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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 12:32 PM Feb 2017

Webb: Democratic Party has moved 'very far to the left'

BY REBECCA SAVRANSKY - 02/12/17 10:37 AM EST

Former Sen. Jim Webb (D-Va.) on Sunday said the Democratic Party has moved "very far to the left" over the past five or six years.

In an interview on NBC's "Meet The Press," Webb said the Democrats are looking at 2018 and they "don't have a message."

"When you can't have a Jefferson-Jackson dinner, which was a primary celebratory event of the Democratic Party for years, because Jefferson and Jackson were slaveholders," Webb, a candidate in the 2016 Democratic primary race, said.

"They were also great Americans in their day. Something different has happened to the Democratic Party."

Webb said the Democratic Party's message has "been shaped toward identity politics. And they've lost the key part of their base," he said.

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http://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/319131-webb-dem-party-has-moved-very-far-to-the-left

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Webb: Democratic Party has moved 'very far to the left' (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2017 OP
Webb is delusional. guillaumeb Feb 2017 #1
Fuck Webb, he's a republican bravenak Feb 2017 #2
THIS n/t. Greybnk48 Feb 2017 #6
I totally agree... Jim Webb became a Democrat TheDebbieDee Feb 2017 #29
yeah, well... it IS Jim Webb, remember. pangaia Feb 2017 #3
Yeah right. Missn-Hitch Feb 2017 #4
Jeez, the only thing missing from this theaocp Feb 2017 #5
Left. is. good. ananda Feb 2017 #7
I was taking my first sips of coffee, but I believe he said rufus dog Feb 2017 #8
And he says that like it's a bad thing... Wounded Bear Feb 2017 #9
that is absurd anarch Feb 2017 #10
By today's standards, Nixon was liberal loyalsister Feb 2017 #25
I like Webb hollowdweller Feb 2017 #11
If over and over he's carried water for racism, why the hell do you like him? The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2017 #13
I hate him as much as the rest of the creeps who swift boated John Kerry karynnj Feb 2017 #31
If you believe Republicans, the Democrats have ALWAYS 'moved very far to the left'... JHB Feb 2017 #12
And so, Webb begins his publc journey toward switching parties. stopbush Feb 2017 #14
Switching parties AGAIN MiniMe Feb 2017 #15
That's what I'm wondering Yupster Feb 2017 #17
Webb is part of the problem Horse with no Name Feb 2017 #16
Great is in the eye of the beholder qanda Feb 2017 #18
Snort Solly Mack Feb 2017 #19
Jim Webb is a Republican trolling the Democratic party tenderfoot Feb 2017 #20
If we're playing Jamaal510 Feb 2017 #21
They're hypocrites JHan Feb 2017 #22
Yeah, just last week we took over several factories leftstreet Feb 2017 #23
FO Webb-DINO workinclasszero Feb 2017 #24
How dare Democrats believe in economic fairness! hrmjustin Feb 2017 #26
His TV must broken, because vlyons Feb 2017 #27
Interesting that they are incapable of ... PsychoBabble Feb 2017 #28
In what universe has this happened? I want to go to there. alarimer Feb 2017 #30
Why is he on Meet the Press? Bleacher Creature Feb 2017 #32
Dear Jim Webb ... NurseJackie Feb 2017 #33
Oh, fuck off, you phony asshole! hatrack Feb 2017 #34
Does he mean this far left? stevebreeze Feb 2017 #35
If that's the case then blame the opposition, you pathetic RINO. BlueStater Feb 2017 #36

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
1. Webb is delusional.
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 12:35 PM
Feb 2017

The GOP is so far to the right that a center right Democratic Party, the current version, seems to him to be far left.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
2. Fuck Webb, he's a republican
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 12:36 PM
Feb 2017

I have no idea why he is so bitter that we dont revere slaveholders but I can guess!

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
29. I totally agree... Jim Webb became a Democrat
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 04:01 PM
Feb 2017

in the late 90s when the Republicans became openly Euro-centric.

Missn-Hitch

(1,383 posts)
4. Yeah right.
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 12:37 PM
Feb 2017

1. Way too early to make such a claim.

2. The base, you say? Hell - just wait until you get a load of the republican legislation coming down the pipeline.

3. Just go and be a republican Mr. Webb.

theaocp

(4,237 posts)
5. Jeez, the only thing missing from this
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 12:47 PM
Feb 2017

is him telling the party to move to the right. The best part of waking up is that shiv stuck in your back. Damn.

anarch

(6,535 posts)
10. that is absurd
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 01:00 PM
Feb 2017

Everything (except, as I perceive it, the general will of the people...especially the younger generations) has moved so far to the right that many of, say, Richard Nixon's policies would be considered too liberal to even be entertained by the Democratic party today.

Personally, as far as all that's concerned I'd be more aligned with Socialism than even the more-to-the left current Democratic party tenets. I feel that it's almost taboo to even talk about truly socialist ideas--there's literally no place for it in U.S. politics, and centrism has ruled the day for quite some time as far as the Democratic party platform--which I suppose it has to at this point, just from the perspective of realism.

I hope we will get through this desperate attempt by the far-right fascists to hold on to their power in defiance of the will of the people; I think if we do, if this current bunch of cheating, usurping bastards don't pass legislation that further entrenches their illegitimate control over the electoral process, we have a chance to really make some progress in the future--the fascists' pigheaded idiocy and incompetence are on full display...if they don't kill us all or do something to change the rules/destroy the foundations of the democratic process entirely, demographic changes over the next few generations will make them irrelevant. They are not the majority! At all!

Maybe someday things will shift, but for now there isn't any relevant (or even especially noticeable) "very far to the left" voice in American politics. Even the most liberal of liberals seem pretty well in line with capitalist norms to me.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
25. By today's standards, Nixon was liberal
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 03:42 PM
Feb 2017

He created the EPA and supported a government funded universal basic income.

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
11. I like Webb
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 01:05 PM
Feb 2017

And partly he's right.

But over and over he's sort of carried water for racism.

In that way he's a bit like an un crazy Trump. Maybe a bit more of an economic populist than most dems but way too tone deaf on race issues.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,719 posts)
13. If over and over he's carried water for racism, why the hell do you like him?
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 01:14 PM
Feb 2017

When somebody supports racism there's not much to like, IMO.

The Democratic Party isn't moving to the far left; it's been desperately clinging to the middle and trying to avoid being dragged to the right by the likes of Jim Webb, whom I cordially invite to go fuck himself.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
31. I hate him as much as the rest of the creeps who swift boated John Kerry
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 04:09 PM
Feb 2017

His 2004 oped was dishonest and disreputable and it was written when JK was our nominee. Yes, I know JK endored him in 2006 when he was the primary candidate most likely to win the seat. That simply shows how serious and good a man JK is. As to Webb's 30 years of hatred, it was dysfunctional.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
12. If you believe Republicans, the Democrats have ALWAYS 'moved very far to the left'...
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 01:11 PM
Feb 2017

You'd think Democrats had been running a ticket headed by Abbie Hoffman (campaign theme: "Steal this country&quot with Bobby Seale as his VP and Commander Cinque as his chief aide and advisor. And tweet-yelling at anyone who doesn't appreciate Paul Krassner's line of inspirational poetry.

Let's also remember that Republicans opposed all of the "great in ear day" achievements of the Democratic Party.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
14. And so, Webb begins his publc journey toward switching parties.
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 01:15 PM
Feb 2017

Which is no doubt but prelude to him seeking political office again.

MiniMe

(21,716 posts)
15. Switching parties AGAIN
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 02:06 PM
Feb 2017

GWB make him switch from Repuke to Dem, so he was very to the right of the dem party

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
17. That's what I'm wondering
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 02:10 PM
Feb 2017

He's retired.

So why criticize your party? What's he up to?

Party switch? Wants a job in Trump admin?

qanda

(10,422 posts)
18. Great is in the eye of the beholder
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 02:17 PM
Feb 2017

To black people a lot of the people that whites consider heros were either our oppressors or the enablers of our oppressors. You can celebrate them if you want, but I won't be upset if my invitation gets lost in the mail.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
21. If we're playing
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 02:57 PM
Feb 2017

"identity politics", then what is the GOP doing as they routinely craft messages directed at CINOs (Christians in Name Only) against Muslims, gays, Jews, etc.? Why are they the ones who are suspiciously creating voter ID laws that are in mostly non-White areas?
The GOP loves "Democrats" like JW who look the other way when it comes to what they do, and are more content on blaming his supposed party.

leftstreet

(36,108 posts)
23. Yeah, just last week we took over several factories
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 03:25 PM
Feb 2017

beheaded a handful of CEOs, and then distributed healthcare to all citizens

Just so lefty!



Where do they get these dumbfuckers?

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
26. How dare Democrats believe in economic fairness!
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 03:48 PM
Feb 2017

How dare Democrats believe in civil rights!

How dare Democrats believe in sending as many people to college as we can!

How dare Democrats believe in keeping families together!

How dare Democrats believe in clean water, food, and air!


What the hell is wrong with us!

Absolutely nothing! Fuck Jim Webb and the horse he rode on!

Thus endeth the lesson!

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
27. His TV must broken, because
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 03:48 PM
Feb 2017

he's missed all the marches, protests, and town halls going on across the country.

PsychoBabble

(837 posts)
28. Interesting that they are incapable of ...
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 03:51 PM
Feb 2017

Realizing that Conservatives have dragged Repubs waaaaay to the RIGHT.

stevebreeze

(1,877 posts)
35. Does he mean this far left?
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 08:19 PM
Feb 2017

Supporting the environment protection agency?
supporting OSHA?
The Clean Air act?
The Clean Water act?
National Health Care?
National Minimum income?
So who WAS the far left socialist commie that supported all these thing.? Richard M.Nixon.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
36. If that's the case then blame the opposition, you pathetic RINO.
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 08:31 PM
Feb 2017

They lost their fucking minds and made a misogynistic sexual predator with no political experience the face of their party. And you wonder why we want as little to do with them as possible?

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