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Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 05:55 PM Jan 2017

Fake news is about to get even scarier than you ever dreamed

I read this a few days ago and was too freaked out to even discuss it. Talk me off the ledge, anyone?

At corporations and universities across the country, incipient technologies appear likely to soon obliterate the line between real and fake. Or, in the simplest of terms, advancements in audio and video technology are becoming so sophisticated that they will be able to replicate real news—real TV broadcasts, for instance, or radio interviews—in unprecedented, and truly indecipherable, ways.

One research paper published last year by professors at Stanford University and the University of Erlangen-Nuremberg demonstrated how technologists can record video of someone talking and then change their facial expressions in real time. The professors’ technology could take a news clip of, say, Vladimir Putin, and alter his facial expressions in real time in hard-to-detect ways. In fact, in this video demonstrating the technology, the researchers show how they did manipulate Putin’s facial expressions and responses, among those of other people, too.

This is eerie, to say the least. But it’s only one part of the future fake-news menace. Other similar technologies have been in the works in universities and research labs for years, but they have never really pulled off what computers can do today. Take for example “The Digital Emily Project,” a study in which researchers created digital actors that could be used in lieu of real people. For the past several years, the results have been crude and easily detectable as digital re-creations. But technologies that are now used by Hollywood and the video-game industry have largely rendered digital avatars almost indecipherable from real people. (Go and watch the latest Star Wars to see if you can tell which actors are real and which are computer-generated. I bet you can’t tell the difference.) You could imagine some political group utilizing that technology to create a fake hidden video clip of President Trump telling Rex Tillerson that he plans to drop a nuclear bomb on China. The velocity with which news clips spread across social media would also mean that the administration would have frightfully little time to respond before a fake-news story turned into an international crisis.

Audio advancements may be just as harrowing. At its annual developer’s conference, in November, Adobe showed off a new product that has been nicknamed “Photoshop for audio.” The product allows users to feed about ten to 20 minutes of someone’s voice into the application and then allows them to type words that are expressed in that exact voice. The resultant voice, which is comprised of the person’s phonemes, or the distinct units of sound that distinguish one word from another in each language, doesn’t sound even remotely computer-generated or made up. It sounds real.

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Fake news is about to get even scarier than you ever dreamed (Original Post) Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2017 OP
Recommended. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #1
Running out of room, but you can still squeeze in. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2017 #4
K&R!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! burrowowl Jan 2017 #2
There must be people smart enough to design detection methods, right? Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2017 #5
The future for truth is bleak. WheelWalker Jan 2017 #3
I'm really hoping someone is going to convince me this is nothing to worry about. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2017 #6
i'll throw something out to maybe give a little hope: uncle ray Jan 2017 #10
Thanks for the feedback. So, anything official would require Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2017 #11
i suppose actual film at the source. uncle ray Jan 2017 #12
It seems like what was supposed to be great progress has turned out... Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2017 #13
I don't how many of you might have seen Lewis Black Runningdawg Jan 2017 #7
Yep, I did see that. Funny, but in a really frightening way. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2017 #8
Yikes! But I couldn't agree more! Rhiannon12866 Feb 2017 #14
Kicking, cuz this shit needs to be known. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2017 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2017 #15

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
4. Running out of room, but you can still squeeze in.
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 06:14 PM
Jan 2017

And some room might clear out any minute if we don't calm down.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
6. I'm really hoping someone is going to convince me this is nothing to worry about.
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 06:51 PM
Jan 2017

Although, it's going to take a lot of convincing!

uncle ray

(3,156 posts)
10. i'll throw something out to maybe give a little hope:
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 09:02 PM
Jan 2017

perhaps analog video will make a comeback. it happened with audio, vinyl LPs now outsell CDs. different reasons of course, but down the road we may see it happen with video because you can't fake analog.

uncle ray

(3,156 posts)
12. i suppose actual film at the source.
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 09:08 PM
Jan 2017

later generations could be transmitted digitall after conversion as long as the official record was on film. hair-brained. but we're entering weird times.y

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
13. It seems like what was supposed to be great progress has turned out...
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 09:17 PM
Jan 2017

not so much. I guess there's always someone out there who will exploit the good for their own nefarious purposes, and I love modern technology, but I'm not sure it's working out for us all that well.

Runningdawg

(4,516 posts)
7. I don't how many of you might have seen Lewis Black
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 06:54 PM
Jan 2017

on SC show last night, but I am going to borrow a quote from him that fits perfectly here. (paraphrasing)
I did a lot of hallucinogens in my youth. I thought by visiting a variety of possible realities I would be prepared for anything in the future. NOTHING PREPARED ME FOR THIS SHIT.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
8. Yep, I did see that. Funny, but in a really frightening way.
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 06:58 PM
Jan 2017

By the way, looks like Jon Stewart will be on Colbert's show tonight:


Rhiannon12866

(205,328 posts)
14. Yikes! But I couldn't agree more!
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 12:05 AM
Feb 2017

The real news has already been surreal and frightening enough for me. I missed Lewis Black last night since the 12am edition of Rachel Maddow was live. I'm sorry now that I missed him (he was excellent on The Daily Show recently), but if I'd seen him, I may not have slept at all...

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
9. Kicking, cuz this shit needs to be known.
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 08:58 PM
Jan 2017

I know you're all busy, but please read.

Will kick again later if I get back here.

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