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These motherfuckers are intentionally trying to bring down the government from within. I've never seen anything like this in my entire life.
FDT.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,681 posts)that they do weapons-grade-stupid shit without understanding how monumentally stupid it is?
Wounded Bear
(58,648 posts)most Repubs use the rhetoric, and have no idea what it would really mean, of course.
Volaris
(10,270 posts)Will take a century to unmake.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)Congress and the courts need to act ASAP.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,681 posts)I believe the courts - even the Supreme Court as currently staffed - will. Judges, especially in the federal system, are pretty protective of their role as a coequal branch of government, and they actually take the Constitution seriously. Even a dickbag like Scalia wouldn't have put up with this kind of shit.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)Tatiana
(14,167 posts)They know the EO is illegal. That's why they didn't want to send it to the relevant departments for the customary review.
They are also defying at least 4 court rulings -- intentionally -- by continuing to detain people who have green cards or permanent resident status.
It's on purpose. They want chaos. They want a sense of crisis.
They want us to look the other way while they continue to plan whatever the big thing is they are planning.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)chaos..here and working on it in Western Europe
GP6971
(31,141 posts)They think they know so much more than anyone else.
Doitnow
(1,103 posts)leftstreet
(36,106 posts)Phoenix61
(17,003 posts)Just need to get the clowns out of the car and the wheels put back on.
bdamomma
(63,840 posts)that McConnell saying shit. Oh let the courts decide????? about the Muslim ban??? karma will get you.
VOX
(22,976 posts)And other horrible aspects of American psychosis, but this is a new one. A far-right-wing coup with help from Russia??? WTF?? Religious "tests"? Mass deportations??? Is this the United States??
The perps are the same people who screamed daily bullshit about Obama "born in Kenya" and "trampling on the Constitution." Now they are *in fact* vaporizing it, blowing it into mere mist.
If I were younger, I'd get the hell out, because it'll take decades to unfuck this Category 5 shitstorm. And it's just started.
This is QUALITATIVELY worse than anything else that has happened since the Civil War.
VOX
(22,976 posts)I'm impressed with the protests and demos, though.
It is clearly up to us, the people, to right the ship of state!
Generic Brad
(14,274 posts)This is devastatingly bad for business. When you hit the richest mofo's in their pocketbooks - there is always hell to pay.
Lucky Luciano
(11,253 posts)We did actually detain Japanese American citizens and had Jim Crow.
However, this has been the biggest step taken in the wrong direction after decades of progress.
LeftInTX
(25,285 posts)VOX
(22,976 posts)I still have trouble grasping the fact that such world-changing, mega-insanity, emanating from in this country, could be so utterly compacted in time. It's definitely new territory.
Rhiannon12866
(205,249 posts)I haven't voted for the majority of presidents who "won," but I've never felt like this before, this terrible fear and anger.
world wide wally
(21,741 posts)dalton99a
(81,466 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,943 posts)GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)about the nature of what is happening. congrats to all.
This seems to be a mostly ideological war, and the destruction of American democracy and liberal values seem to be its goals. The reduction of American global hegemony is to be a side effect of meeting those goals.
The cancer of the Cold War has metastasized. This is the tumor. The prognosis is poor.
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)It took two days and I am proud to see folks are finally see what we see. Question is when will mass media wake up and explain to the public what just happned?
meow2u3
(24,761 posts)Initech
(100,068 posts)virus is a good example because there is no stop button to the mechanisms that got activated. It is on auto-pilot. Massive education campaign is needed on what is happening but I don't know how.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)bigtime! Tweeted!
flying_wahini
(6,589 posts)And Hell yeah, I think they know what Trump and Bannon are trying to do.... They think their going to walk into the
vacuum that Trump's impeachment will start and everything will be hunky dory. The Rep's are so shortsighted that
they think they can fix the mess in another week or two.....
I think Bannon and Trump purposefully picked the very people that can destroy the gov't from within!!
(with Putin's help)... and Pence is going to walk in and everthing will be just fine.
coco22
(1,258 posts)They are trying to kill as many Americans as they can without Trump,look at their policies.
BigDemVoter
(4,150 posts)But that is what we have become!
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)I'm glad to see that people at least on the DU are waking up to the unimaginable reality. I wish the media would wake - they arr basically destroying themselves. We lost the Cold War. Russia won. I expect massive ICE raids as soon as next week. I never thought the pace would be so fast. But I think it's because they know the time is running out.
Expect libel laws to open up very soon. Indendent media which publishes the truth (meaning against trump) will be sued on the basis of undermining national security. Even more so, he will punish corporations that advetise on the media - basically cutting the money. Independent media will rely on us (as Bannon said - opposition).
Remember, Conway said "he is just getting started".
He is already a de facto authoritarian. He can disobey constitution and any laws, period. He cannot be removed unless impeached or killed. And nuclear codes will keep the world on edge.
The military must obey him as commander-in-chief.
Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)First, the Democrats destroyed, then the Republicans.
mn9driver
(4,425 posts)Shocked, I asked him what he meant.
Lenin, he answered, wanted to destroy the state, and thats my goal too. I want to bring everything crashing down, and destroy all of todays establishment.
...
I emailed Bannon last week recalling our conversation, telling him that I planned to write about it and asking him if he wanted to comment on or correct my account of it. He responded:
I dont remember meeting you and dont remember the conversation. And as u can tell from the past few days I am not doing media.
...
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/22/steve-bannon-trump-s-top-guy-told-me-he-was-a-leninist.html
Hekate
(90,662 posts)silverweb
(16,402 posts)etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)Rather than insisting that DHS and State are included in policy preparation they are letting it slide knowing that it will eventually blow up.
TrollBuster9090
(5,954 posts)But they won't be coming off the SENATE CLOWN CAR until they try to repeal Obamacare, and they won't come off the HOUSE CLOWN CAR until they A) try to find the money to build the wall, B) face having to raise the DEBT CEILING In March, and C) have to pass a BUDGET.
This is only the beginning of what's shaping up to be one SPECTACULAR clusterf@#k!
Perseus
(4,341 posts)that Hugo Chavez used in Venezuela, you should read the article in Vogue, these are Venezuelans telling the story, they feel Deja Vu with Trump.
http://www.vogue.com/13525611/trump-chavez-similarities/
I said the same thing to my friends before they voted for Trump, they would not believe it, but the article hits the nail on the head.
And I hate to say it, but marches do not work. This is what I wrote a while back on my predictions for this administration, it is a full article which I have not sent anywhere yet...this is just a paragraph and it is based on what i know from Venezuela, how chaos evolved there.
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People will conduct protest marches, some of them will include violence which will be instigated and approved by the government (you saw Trump rallies where he encouraged violence against opponents), and unfortunately there will be blood. Dictatorships condone this type of violence to create fear, to put the brakes on people who may want to conduct civil protests. They will go hard against the media, which they have already started (CNN fake news?), they dont want any of this to be reported, they will try to manipulate the news the same way they have done through Fox News all these years.
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And be very aware and concerned if the military starts joining the administration, if Trump suddenly starts promoting people within the military, that should be a warning sign. Dictators need the military, and once they own it it is very difficult to reverse the damage.
keithbvadu2
(36,784 posts)tom_kelly
(958 posts)responsible for Trump's presidency. But the Fox News itself takes the most credit for daily force-feedings of the RW BS that normalizes this BS in the heads of their zombie viewers. I haven't seen anything reported or talked about on how the Fox News is reporting, or normalizing, the Trump "precedentcy." If I turned it on I'm afraid of how I may react
Rex
(65,616 posts)nt