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I was hungry, and you said... (Original Post) bigtree Feb 2017 OP
K&R n/t FSogol Feb 2017 #1
Perfect. n/t AwakeAtLast Feb 2017 #2
and they'll defund planned parenthood too.. mountain grammy Feb 2017 #3
Kick Hekate Feb 2017 #4
Wonderful AJT Feb 2017 #5
I keep trying and trying to bring this passage to the attention of the fundies. Stonepounder Feb 2017 #6
Ayep. Jesus for them looks like Thor from Avengers. Volaris Feb 2017 #14
Maybe I should post this on my trump voting neice's mountain grammy Feb 2017 #7
Wow gopiscrap Feb 2017 #8
Those fiends probably think they're already going to hell, and that they might as well keep at it tenorly Feb 2017 #9
bravo, eggsclent .good use of scripture AllaN01Bear Feb 2017 #10
BINGO! calimary Feb 2017 #11
Social Justice Jesus Beartracks Feb 2017 #12
Hmmm.... UncleTomsEvilBrother Feb 2017 #18
? I haven't seen that. Beartracks Feb 2017 #29
Might have to send that to my RW "Christian" sister. Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2017 #13
Great post! samplegirl Feb 2017 #15
As darkness closes out their lives, may they hear the banshee wails of the tormented dead, waiting NBachers Feb 2017 #16
But, but....Jebus rode into Mecca on a Raptor and slayed the false prophets... Moostache Feb 2017 #17
Political manipulators are not only corrupting Hortensis Feb 2017 #19
Romans 13 may be applied to politics Thav Feb 2017 #23
Churches themselves say large numbers who identify with them Hortensis Feb 2017 #25
Know very little, or just know the parts that are "important" to them. Thav Feb 2017 #27
As they sit there with their smug smirks getting Gov Paychecks.. working Cha Feb 2017 #20
Right on! burrowowl Feb 2017 #21
Thanks for posting this! nt raccoon Feb 2017 #22
Pretty much the entire book of Matthew is anathema MineralMan Feb 2017 #24
K&r Land Shark Feb 2017 #26
Mathew 24:40 is the name of our outreach at my church. lynintenn Feb 2017 #28

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
6. I keep trying and trying to bring this passage to the attention of the fundies.
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 01:42 AM
Feb 2017

But they act like it doesn't even exist. Of course these are the same people who refuse to believe the Jesus was a swarthy Middle Easterner, probably spoke Aramaic, and was born and raised a Jew. They want him to be white, speak perfect English, and be Christian. And someone who hates anyone who isn't white.

tenorly

(2,037 posts)
9. Those fiends probably think they're already going to hell, and that they might as well keep at it
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 02:08 AM
Feb 2017

But I believe instead that we come back, and that what we do - or applaud doing - to others, is what may befall us in our own next lives. And the more power we have to do harm, if so exercised, the worse it will be.

If this proves to be the case, most GOP congresscritters are looking at something between Afghanistan and Haiti (and at the bottom of the social ladder in those places).

That's what I think anyway.

calimary

(81,283 posts)
11. BINGO!
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 02:25 AM
Feb 2017

BINGO!

BINGO!

BINGO!

BINGO!BINGO!BINGO!BINGO!BINGO!BINGO!BINGO!BINGO!BINGO!BINGO!BINGO!BINGO!BINGO!BINGO!BINGO!BINGO!

Beartracks

(12,814 posts)
12. Social Justice Jesus
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 02:33 AM
Feb 2017

I hope it's not inappropriate to post this, but this design is in my online shop:



https://www.zazzle.com/z/3c81m

I must've uploaded it a couple years ago now when the the Party of No was doing all they could to block progress. The artwork is from a fellow shopkeeper acquaintance.

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18. Hmmm....
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 03:57 AM
Feb 2017

...for some reason that reactionary Blue Lives Matter tee makes me avoid the breadth of the site. Nah.

Beartracks

(12,814 posts)
29. ? I haven't seen that.
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 04:29 PM
Feb 2017

Other shops' designs show up on product pages as "other designs you might be interested in." I guess that's where you saw that? I haven't seen the one you're talking about.

Zazzle has shopkeepers of all sorts of persuasions. I don't know how the "you might be interested" designs are chosen. Probably by keywords. I know "justice" and "liberal" are among the keywords of the Jesus design. If those are included as keywords in the Blue Lives design, then that could definitely show up as a thumbnail on Jesus' product page. But I can assure you, the Blue Lives isn't mine.

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Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
13. Might have to send that to my RW "Christian" sister.
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 02:34 AM
Feb 2017

Maybe along with one reminding her what her pope says about similar issues.

Not that it'll do any good. Brainwashed.

NBachers

(17,110 posts)
16. As darkness closes out their lives, may they hear the banshee wails of the tormented dead, waiting
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 03:19 AM
Feb 2017

to rend and tear their souls for eternity. In their final short moments, as they lose control of their bowels, may they know the searing magnitude of what awaits them.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
17. But, but....Jebus rode into Mecca on a Raptor and slayed the false prophets...
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 03:23 AM
Feb 2017

And the "real" Jebus is all-powerful and a white conservative don't-cha-know????

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. Political manipulators are not only corrupting
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 04:08 AM
Feb 2017

American conservatives to the point that traditional conservatism doesn't exist as a political force, but have been corrupting them away from their religious precepts as well.

The leadership of many churches know this all too well and have tried for years to persuade people to return to the teachings of their church and resist the messages of propagandists; but too many ministers and board members share their congregants' weaknesses and others won't speak out because they fear losing attendance and being fired.

How many of the good Christians eagerly spreading all those lies for years about Hillary Clinton, a good Christian herself, worried that their behaviors were detesable to God and specifically enjoined against? To the contrary, a whole fake-news media industry has grown up to feed the appetite for political lies that has become such an integral part of their political being.

Proverbs 6:16-19
There are six things the Lord hates,
seven that are detestable to him:
haughty eyes,
a lying tongue,
hands that shed innocent blood,
a heart that devises wicked schemes,
feet that are quick to rush into evil,
a false witness who pours out lies
and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.

Nothing anywhere in the Bible about how this and dozens of other passages don't apply to politics.

Thav

(946 posts)
23. Romans 13 may be applied to politics
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 10:23 AM
Feb 2017

however, if your leaders are IN politics and do not follow the teachings of Christ, then its hard to call them Christians, and they should be voted out. But, "christians" have a hard time recognizing this. There are more Randians in the republican party than Christians. I do know that the bible says a LOT about having a god before Him.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
25. Churches themselves say large numbers who identify with them
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 12:28 PM
Feb 2017

actually know very little about their religions, evangelical especially.

The passage you chose makes me cringe as a reminder of the depths good authoritarians can be brought to by bad leaders. We have friends who believe Satan and his servants literally walk the earth, but they always seem blind to what to me would be flashing red lights in the behaviors of some right-wing leaders.

Thav

(946 posts)
27. Know very little, or just know the parts that are "important" to them.
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 02:14 PM
Feb 2017

Some Christians get all up in arms when you start quoting bible verses at them that go against what they want to believe and what box they want Jesus to live in. They often dismiss God's word as it doesn't support their world view.

I do believe Satan is active in the world, whether literally walking the earth or not. I also believe that he put America to the test with Trump, and plenty of Americans fell for the bait. Matthew 4, 8-11:

Again, the devil took Him up on an exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. And he said to Him, “All these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me.” Then Jesus said to him, “Away with you, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve.’”

I'm not saying Trump is Satan, I do not believe that. The claims Trump made sound exceedingly like the promises made in this passage. "I will bring coal back. I will restore the dignity of america. I will make america great again. All these I will do if you fall down and worship me!" Ok, so he didn't' say the last part, but he is acting like people need to fall on their faces and worship him. The frightening reality is, some people do.

I agree with you that a lot of right-wingers are ignoring the red strobe lights and exceedingly loud klaxons because they are allured with gold and promises. If Jesus came back today and started teaching in much the way he was, the right wing would denounce him, calling him a "libtard" and telling him to "go back to mexico."

Cha

(297,256 posts)
20. As they sit there with their smug smirks getting Gov Paychecks.. working
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 04:21 AM
Feb 2017

for the People(supposedly)with their free Gov Health Insurance, in their cozy houses, drinking and toasting to taking away services for the poor.

There's got to be a special place in metaphorical hell just for these types of sociopathic assholes.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
24. Pretty much the entire book of Matthew is anathema
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 11:13 AM
Feb 2017

to right-wing fundamentalists. They don't really want to hear what Jesus was reported to have said. It's inconvenient for them to have that stuff in front of them.

So, you'll rarely hear verses from Matthew read from the pulpits in fundamentalist churches. Instead, you'll more often see the letters written by Paul to various early churches. Poor Paul was afflicted with hemorrhoids or something and was in a perpetual bad mood, so his words tend to reflect the sentiments of the right-wingers, who think Christianity is only for white Republicans, really.

Such folks are actually Paulists. They give only lip service to the main character in Christianity, and avoid dwelling on the teachings recorded in the New Testament.

lynintenn

(646 posts)
28. Mathew 24:40 is the name of our outreach at my church.
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 02:15 PM
Feb 2017

It has helped thousands of people over the years . We do love and live it.

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