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Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 01:48 PM Feb 2017

I wonder what the odds may be that Trump would resign his office

We all expect that he is too vainglorious, too egomaniacal, to cede the Presidency.

But that assumes a strong Trump. I don't see that at all.

I see his family taking baby steps back from the Washington scene. They want their Underground Grifter lifestyle back.

I see his staff cannibalizing itself.

I see the progressives and his own former constituents forming up as formidable obstacles to his fascist worldview. I see world leaders and millions of their people creating their own wall against this regrettable regression in American values.

And I see a very vulnerable, weak, tired, uninspired, uninformed Trump dialing it in. 2 unscheduled vacations in 3 weeks on the job.

I think the odds continue to increase, that Trump walks away from the job, blaming others, thinking he can simply resume his former lifestyle and regain his life.

Fat chance, Nazi man.

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I wonder what the odds may be that Trump would resign his office (Original Post) Mr. Ected Feb 2017 OP
I agree with you. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he left for Trump Tower and never came back. Vinca Feb 2017 #1
It wouldn't surprise me if Air Force One... Cracklin Charlie Feb 2017 #4
While there are not really very many parallels between him and Nixon, PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2017 #2
The odds 'are' increasing. Even professional bookies are weighing in. WePurrsevere Feb 2017 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author MFM008 Feb 2017 #5
President Pence? Locutusofborg Feb 2017 #6
He took a job we all knew he'd despise Dem2 Feb 2017 #7

Vinca

(50,273 posts)
1. I agree with you. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he left for Trump Tower and never came back.
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 01:58 PM
Feb 2017

The whole "being POTUS" thing has put a crimp in his lifestyle. Now he's little more than a very stupid, fat bird in a gilded cage and being the butt of jokes 24/7 is the icing on the cake. I can imagine a toddler-like temper tantrum where he exits for good.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
4. It wouldn't surprise me if Air Force One...
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 03:07 PM
Feb 2017

Came back empty from Florida.

I just hope they go to New York, pick up the real President, and bring her back to D.C.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,861 posts)
2. While there are not really very many parallels between him and Nixon,
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 02:13 PM
Feb 2017

we do need to look back to Nixon's presidency and resignation to get a sense of how it might play out.

(This is a bit long, but bear with me.)

Nixon kept on rolling along, stonewalling everything and everybody connected to the Watergate thing for quite a long time. And for a long time the Washington Post was the ONLY paper in the country pursuing this, to the point where most people thought the Post was beating a dead horse and should give up already. I no longer recall (although I was an adult then, living in the DC area, and paying pretty good attention to all this) just what triggered the Watergate hearings, but they were the game-changer. I believe all three networks covered them, and back in that primitive era before cable, there was nothing else to watch on television.

Then came the revelation about the Oval Office taping system. Once that was known, Nixon's time in office was near its end. Then, of course, Nixon and his cronies tried to refuse to give up the tapes, and even tried to erase one crucial portion, which became the Smoking Gun. It's also somewhat forgotten that in March of 1974 Nixon was named as an unindicted co-conspirator when seven of his aides were indicted in the Watergate conspiracy.

It was not until early August of that year, when Republican leaders came to Nixon and told him that he would be impeached an removed for office that he finally got it, and he resigned office.

Now turn our attention to Trump and all he's done so far. Right now Republicans still hold a firm majority in the House and Senate, and at present they are not about to consider removing him from office. It appears that they think that they can contain his worst damage, while he brings about the things they have wet dreams about, such as the wall, such as restricting or banning all Muslim immigration and the entry of any refugees, no matter where they are from (unless they are persecuted Christians). They want huge tax cuts for the rich. They want what they see as business destroying regulations killed. They don't give a flying fuck if poor people don't have health care, if old people lose their pensions and social security. And so they'll cheerfully do their best to implement all sorts of horrors on the rest of us.

Meanwhile, the courts are standing firm against Trump on the Muslim ban, and is he pissed! I believe other law-suits about his other executive orders have also been filed, and I suspect he'll lose on most of them.

But he'll hang firm as long as possible. To think that he never really wanted to be President is completely wrong, in my view. He always thought, How hard could it be? He always figured it would be a bit like starting construction on a new building or golf course somewhere in the world, and he'd do a big photo op and others would do all the hard work. He still doesn't understand how much responsibility a President really has, and to what extent this is a full time job. More than full time.

I see a couple of possible scenarios for him to leave office more or less voluntarily:
* At some point he simply decides it's not worth it, and manufactures some sort of excuse to resign (spend more time with Barron).
* He so humiliates himself and the country by doing something totally inappropriate on a state visit (can you see him trying to do the power hand-shake with Angela Merkel or the Queen of England?) and resigns in a huff, never quite understanding that what he did was sot totally wrong.
*He pushes us to the very edge of war, possibly even a nuclear war, and responsible Republicans make it clear he needs to resign for the good of the country.

Actually, that last one may impel Republicans to invoke the 25th Amendment. Either way he'd be gone.

You are absolutely right that however his administration plays out, he will always blame others for whatever goes wrong, and never take a scintilla of responsibility.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
3. The odds 'are' increasing. Even professional bookies are weighing in.
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 02:13 PM
Feb 2017
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/trump-impeachment-bets-234931
Snip...
“With such little political experience and a rocky start in the White House, it’s understandable people have their doubts on Trump,” Davey said. “We’re currently offering 4-to-1 for Trump to be impeached in the first six months.”


Snip...
“Trump is the gift that keeps on giving,” Paddy Power’s Davey said. “We’ve got a bonanza of betting specials on The Donald. When Trump took to Twitter this week to defend [daughter] Ivanka after Nordstrom dropped her clothing line, we were out with a [betting] market on next retailer to drop the Ivanka brand next.” (The current favorites are TJ Maxx at 4-to-1, Walmart at 5-to-1 and Amazon at 6-to-1.)

Perhaps the most unusual —and certainly most lurid — wager is the 4-to-1 odds offered by Paddy Power that the alleged Russian video of Trump outlined in the dossier compiled by a former British intelligence agent will appear on a pornographic website.

“Trump's character has captured the imagination of the public” overseas said Davey, who compared following his presidency to “watching your favorite soap [opera].”

Response to Mr. Ected (Original post)

Locutusofborg

(525 posts)
6. President Pence?
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 03:13 PM
Feb 2017

In my humble opinion, religious fanatic Mike Pence would be worse than Trump and since he's a professional politician, Pence would stand a better chance of being reelected. Hopefully Trump is one term and loses in a landslide and takes down the Republican majority in Congress with him.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
7. He took a job we all knew he'd despise
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 03:23 PM
Feb 2017

He doesn't actually comprehend "hard work" the way the rest of us do. He's already made his job more difficult by thinking he would just sign a bunch of orders and laws and watch the glorious results. NO. That's not what happens when you were "elected" by a minority of the voters while simultaneously being under a cloud of illegitimacy due to Russia's efforts (and frankly Comey's) to help ensure your "win".

Not only is quitting the logical thing to do, it's the right thing to do for the survival of our country.

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