons
(10,252 posts)trump is unable to discharge the powers of the presidency
meow2u3
(24,761 posts)We have a good chance of defeating Pence. He's unpopular outside his evangelical base.
manicraven
(901 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)If they don't abort the tRump presidency soon, more and more people will conclude they themselves are not fit to govern.
But they have probably been secretly hoping it would go this way so they can install the christian dominionist Pence.
Part of the problem is that if they do, the tRump base could turn on them in very violent disruptive ways. I'm not talking marches. Trump's hardcore base (about 15% of the voters) love Pence but adore Trump and their martyr complexes would be stimulated.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)MarvinGardens
(779 posts)The President must follow and enforce the laws. The law giving the President the power to make this change assumes the President is a reasonable person. We ( and surely most of Congress) all realize this is no longer the case. Correct me if I am wrong. I am not an attorney.
liberalhistorian
(20,818 posts)the rule of law is only valid as long as those charged with upholding it actually believe in it and believe it applies to them and are willing to follow it. So far, the Grab-Our-Pussies party-controlled Congress shows no inclination whatsoever to reign him in, in fact, they seem to be glorying in his authoritarian bullshit and are steamrolling right over the Dems and any other opposition. Now we are seeing and experiencing for ourselves just how it felt to be in 1930's Germany, something I never, ever thought I'd see in my own country.
LeftInTX
(25,285 posts)Congress doesn't control it, but I'm sure Congress is livid and will do everything in their power to assure DNI and CJCS have a place at the table.
bigtree
(85,995 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)someone at the Pentagon tomorrow. These Guy's do not want any type of Military deployment due to Troop and material shortages.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)The USA will be unable to do anything at all.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)... when the USA is unwilling to help for lots of reasons.
Ilsa
(61,694 posts)his military people about going after the protestors at the airport. I'm not saying anything will happen, but I bet trump is trying to shut down the resistance.
babylonsister
(171,057 posts)Ilsa
(61,694 posts)democrank
(11,094 posts)What American president wouldn't want to swap the Chaiman of the Joint Chiefs with a lunatic White Nationalist?
TubbersUK
(1,439 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)inside a car.
TubbersUK
(1,439 posts)having a few in the family, I'm fairly good at spotting the signs.
If he is, chances are he's pretty volatile at times.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Consistent in all the worst character traits.
No wonder orangeturd loves the guy.
tavernier
(12,382 posts)Yeah, mon. That face has been through some DT's.
dalton99a
(81,468 posts)GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)And booted a couple of the straighter arrows off...
I wonder what's in the works that he needs that configuration at this moment.
It's going to be a verrry interesting day tomorrow.
We are getting close to the climax months sooner than I expected.
Blue_Roses
(12,894 posts)WTF?
The empressof all
(29,098 posts)I believe Trump is an angry old man who is having difficulty coming to terms with his own mortality and looking for that last big Rush. He's a builder and just like a child who loves to knock down towers of blocks this fool is just itching to drop the "big one" This move is extremely alarming. Bannon is a psychopath --- . Pence, McConnell and Ryan need to get their act together or this will not end well for a large swath of the world.
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)please read my post here, urgent education is needed on what's happening:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028546674
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)They're remorseless lying self-seeking pod people too. I wouldn't hope for them to come galloping on white horses over the horizon.
The empressof all
(29,098 posts)Invoking the 25th is probably the quickest method of moving Trump out of the way. Impeachment will take far longer. At this point I believe they are complicit and can not be counted upon to do what is necessary to save the country from imploding or worse.
eleny
(46,166 posts)kentuck
(111,085 posts)Thinning out the State Department yesterday and thinning out Intelligence and Military today?
The coup is well under way.
Ilsa
(61,694 posts)Akacia
(583 posts)radical noodle
(8,000 posts)like the Saturday night massacre... only worse
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)Doesn't he need a security clerance for this? This happened afer trump spoke with putin.
Read my post here - it's happening even faster than I imagined:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028546674
braddy
(3,585 posts)military career at the Pentagon.
yes, but no way he could pass a security clearance with his well documented extremist views
braddy
(3,585 posts)special assistant to the chief of naval operations.
LeftInTX
(25,285 posts)Why would he still have a clearance?
braddy
(3,585 posts)now holds a regular seat on the principals committee of the National Security Council - the meetings of the most senior national security officials, including the secretaries of defense and state.
His current security clearance is surely at least as high as the one he held at the Pentagon as a Naval officer.
Chief strategist does not require security clearance. This was discussed preciously. I guess once he is in, trump can decide anything.
braddy
(3,585 posts)regular seat on the principals committee of the National Security Council does require a security clearance, and one at least as high as the one that he held when he took his masters degrees in National Security Studies from Georgetown University School of Foreign Service and was a Navy officer and special assistant to the Chief of Naval Operations at the Pentagon.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)But horrible.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)It feels like we are all being Bannonetted!
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)Trumped up CHARGES!
BeyondGeography
(39,370 posts)And sickening.
GP6971
(31,141 posts)but of course, he knows more about ISIS then the generals so I guess it makes sense. Sarcasm intended.
marybourg
(12,624 posts)This seems beyond bizarre to me. Removing the Chm. of the Joint Chiefs?
LeftInTX
(25,285 posts)There is an article about it in the Washington Post. I'm on my phone so I can't link the article.
I'm freaking out, but quickly wrote both of my Republican Senators lengthy emails regarding this.
Turbineguy
(37,322 posts)It might disconnect Trump from the nuclear arsenal.
Solly Mack
(90,763 posts)Da,m
BadgerMom
(2,771 posts)if HRC had won and pulled this stunt with the head of a liberal news site--say, Arianna Huffington. I want the Dems to react to this the way the Republicans would react to Ms. Huffington.
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)Bannon crated a humanitarian crisis to distract the publuc and took over NSC after trump spoke with putin on the phone.
I beleive they may now defy the judge's order citing national security (aka 'alternative facts'). Buckle up!
Bannon has declared the media as opposition.
I beleive we are about to be declared 'Our Nation is Under Attack' real soon.
Hekate
(90,662 posts)dawg
(10,624 posts)Claimed the CIA chief and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs could attend any and all NSC meetings at their option.