General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHes not right, mentally: Al Franken reveals GOP senators are worried about Trump
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/al-franken-urges-anti-trump-liberals-to-stay-involved/#.WJ-CetW3UNA.facebookHes not right, mentally: Al Franken reveals GOP senators are worried about Trump
David Ferguson
11 Feb 2017 at 09:01 ET
Sen. Al Franken appeared on Fridays Real Time with Bill Maher and said that opinions of the new president among Republican senators vary. Some say, he said, that hes not right, mentally.
And then, some are harsher, he said. I havent heard a lot of good things and Ive heard great concern about his temperament.
snip//
Maher brought up that Time magazine is already calling for Trumps impeachment over violations of the emoluments clause, not to mention the presidents mental problem.
Al, when will the impeachment hearings start? Maher asked.
Let me remind you again that the Republicans are in the majority, Franken said, so its months and months away.
I know everybody wants a quick fix on this, he said, but this is going to be a bit of a marathon.
However, he said that the last week has been incredible. People are showing up for town halls by the hundreds, he said. Theres a tremendous amount of energy around the country.
He urged people to stay involved.
It works, we got hundreds of thousands of calls about Betsy DeVos at the Senate and that makes a difference, he said. She is on notice, now, and shes not going to be able to do a lot of the things that I think she wanted to do because of that. What you people do makes a huge difference.
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)Criminal arrest would probably be much faster than impeachment.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)Procedures in 25th Amendment would take much less time--weeks, at the outside, iirc.
Of course, Congresscritters would have to agree that he is unable to perform the duties of his office. That's a problem since, for some, the only duty required is signing his name.
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)I doubt that is going to happen.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)In this regard Trump is capable of Uuuuuge Things.
DK504
(3,847 posts)I doubt they any true loyalty to a maniac. They may want to distance themselves from this train wreck.
homegirl
(1,429 posts)is their man and he is one of the three officers required to enact Article 4 of the 25th Amendment, the other two-McConnell and Ryan. #45 could be gone before the Fourth of July.
Not that Pence is my choice but he is saner that #45.
Volaris
(10,272 posts)Of normalcy and political decorum.
renegade000
(2,301 posts)one of the benefits is that I don't think that an attack would actually galvanize much more additional support for Trump. It would play into the growing narrative of incompetence and chaos.
the downside is that widdling down his support is going to take time as well.
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)If it was well-planned and well-executed, it could unleash the mobs in a nationwide wave of extremely violent anti-Islamic pogroms. Think mass murder. Think Rwanda. It would also give The Gang their opportunity to consolidate authoritarian security powers. Like happened with the Patriot Act.
If I was going to pull a false flag with that desired outcome, I'd target a large group of people containing a lot of Trump supporters, using a VERY big bang. And I'd make sure the evidence trail went to an Islamist group. Kind of like what happened with 9/11. Imagine a 9/11-scale event happening in this social climate.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Kilgore
(1,733 posts)The Trump voters are very pleased with his "progress" so far. This is especially true among the union guys I know who are worried about their jobs going offshore.
As I have posted before, our area went for Obama twice.
murielm99
(30,745 posts)to pull off a Reichstag fire. People would see through it. They have too many leaks. They are just plain incompetent. Also, we have camera phones, instant social media, and ways to communicate that they lacked in Nazi Germany. They can yell about fake news all they want. They might only push themselves further into the hole with something like that.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)...that Bannon is working on the Reichstag fire.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)is unbalanced and unfit?
If I were to bet, I would not bet on the integrity of any GOP Congressperson or Cabinet member.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)....kind of courage. It's too selfless.
underpants
(182,826 posts)Lotusflower70
(3,077 posts)I am so proud that Al Franken is my Senator. The marathon is on, we have to dig in deep and fight.
inanna
(3,547 posts)Cha
(297,275 posts)Ilsa
(61,695 posts)Handles this situation. They're going to get a bunch of us killed by their inaction on 45.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)Al, when will the impeachment hearings start? Maher asked.
Let me remind you again that the Republicans are in the majority, Franken said, so its months and months away.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)I hope I am proved wrong.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)tomp
(9,512 posts)...refusing to investigate him or demand his tax returns. they must by now have some idea by now how much damage this madman and his henchmen can do in"months and months?
they're all a bunch of unprincipled, untrustworthy assholes!
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Tatiana
(14,167 posts)I mean, he seems to take it as a given that at some point, Trump will be impeached. It's just going to take a while.
MrPurple
(985 posts)I watched it on HBO. Al was responding to Maher's question and reminding in a humorous way that the D's are in the minority and at this point, there isn't much they can do, but to keep up the fight. I think it's highly unlikely that enough R's in the House would ever vote to impeach Trump. If he did something bad enough to pass through the House, though, there would probably be enough Senators willing to remove him from office.
appalachiablue
(41,140 posts)Hekate
(90,714 posts)OldHippieChick
(2,434 posts)when the Dems can take back the Senate. Nothing will happen before then Repugs are not going to give up on their own agenda or turn their backs on their large donors. It will take a change in the Senate before impeachment will make it any further.
lark
(23,105 posts)you are so right. It is critical that we take back the Senate, even with an unfavorable map. I just hope some of the drumpf voters will realize how toxic he is and how detrimental to their lives his presidency has been and that they will flip and vote Dem and that previous non-voters will get motivated by the damage he's done by that time.
7962
(11,841 posts)nothing is a given, especially seeing what states are invloved
The Sand Reckoner
(194 posts)who have voted in lockstep to confirm every one of der Fuhrer's misbegotten cabinet appointments?
They can all go fuck themselves.
And sorry, but no. No amount of phone calls and protests makes up for a majority of actual legislators. Why are people only demonstrating this energy NOW? Barn door. Horse.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Let's hope Al is right on this one. He's just got to go.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)However, there are laws in place that will allow Pence to oust Trump from power. I am betting that Trump suffers from dementia and his folks knew it when they ran him and planned all along to give him the boot.."for health reasons."
Anyone who has to ask an adviser whether a strong dollar is "good" or "bad" is not all there.
MrPurple
(985 posts)There's hundreds of hours of footage of him in debates and at rallies. No sign whatsoever of him losing his train of thought or anything like that.
He's a lying, twisted, evil egomaniac, but that has nothing to do with senility.