Karl Rove's Bisexual Affair Might Have Sparked His Bizarre Rant on Fox News

[johnfunk]

Karl Rove is having a bisexual affair with the president of a conservative bloggers' group, and concern about being outed sparked [link:legalschnauzer.blogspot.com/2012/06/what-prompted-karl-rove-to-go-off-on.html|Rove's falsehood-filled diatribe] last week on Greta Van Susteren's Fox News program.

Rove's lover is Ali Akbar, president of the National Bloggers Club, an umbrella group that grew from the activism of the late right-wing publisher and pundit Andrew Breitbart. A left-leaning Web site called Breitbart Unmasked recently disclosed that Akbar has a criminal record that includes convictions for credit-card fraud, theft, and burglary.

The stunning allegations about Rove and Akbar are included in a letter sent yesterday from Alabama attorney Dana Jill Simpson to Robert Bauer, counsel for President Barack Obama's 2012 re-election campaign. The letter also includes an appeal for a presidential pardon on behalf of former Alabama Governor Don Siegelman.

Rove, appearing with Van Susteren on the June 20 edition of On the Record, took a question about the tax-exempt status of certain PACs and turned it into an attack on Simpson, Bauer, and Siegelman--who was the target of perhaps the most notorious political prosecution in U.S. history.

More at Legal Schnauzer.



Hat tip: APJ

[rufus dog]

1. True!

Must be because I read it.

[annabanana]

3. (there is some history here). . . . .n/t

[johnfunk]

4. A mountain of history, in fact

Rove has been a major moving force in Alabama politics for over two decades. And this is not the first news of Rove's sexual proclivities to have surfaced since he hooked up with George Bush Jr.

[spinbaby]

33. EW!

Now I'm going to have to disinfect my brain.

[dixiegrrrrl]

44. Save some for rme....

the picture of Rove involved with anybody......shudder.

[rufus dog]

107. The Rufus Dog is actually a Golden

Looks a lot like the one in your picture. That being said, and I am sure you know Goldens, even a Golden would run away from Rove, hell they might even growl, which my Golden has done NEVER at a human. (now he does make a snoring sound while being scratched, that some people confuse with a growl. Not sure how when the eyes are rolled back and the tongue hanging out like your picture)

[dixiegrrrrl]

115. My Golden actually is a good barker and growler at some people

I trained him to "act" aggressive at the door...only other Golden lovers know it is an act.

[eridani]

194. If gays have to accept J Edgar was one of them, bis have to do the same with Karl

We are everywhere, and some of us are amoral sociopaths.

[freshwest]

38. Sure! Besides, I want to see Rove in trouble. Just call me unfair and unbalanced about Rove...

[goclark]

181. I call you Fair cause I would delight in Rove

being in trouble.

[Rex]

93. So if I read your statement correctly

I should not believe you and believe what I have not read...

[annabanana]

2. You really have to be in the weeds (and to have lived there for

a while) for this to make sense.

I wonder what Rachel thinks of this vis-a-vis Rove's apparent non-sequitur on Fox?

[Hyper_Eye]

24. From last nights show...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/ns/msnbc_tv-rachel_maddow_show/#47971419

[aquart]

5. Karl loves a gay, money-stealing Muslim?

AUDIT! Karl is funneling millions in dark money and it's going WHERE?

This is waaay too good to be true. But all I've seen so far is innuendo and supposition.

And what, pray tell is bisexual about guy/guy?

[struggle4progress]

6. That's why I stopped reading Legal Schnauzer

[trof]

106. The guy does have an axe to grind.

I dunno.

[closeupready]

7. 'what...is bisexual about guy/guy [love affair]?' Excellent point.

Whether this rumor is true or not, it's always a hoot when the homophobic media shows their true colors when trying to make a superfluous point.

[aquart]

9. Yes. Which is why I'm happy to promote the speculation.

Think of it: Karl's great passion is a gay Muslim who can't keep his hands off money that isn't his.

It's a right wing nightmare come true.



Edit for typo.

[yellowcanine]

25. Right. A person can be bisexual but they can't have a bisexual affair unless it is a threesome.

[johnfunk]

65. I could imagine Rove in bed with a dead girl AND a live boy...

Now that's what I call bisexual!

IGWS that this parsing of "bisexual" "affair" is a convenient way to draw attention from the news that Rove is apparently in a hawt hookup with a gay Muslim thief. That should go over well with teh Tea Party...

[Joe Bacon]

72. Sure he can!

But when it comes to Rove, it's more like a "BUY-SEXUAL" affair with his MasterCard!

[Alcibiades]

173. I think it's because of this letter:

Apparently, Akbar's ad referenced bisexual sex.

[leveymg]

58. Is the point of this gay innuendo, or something criminal? Mish-mash.

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Okay, so what if Karl has a male, Muslim lover. Not a big surprise, but even if true, who really cares? And, why the Hell does this belong in a letter sent to Obama's attorney? Badly drafted and confusing, even for a blog entry.

[LaydeeBug]

103. It matters because of the homophobic agenda he supports, and you damn well know it. nt

[samsingh]

210. it matters because rove has attacked other bisexual and homosexual people

[JackRiddler]

212. It matters because of all the anti-gay state ballot measures Rove...

engineered in 2004 to boost turnout among homophobes and thus get more votes for Bush.

Given the "War on Terror" propaganda the lover being a Muslim would be a bonus, too.

Unfortunately, whatever. Ain't likely to get very far.

[The Wizard]

64. What part is innuendo? (NT)

[Thor_MN]

175. I think it is just a typo... I'm pretty sure tha Rover ain't getting anything he hasn't paid for.

[marble falls]

195. if one or both of the guys go girl on occasion.

[mysuzuki2]

8. ho hum

[Turbineguy]

10. Very

Juicy.

[grasswire]

11. so this ali akbar set up a site to harvest credit card info from donors?

And he has a felony record for credit card fraud?

And Karl is having an affair with him?

[johnfunk]

66. You pretty much nailed it.

Honest-to-goodness conservative romance at its finest.

[PlanetBev]

12. Somebody got naked with Karl Rove?

I just burst into a flaming ball of death....

[Proud Liberal Dem]

14. +1

I'm going to wake up screaming in the middle of every night from now on after hearing about this.

[yellowcanine]

26. I don't even want to think about that.

[abelenkpe]

31. O man.....

the visuals are terrifying!

[onethatcares]

46. specially his

"O" face

[AlbertCat]

74. the visuals are terrifying!

What, you can't stand the thought of "Turdblossom" hiking the ol' Appalachian Trail with one of the 40 thieves?

[magical thyme]

43. somebody pass the bleach please...nt

[billybob537]

200. Oh Help me

holy trinity of mental Health(Capt. Morgan, Johnny Walker, and Jim Beam) Exorcise these demons from my brain!!!

[ArnoldLayne]

79. Good one

[Kahuna]

84. DUzy!!!

[Marrah_G]

164. Perhaps you could explain the joke to everyone

[Marrah_G]

152. NOT funny

[cwydro]

186. sad to see on DU

sadly not surprising...

[freshwest]

158. I know, I know...

[SCVDem]

13. Jeff Gannon/Guckert

Was he in the White house to see Turds Blossom?

[notadmblnd]

54. Too F'n funny.

that got me laughing so hard, I could hardly type.

[Huey P. Long]

215. Jeff Gannon/Guckert -either him or Scotty. -eom

[calimary]

15. Murky as hell. But then again, you DO have to ask -

WHY did they want secrecy protecting their donors? WHY are they so adamant about keeping that a secret? WHAT are they hiding?

Remember the lessons of Watergate: Follow The Money.

So how could we find out? What kind of digging does this call for?

[neeksgeek]

21. Hopefully not the kind ...

of digging that involves shallow trenches in the woods. But it would not surprise me.

[calimary]

67. Yeah, I know. But this IS kkkarl rove we're talking about. With him, I wouldn't rule ANYTHING out.

But he's very good at it. He's good at not leaving fingerprints. And unfortunately, we don't have enough people on our side who think like he does. That's the only way we can nail him. Think like he does and think around him. Then you might not be caught as flat-footed every time he pulls some new maneuver. His is a devious game. So we have to match him on deviousness in order to contain him and head him off at the pass. I don't think anyone on our side truly understands this. To most, it's - "oh, we CAN'T do THAT!!!! It'd make us just like THEM!" Well, I want to be able to beat them so soundly they don't come back to power for YEARS. That's the only way we have a chance to fix a few things. And our side is full of spineless people who cling to their precious feather dusters when it's time to go face the gun fight.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

16. If true, it proves that Karl Rove is not a racist. Ali Akbar is the one in the photo on the left.

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[laundry_queen]

45. LOL that proves nothing

My brother, married to a woman who is half black, is still racist. He just makes 'exceptions' for the people he knows. Doesn't mean he isn't racist.

[Tarheel_Dem]

85. Try again.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

88. You never do make any sense.

Or you never say anything that ever sounds sensible to me.

Why don't you just put me on your ignore list?

[Tarheel_Dem]

94. And it was "sensible" for you to post a pic of a dark skinned man, and claim KKRove can't ......

possibly be racist? In what universe? You get to unilaterally exonerate KKKarl Rove based on a photo? And I wouldn't dare "put you on ignore", not if you keep coming up with gems like the one you posted. OTOH, you're free to take your own advice, but just know that I'll still be responding to nonsense when I see it.

Sensible? I guess we both pretty much have the same low opinion of the other.

[Iggo]

135. That made perfect sense.

[Bjorn Against]

101. Strom Thurmond had a bi-racial daughter, does that mean he was not a racist?

[Tarheel_Dem]

112. +1. Apparently the poster has absolutely no frame of reference for this issue. It was a nonsensical

statement to say the least.

[Skraxx]

105. Err, Not Even Close

In fact it would be par for the course for a racist to have a secret interracial affair, and a known rabid homophobe to have a homosexual affair. What planet have u been living on?

[EOTE]

109. Thanks for educating me! Now I know that Jesse Helms wasn't racist either!

I could have sworn he was a died in the wool racist, but I guess because he fucked the black help, he must have been a member of the Rainbow Coalition or something.

[Tarheel_Dem]

110. +1

[NYC Liberal]

120. By that logic, a man who is married to a woman can't be a misogynist.

[freshwest]

122. That explains Rush's marriages. Oh, wait. Karl and Rush in one thread is too much. Gotta go and...

[rateyes]

174. Thomas Jefferson slept with his slaves.

Guess he wasnt racist because, though he OWNED slaves, he had sex with them.

[dixiegrrrrl]

49. Being gay is a "lifestyle CHOICE"??????????????

a CHOICE?????????

[notadmblnd]

57. that was quite a tell there wasn't it.

could that have been rove himself posting?

[Rex]

95. I know, had to re-read that for myself.

What interesting things you learn about people.

[Zalatix]

166. My post was marked as a TOS violation?

[uppityperson]

178. In your opinion, is homosexuality a lifestyle choice?

Quoting from your now self deleted post there. Wondering if perhaps you'd clarify rather than simply self delete. Thank you.

[Zalatix]

182. I self-delete only when I feel I mis-spoke and it provoked people. This was one of those cases.

I don't think it's a lifestyle choice - I also don't think society has any place caring whether it's a lifestyle choice or not. Gays should be allowed to get married, adopt kids, whatever straight people can do, and this "gay-shaming" of Rove is a step backward for us. We know Rove is a hypocrite in many ways. What do we gain by bringing up unsubstantiated rumors of bisexual affairs? We come across as homophobes and we do more to legitimize homosexuality witch hunts than we do to damage Rove's reputation.

[uppityperson]

187. I think that confronting "It's a lifestyle choice" rather than inherent is important.

I don't think it matters what someone's orientation is. But it is important to confront "lifestyle choice" as that implies that sexual orientation is a choice and wtf is "lifestyle" in regards to orientation? It isn't "lifestyle" but orientation.

"I also don't think society has any place caring whether it's a lifestyle choice or not." I do. Sexual orientation isn't a "choice" or a "lifestyle". I care when people think it is.

Again, I don't care what orientation someone is unless I am involved with them.

[eridani]

196. The word "lifestyle" makes me want to figuratively beat the user to a bloody pulp

LBGT people do not have LIFESTLYES; we have LIVES.

[Alcibiades]

165. It is a choice

They invariably choose to be closeted. That part is certainly a lifestyle choice.

[Iggo]

138. Whoa! What?!?

I do agree with the whoopty-fricken-doo part, though.

But "lifestyle choice"? Dude...

[MADem]

151. Celibacy is a lifestyle choice. Sexual orientation, though, is something that is hard-wired. It's

like the color of your eyes or the color of your hair. Sure, you can hide behind colored contact lenses and hair dye, but you can't permanently change them. You've got to stay very busy to keep the lie afloat.

[Zalatix]

172. I completely understand. Society has no place even caring either way.

This Rove thing is ridiculous. He had a bisexual affair, so what. Moves like this do more to legitimize homophobia than it does damage to Rove.

[uppityperson]

180. How does having his sexual orientation become public "legitimize homophobia"?

I don't care about his orientation, but wondering how this does "more to legitimize homophobia than it does damage to Rove" and how it legitimized homophobia. 2 issues there and I'd appreciate answers. Thanks.

[Zalatix]

190. Here's my reasoning.

We're making a big issue of his alleged bisexuality... based on flimsy evidence no less. Are we not? A major part of homophobia is about making a big issue of one's homosexuality - and making them look bad in the process. How are we NOT making a big issue of Rove's sexual preferences, and how are we NOT trying to make him look bad in the process? If Karl Rove turned out to be heterosexual and we had always assumed he was homosexual, would this be a scandal? Why not? Why is there never a scandal about being heterosexual, but there is one about being homosexual? That just buys into the bullshit notion that homosexuality is somehow deviant.

Truthfully, I'm in the process of purging myself of the indoctrination that there is any such thing as "deviant" in a relationship between consenting adults.

[uppityperson]

213. Maybe you should work on purging yourself of "sexual preferences", and "lifestyle choice" vs orienta

orientation. Do you think sexual "orientation" is instead "preference" and/or "lifestyle choice"?

[Zalatix]

214. No, it was a misstatement.

[dixiegrrrrl]

202. first of all, he did not have a bi-sexual affair.

He is reported to have had an affair with another man.
the term for that is "homosexual" affair, not bi-sexual affair.
and there is nothing wrong with that in itself...it is the bigotry of of someone who is on record against gay rights
now being discovered as having a gay affair.
the bigotry is the issue.
Which it appears most people in this thread get.

[Marrah_G]

153. It's not a lifestyle choice

Words matter

Thank you

[Maven]

18. Evidence? Or is this just more gay-baiting homophobic bullshit?

Oh, I know: homophobia is OK if your target is someone we hate. Right?

[aquart]

22. If a gay man is raising millions to promote anti-gay legislation?

Then the homophobia is all on his side.

And he needs to be called on it for his deadly hypocrisy.

[Maven]

50. Using an unfounded gay rumor against someone is a Rovian tactic.

Hypocrisy?

[aquart]

191. Sometimes that petard just hoists.

[Puregonzo1188]

23. Thanks. That was my interpretation of this as well.

We don't like Karl Rove, so calling him gay or bisexual or whatever is oh so funny, just like when whoever wrote this trash was in Middle School.

[RufusTFirefly]

28. +1!

Similar to the misogyny that suddenly becomes acceptable when the target is a right-wing woman.

[just1voice]

32. It's gossip and people who respond to propaganda love gossip

They've been trained like Pavlovian dogs to respond to irrational and emotional stimuli for a reward of non-thinking instant gratification.

[xchrom]

34. DU can use the cover of 'hypocrisy' all they want.

it's still left wing homophobia.

he's a bad person -- must be gay or bi.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

40. That's bullshit

David Vitter's sexual indiscretions were with women. Did that stop anyone here from talking about him and the hypocrisy of his "family values"? How about Newt?

[NCTraveler]

61. That's how I see it. nt

[Rowdyboy]

100. +1000

[UnrepentantLiberal]

108. That's the first thing I thought.

Using gay as an insult is never acceptable.

[WilliamPitt]

59. "Oh, I know: homophobia is OK if your target is someone we hate. Right?"

Homophobia? Or a finger jabbed at brazen hypocrisy?

Hm.

[Maven]

87. Is there proof? Or just unsubstantiated rumor?

If there's no proof, that finger is merely jabbing at someone we don't like and calling him a queer.

How's that for hypocrisy?

[Iggo]

147. And if there's proof, then what?

Is it then okay to jab a finger at him and call him queer?

[Maven]

161. Of course not.

[Iggo]

168. Sorry. That was clumsy.

I see we agree.

[Maven]

170. No worries.

This thread is a cesspool.

[Marrah_G]

160. Comments like.....

"now we know why he was called turd blossom" are never okay.

[RZM]

82. Pretty much

You see it with race too, i.e. Herman Cain's 'minstrel show' and Harold Ford the 'uncle Tom.' It's an ugly phenomenon from people who should know better.

[Botany]

19. I will always remember when Jeff Gannon talked about protestors outside of ......

..... of Karl Rove's house a fact that was never in the press and I wondered if
Jeff Gannon was at Karl's house to see them (the protestors).

BTW one might be bisexual but if one is a man and is having sex w/ another
man that is homosexual sex. Although right now I'll file this story under the
internet rumor department and not give it a second thought.

[MineralMan]

20. Looking at the link and other links,

I see no information that demonstrates that any such affair exists. Does anyone have a link that does?

Lacking any such information, I have to discount this story.

[sinkingfeeling]

27. Won't Jeff Gannon be upset?

[get the red out]

29. Somebody's having sex with Rove

That's just sick...... Even if the guy does have a criminal record, surely he could do better!

[joeybee12]

30. Remember the gay male prostitute journalist plant?

There were always rumors about who he might be sleeping with because he obviously didn't get there by his own wits...I always assumed he was boinking Rove.

[abelenkpe]

35. Is this from the Onion? nt

[freshwest]

36. I'm disappointed. I thought he was involved with David Gregory, since they dance so well together.

[Marie Marie]

134. OK that was pretty funny....

[freshwest]

137. Don't *make* me post the video. I do that a lot, you know. LOL!

[Marie Marie]

146. Hey - whatever you feel is right freshwest.

[freshwest]

149. No, can't bear to see it again. Love your sig line, that was my motto years ago.

[Marie Marie]

171. Well thank you and won't you consider re-adopting it?

We could tag team him.

[McCamy Taylor]

37. I am glad Rove has someone to love. Now, can we get Siegelman out of jail?

[freshwest]

39. Without a presidential pardon, it looks bleak. And they don't do that until leaving office, right?

[MADem]

141. Gerald Ford didn't wait to give Nixon one. Obama has already granted some pardons.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20024629-503544.html

Eleven months into his 2nd year in office, Barack Obama granted his first presidential pardons. They went to 9 individuals for offenses ranging from conspiracy to distribute cocaine to mutilation of coins.

His first acts of Executive Clemency were announced in a press release from the Justice Department, home to the Office of the Pardon Attorney which processes and assesses requests for pardons - and then makes recommendations to the president.

The announcement contained no statement or explanation from Mr. Obama as to why he pardoned the 9 men and women selected, but White House spokesman Reid Cherlin was ready with an explanation:


"The president was moved by the strength of the applicants' post-conviction efforts at atonement, as well as their superior citizenship and individual achievements in the years since their convictions."

[freshwest]

142. Difference would be they admitted guilt and reformed. I doubt if Seigelman would do that, since he

Was railroaded. Perhaps if Obama is re-elected, a petition would be made.

Israel keeps on asking to have Pollack, who was convicted, released and three presidents have said, no, I think. No one is interested in doing it. That is a political matter, too.

Thanks for telling me about the pardons Obama has granted, those were good.

Ford and the Nixon pardon. He resigned in disgrace, it seemed tgood enough. In the end, it was not good enough.

In the court of public opinion, Nixon was worse than dead. He deserved to be impeached and it was going to happen. Nixon had already lost Agnew to scandal and Ford was considered 'nice.'

It was why Ford got his tail handed to him. At least we had 4 years of Carter. Then the nightmare returned.

[MADem]

184. It will be a tough call for POTUS.

My bet is that if he did pardon the guy, he'd do it later rather than sooner.

He might have been inclined to do it sooner if the accused had spent more of his appeal time in the pokey.

There is such a political patina on some pardons (Marc Rich, Cap "If I go down, everyone goes down" Weinberger, e.g.) that it's just easier to do them on the way out the door, and when the disloyal opposition cries, whines, expresses poutrage and gnashes those yellowing teeth, the incumbent can just flip 'em the bird and say "Fuck y'all--ah'm outta here!"

[liberalmuse]

41. I'm shocked...

...that anyone would have sex with Karl Rove.

[AnnieK401]

42. You had me at Karl Rove's bisexual affair

[99Forever]

47. Please don't insult bisexuality by ...

... insinuating that it is that piece of excrement's sexual orientation.


Thanks.

[JDPriestly]

48. I hate to have to defend Rove, but so far that all sounds like unfounded innuendo to me.

Like others on DU, I would be delighted, I think "Schadenfreude" is the word -- joy in someone else's misery, if it were true, but is there more evidence to back this up?

Is it just a rumor? The article carefully includes the disclaimer language "allegation," etc.

Why are these rumors being repeated on DU when based on so little evidence?

I hate it when people make insinuations about someone's sex life unless they have proof. And even then, what business do we have nosing into someone's sex life if they aren't in office. Rove is influential, but what if he is homosexual or bisexual? What does that have to do with anything important?

Sorry to be a party pooper, but I'm so tired of phony, manufactured sex scandals.

[left on green only]

55. Thank You for saying that. I probably hate the guy more than anyone else.....

.....but stooping to his level is not the way to defeat him.

[JDPriestly]

99. I agree. Even if it is true . . . . . why don't we leave people alone, good people,

bad people, let's let them have their personal lives as long as they aren't hurting anyone.

[TalkingDog]

199. Well, according to your criteria, Rove is fair game.

"let's let them have their personal lives as long as they aren't hurting anyone."

When you can say, with a straight face, that Rove hasn't hurt anyone, I'll agree that we should leave him to his personal life.

[JDPriestly]

220. OK. You have a point, but I hate to see meaningful political discussion

focused on sexual orientation or conduct unless it is a political issue.

I thought maybe you would mention that Rove isn't a very good person. I'd have to agree on that point too. But still, we have a lot of serious issues to think about in this country, and the latest sex scandal is just a distraction in my opinion.

[MADem]

144. People like salacious rumors that suggest intolerant people are engaging in the behavior they

publicly aver to abhor. People also do like sex scandals, they like to talk about sex, who's zoomin' who, that kind of thing. It's human nature.

It's unfortunate, though, when people try to suggest anything more than rank hypocrisy when they are giggling like schoolchildren over the rumors. When people start characterizing the person's orientation--which is entirely a function of who the person is, nothing that is a cause for favor or blame--as "good" or "bad" then you've got trouble.

Basically, if this rumor is true, the guy is just a massive hypocrite.

I will say that one source does not make an allegation. It just makes for a hugely ironic supposition.

I hope some reporter has the fortitude to ASK Rove about his personal relationship with this fellow--and not just the 'sexy party' parts.

Without a second or third source, and something a bit more solid than a blog, this rumor, even if true, will have a flash in the pan and then fade away.

[Bluenorthwest]

68. Your phrasing makes my skin crawl.

Just so's you know.

[johnfunk]

69. Good post, Balmer!

[Maven]

92. Wow, a crook, a liar AND cruising for gays?!

[SleeplessinSoCal]

52. Found this as well, asking Akbar to step down from Natl Bloggers Club

http://anexconsview.wordpress.com/2012/06/09/withdrawing-support-for-national-bloggers-club/

[Ian David]

56. Akbar says...

IT'S A TRAP!

?1318992465

[MADem]

156. I think this is the funniest post in this thread! nt

[The Wizard]

62. Stories of Rove's visits to Austin gay clubs have been reported for years.

No one ever took them seriously. Some people want to know if Karl is a top or bottom.

[yellowcanine]

70. "Some people want to know if ....." Stop it.

I do not want that information.

[ArnoldLayne]

81. I'd say top, as we say here in West Virginia he has some mighty fine purdy lips.

[begin_within]

63. Wouldn't a bisexual affair have to involve both sexes?

If it's just Karl and a guy, then that's a homosexual affair. Am I right or wrong?

[yellowcanine]

71. I am thinking at minimum it would have to be a threesome involving both sexes.

Nothing else makes sense.

[Doctor_J]

117. Karl had a phony marriage

thus a gay affair would make him bisexual, if he ever had sex with his beard.

[Marrah_G]

185. Wrong

I am a bi-sexual woman. If I have a relationship with a man I am a bi-sexual woman. If I have a relationship with a woman I am still a bi-sexual woman.

[TomClash]

73. Shades of Jeff Gannon . . . nt

[TomClash]

75. Hey, KKKarl . . .

. . . welcome to Chicago.

[Kingofalldems]

76. I hope someone covers this tonight

Too bad Keith is not around.

[Kingofalldems]

78. So did Rove have an office in the WH when Gannon visited?

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[johnfunk]

89. Yes.

n/t

[RandySF]

80. I heard this kind of thing in 2004.

Word was that he used to cruise Dupont Circle in DC.

[Dreamer Tatum]

86. "word was..." "Some say..." "I heard..."

Give me a motherfucking goddamned break.

95% of cellphones have video cameras. 99% have cameras.

Produce proof, or STFU and stop gay-baiting.

[Digit]

133. One of my best friends who is gay

Let me know Dupont Circle is known as the Fruit Loop. He has been my good friend for almost 20 years.

I will need to ask him next time we speak if he ever saw Rove cruising. Only for the hypocracy factor, mind you.

[RZM]

83. I've heard this type of thing before. Sounds like bullshit to me

That being said, gossip is a natural human tendency. And there's always public interest in who might or might not be in the closet. That's pretty much tabloid/celebrity stuff and there's not much anybody can do about it.

But I also believe in respecting privacy, even the privacy of public figures. I'm generally opposed to making the details of sex lives public knowledge when no laws have been broken. It's one thing if a partner goes public. It's quite another when everybody involved wants privacy. At that point, you're pretty much in paparazzi territory. I don't feel I have a need or right to know what Karl Rove does in private.

[Quantess]

90. Gross. Who would do Karl Rove?

[GCP]

91. I always figured he had the hots for Shrub

"Soon after being approved by the elder, Rove met the younger Bush, and he felt an immediate attraction. As he told Nicholas Lemann for a 2003 New Yorker profile:

I can literally remember what he was wearing: an Air National Guard flight jacket, cowboy boots, blue jeans, complete with the—in Texas you see it a lot—one of the back pockets will have a circle worn in the pocket from where you carry your tin of snuff, your tin of tobacco. He was exuding more charisma than any one individual should be allowed to have."

He had the vapors.

[leveymg]

96. Bad taste, bad breath, bad sex.

Nothing socially redeeming about that image.

[grasswire]

114. I've always suspected that W smells bad.

The aroma of metabolized alcohol mixed with narcissism is probably covered over with a spray of Axe. Ugh, ugh, ugh.

[leveymg]

125. Couldn't be as bad as Eau d' Karl

Fleur d' Merde for Men. Le Pew.

[Raster]

128. Hmmmm, do tell... KKKarl had a big ol' mancrush on Dubya who liked to play S&M dress up with....

James Bath and black hookers.

Now Condoleeza Rice makes perfect sense.

[dixiegrrrrl]

203. I REMEMBER that comment....and thought it strange at the time.

Thank you for the reminder.

Shrub exuding charisma??????.......yikes.

[snot]

97. I agree that this is apparently unsubstantiated and irrelevant speculation . . .

but it's the most fun I've had in a thread in a long while.

[meow2u3]

98. Karl Rove even sleeps with terrorists!

BWAHAHAHA!!!

[freshwest]

150. But they have to have their native soil in the coffin first... Oh, no, that's Romney. Never mind.

[hlthe2b]

102. I truly prefer to think of him....

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NOT AT ALL... Don't care about his sex life, except to be damned glad it doesn't involve me or anyone I care for.

[la la]

104. maybe it's a 3-way......

karl, ali and the little white board he totes around with him.....

eeeek!

[WillyT]

111. K & R !!!

[rhett o rick]

113. Why wont Anon find some smut on Rove's harddrive? nm

[aquart]

192. If he's gonna hack a hard drive can he please do Clarence Thomas?

A Supreme Court appointment is not a known cure for porn addiction.

[rhett o rick]

205. And it would be nice to get another Obama appointee.

Although it is probably too late for this term.

[Doctor_J]

116. Jeff Gannon was Rove's personal hooker

and was given a WH press pass for his services.

[valerief]

118. I thought Rove was gay, but, of course, could never say it, because he's part of a homophobic party.

[WinkyDink]

119. What is "bisexual" about a homosexual affair?

[Marrah_G]

197. I assume the article is saying he is attracted to both men and women

It's weird wording

[john89]

121. rove

what rove does in the privacy of his bedroom is his own business. However, I can see the hypocrisy, though.

[Doctor_J]

123. Some of the responders in this thread are implying

that we are not allowed to disparage a lying, hypocritical traitor - a grave threat to what's left of life in America - because he's a closeted gay.

[Raster]

132. You can disparage KKKarl Rove all you freakin' like. He most certainly deserves it.

But he deserves that scorn because he is a scoundrel, liar and cheat, not because of whom he may nor may not have sex with. Get it?

Disparage KKKarl because he is a a grave threat to America, NOT because he may or may not be a closeted Gay.

Get it?

[ruggerson]

140. The sad truth

is that a lot of them don't get it.

[Maven]

162. No, we're implying that calling him a closeted gay without any proof

simply because you hate him, is homophobic.

See the difference?

[Bluenorthwest]

208. Lame attempt at the old 'let's tie this around all their necks' gambit

That no longer plays around here. Get some new, sharper knives to hurl or just give up.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

124. Remember this?

&feature=player_detailpage#t=68s

[GeorgeGist]

126. Snort ...

Ali Akbar.

[butterfly77]

127. Let the sunshine!!!

[BeyondGeography]

129. All I can say is Allahu Akbar

[ruggerson]

130. This thread is rife with homophobic comments

But, hey, what else is new?

[Marrah_G]

154. I'm fucking horrified by the comments on this thread

and by those who think these "jokes" are funny.

[myrna minx]

198. This thread is horrifying. I can't say I'm suprised though.

[Historic NY]

131. The olde Turd blossom...........

who knew

[Rain Mcloud]

136. What I remember from yorn.

Hot military stud was working with conservative bloggers in discrediting Tom Daschle in South Dakota.
Daschle's opponent was John Thune.
Thunes Campaign Manager was a "good" friend of Karl Rove.
Whatshisname the campaign manager was so impressed with Guckert that he introduced him to Rove.
Fart Blossom apparently had press credentials issued to Guckert possibly as a reward for dirty tricks(so to speak at $250 an hour).
Guckert at that point had no work history in the journalism field so liberal bloggers dug into and revealed his past as a "top" escort. Oh,the irony!
Rumors of Rove's sexual orientation from the days of the tricky dick administration aroused suspicions in the minds of many that a pay-for-play situation had arisen in the steamy back rooms in DC above and beyond payment for sabotaging the Dems and for asking soft ball answers from Ari Fliescher framed in the form of questions.
I hope this helps,I know it helped my morale after the stolen 2000 erection.

[Smilo]

139. I know this can't be true

the only person Rove loves is himself!

[Raster]

143. Nah, he barely tolerates himself at best. KKKarl is a self-hating, self-loathing kind of guy.

And as we all know, you don't have to love someone -- or even LIKE someone -- to have sex with them.

[radicalliberal]

179. Does that make him ...

... an autosexual?

[elleng]

155. Saying the same letter contained rover allegations + Siegelman appeal/request?

Sounds unlikely to me.

[Fire Walk With Me]

157. =Did not need to know this=

[tularetom]

163. I guess there's someone for everyone, straight, gay or whatever

But jeezus, karl fucking ROVE?

Imagine somebody doin the pillsbury doughboy, all pudgy and squishy.

I don't know why it makes some of you want to puke. It makes me want to laugh.

[Alcibiades]

169. Here's more

This thread is too long, so i won't check to see if it's been posted before, but there's some other background at liberal grouch:

http://www.theliberalgrouch.com/2012/06/27/more-details-alleged-ali-akbarkarl-rove-gay-hookup/

[Enrique]

176. makes no sense

im not going to put much effort into making sense out of this, because it looks like a pretty scummy and homophobic story, but his motives for his attack are pretty obvious with no need for this crap to explain it.

[gkhouston]

177. Even if true, what accounts for all his other bizarre rants on Fox News? n/t

[libodem]

183. I always thought he

Was in love with Condi. What no secret love child?

[TriMera]

188. Threads like this sure do shed a lot

of light on the homophobia in this place. Wow, like moths to a flame.

[loveloveforever]

218. don't worry it's okay

He's republican. In this instance, we're allowed to make fun of him on the basis that CLOSET homosexuality = bad
</sarcasm>

[Louise1]

189. Spam deleted by OKNancy (MIR Team)

[PatrynXX]

193. after

having someone from AZ not know whats going on in his own state by declaring all porn is illegal in AZ last he checked (biggest of which is FTV Girls) X_X idiot. that and maybe they don't consider solo or g/g porn. (arguments over immigration laws not being enforced and I joked about that and he didn't know. bonk .. so hey why not Dick Cheney has a Lesbian daughter. I don't entirely like jokes on whether someone is gay or not. They pull this with Jorja Fox on CSI all the time. She's around 44 and not married. So... I'm 36, neither I'm I. I'm a bloody chicken and 2 . fall in line with a tori amos line why do the good girls always go out with the bad guys?? how should I know.. I'm a good guy

[Hubert Flottz]

201. Most republicans I know are Buy-sexual!

So ugly and repulsive they have to buy sex!

[avaistheone1]

216. Indeed. If they want it they have to buy it.

[Bluenorthwest]

204. What a shitty McCarthyite piece, filled with bigoted memes, insinuation and not a shred of fact

What sort of person writes a 'news report' that not only assumes facts not proven, but ascribes those unknowns as the motivation for an unrelated outburst on FoxNews? Answer: A McCarthyite sort of person.
This sort of crap is Rove type crap, this piece is as bad as Rove, which takes some effort.

[The Link]

206. Why is just about every individual we find to be revolting "accused" of being gay

or bisexual at some point?

Seems a tad homophobic to me.

[nashville_brook]

207. the old Velvet Mafia allegations, if true, are relevant only to the extent that Rove demagogued

on issues of sexual orientation. The fact that Rove has used sexual orientation as a wedge leaves him open to people saying, "whoa, wtf" when these allegations are made.

it's not homophobic to point out the hypocrisy.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2006_10/009656.php

[Bucky]

209. Fuck everyone of you who put erotic images of Karl Rove in my head just now

Damn you all to hell

[Fearless]

211. You can't have a bisexual affair with one person

You can have a "gay affair" if you are a man sleeping with a man or a woman sleeping with a woman. But you can't sleep with one who is both a man and a woman, so a bisexual affair is impossible unless it is with both a man and a woman... ie a threesome... or a series of affairs with both men and women.

You could BE bisexual and have an affair of a gay or straight fashion.

Soooo.... Karl Rove allegedly had a gay affair and is allegedly bisexual. I would state however that having sex with another man does not make one gay or bisexual at all. So this point is entirely muddled.

[cindyperry2010]

217. um barf and what

decent gay man would admit to an affair with that creep