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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 12:30 PM Jan 2017

Adding Insult to Injury, Trump Flirts With Classic Holocaust Denial

He excludes Muslim immigrants and expunges Jews from memory but the new president sees himself as 'incredibly inclusive.'

Chemi Shalev Jan 29, 2017 5:14 PM

In her book "Denying the Holocaust, the Growing Assault on Truth and Memory" - the one that sparked her famous trial with Holocaust denier David Irving, now featured in the Hollywood film Denial  - historian Deborah Lipstadt cites a “Yes, but” attitude of some historians towards the Holocaust. “It is a response that falls into the gray area between outright denial and relativism,” she writes. “It is the equivalent of David Duke without robes.”

The Trump administration’s lame excuse for not mentioning Jews on Holocaust Remembrance Day on Friday falls into the category of “Yes, but” excuses, but only if one wants to be generous. By less forgiving accounts, the White House is engaged in full-throttle denial of the Holocaust, which includes denying the centrality of Jews. Yes, six million Jews died, but so did many others, according to spokesperson Hope Hicks. “We took into account all of those who suffered,” she told CNN. “We are an incredibly inclusive group.” 

Never mind that for the administration to claim it is “incredibly inclusive” on a day that it takes drastic new measures against Muslim refugees and immigrants shows a stupendous lack in self-perception. “Incredibly inclusive,” by the administration’s standards, apparently means blotting out the unique Jewish nature of the Holocaust and of the Final Solution. Even the United Nations, which established the January 27 International Holocaust Remembrance Day in Resolution 60/7 on November 1, 2005 – at the instigation of the Israeli government, among others – was less stingy than the Trump administration. “Reaffirming that the Holocaust, which resulted in the murder of one third of the Jewish people, along with countless members of other minorities, will forever be a warning to all people of the dangers of hatred, bigotry, racism and prejudice” the resolution states. By Trump’s standards, the UN is apparently too focused on Jews. It’s not “incredibly inclusive” enough.

But forget the UN. How about just looking up the term “Holocaust” in Wikipedia? ”The Holocaust also known as the Shoah was a genocide in which Adolf Hitler's Nazi Germany and its collaborators killed about six million Jews. Some definitions of the Holocaust include the additional five million non-Jewish victims of Nazi mass murders, bringing the total to about 11 million.”  Some definitions include the others, but none exclude the Jews - except for the one now being disseminated by the Trump administration.

read more: http://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-1.768232?=&ts=_1485707293862

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Adding Insult to Injury, Trump Flirts With Classic Holocaust Denial (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2017 OP
Yes he did Happyhippychick Jan 2017 #1
I had a member of this board obliquely defend Trump's position on the Holocaust. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #3
I hope you alerted and I'm so sorry that you witnessed such hurtful ignorance. Happyhippychick Jan 2017 #5
He said Hitler killed a lot of people beside the Jews. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #9
Bannon would definitely want the word Jews omitted. And what about this Kushner guy..he TrekLuver Jan 2017 #2
See Post 2. Drumpf uses his Jewish daughter as a beard. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #4
And his grandmother was a Holocaust survior: demmiblue Jan 2017 #6
He's the worst of them all. He's like the odd Jews who turned in others to save their own skin in Happyhippychick Jan 2017 #8
This is Bannon oberliner Jan 2017 #7
Trump and bannon are holocaust deniers Gothmog Jan 2017 #10

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
3. I had a member of this board obliquely defend Trump's position on the Holocaust.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 12:41 PM
Jan 2017

I said it reminds me of those who try to minimize American slavery because America wasn't the first nation where slavery existed.

Happyhippychick

(8,379 posts)
5. I hope you alerted and I'm so sorry that you witnessed such hurtful ignorance.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 12:43 PM
Jan 2017

Luckily there are more of us than him

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
9. He said Hitler killed a lot of people beside the Jews.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 12:51 PM
Jan 2017

Hitler sure did... Every death is a tragedy and their progeny have every right not to let the world forget it happened.

It reminds me of people who try to match the Holocaust against slavery against the destruction of the American Indian. The progeny of the victims have every right to remind the world what was done to them. Hopefully, this will prevent it from happening to other people, hopefully...

 

TrekLuver

(2,573 posts)
2. Bannon would definitely want the word Jews omitted. And what about this Kushner guy..he
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 12:40 PM
Jan 2017

was supposed to be the voice of reason? What a great Jewish guy he is...I can't imagine ANY Jews thinking it's OK to leave them out of specific acknowledgement regarding the Holocaust.

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