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Wed Feb 15, 2017, 05:15 PM

Why did Russian military jets buzz a US destroyer in the Black Sea ... ?

Russia tests the waters: Military jets buzz a US destroyer in the Black Sea, Moscow tests a new cruise missile in violation of arms treaty and deploys a spy ship off the coast of Delaware as Trump's NSA is in disarray

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4224832/Military-jets-buzzed-destroyer-Black-Sea.html



Russia Deploys Missile, Violating Treaty and Challenging Trump

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/world/europe/russia-cruise-missile-arms-control-treaty.html?_r=0




There's a Russian spy ship hanging out off the East Coast

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141702597




Russian spy ship patrolling off U.S. East Coast.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028649094



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Reply Why did Russian military jets buzz a US destroyer in the Black Sea ... ? (Original post)
In_The_Wind Feb 2017 OP
Aristus Feb 2017 #1
In_The_Wind Feb 2017 #2
Aristus Feb 2017 #3
In_The_Wind Feb 2017 #6
Cha Feb 2017 #20
msanthrope Feb 2017 #4
0rganism Feb 2017 #5
toddwv Feb 2017 #15
0rganism Feb 2017 #17
Blue_Tires Feb 2017 #7
Sherman A1 Feb 2017 #9
In_The_Wind Feb 2017 #14
yagotme Feb 2017 #13
jeanmarc Feb 2017 #8
Cognitive_Resonance Feb 2017 #10
jeanmarc Feb 2017 #12
unblock Feb 2017 #11
herding cats Feb 2017 #16
pinboy3niner Feb 2017 #18
herding cats Feb 2017 #19

Response to In_The_Wind (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2017, 05:19 PM

1. Intercontinental dick-measuring.

Putin knows Trump isn't going to do anything about it.

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Response to Aristus (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 15, 2017, 05:26 PM

2. A pissing contest! Is 45 down wind?

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Response to In_The_Wind (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 15, 2017, 05:31 PM

3. I hope so.

Although the only thing that decreases my desire to piss on Trump is the possibility that he might enjoy it.

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Response to Aristus (Reply #3)

Wed Feb 15, 2017, 05:41 PM

6. I agree with you.

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Response to Aristus (Reply #1)

Thu Feb 16, 2017, 01:28 AM

20. Nicely framed, Aristus

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Response to In_The_Wind (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2017, 05:35 PM

4. Because they could. nt

 

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Response to In_The_Wind (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2017, 05:38 PM

5. giving Trump some ez ways to "stand up to Russia" or whatever

right now the big story is how the Russians (may have) compromised our national government at the highest levels

Trump is going to need to do something about this to save his presidency, and idiot or not he does represent a significant asset involving significant resource investment for Putin.

if i were Putin i'd do a few ... errr... "uncomfortable" things that i don't mind walking back to help Trump look stronger

after strenuous "netotiations" Putin can
apologize for the flyby
withdraw the spy ship
cancel some future cruise missile tests
no big loss, maybe even saves some $$$
and Trump can claim that YUGE diplomatic victory over Russia he needs to help rescue his hopelessly degenerate presidency

that's how i see it playing out

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Response to 0rganism (Reply #5)

Wed Feb 15, 2017, 10:52 PM

15. That's a logical idea.

However, I think doing it just to embarrass the US and show that we have a weak president who is all talk and no action is also just as likely.

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Response to toddwv (Reply #15)

Wed Feb 15, 2017, 11:54 PM

17. that kind of early victory lap seems un-Vladlike to me

from what i've seen so far, Vlad plays the long game and he's damn good at it
solidifying a puppet government in what used to be one of his country's major international rivals would be a worthy use of his time

i just don't imagine a scenario where Putin intentionally weakens his greatest asset for the sake of ego
maybe if doing so gave him an edge in an upcoming election or political struggle, but from what i gather he's got his domestic political situation under control (and under a jackboot, too).

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Response to In_The_Wind (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2017, 05:41 PM

7. The buzzings and the spy ships are fairly routine

it's the missile that is the true concern...

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #7)

Wed Feb 15, 2017, 05:50 PM

9. Agreed

The missiles are the issue.

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Response to Sherman A1 (Reply #9)

Wed Feb 15, 2017, 09:59 PM

14. The missile launch worries me most of all.

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #7)

Wed Feb 15, 2017, 08:39 PM

13. Agreed.

Russia has been spying on us since, well, ages. Probably industrial revolution era, at least.

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Response to In_The_Wind (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2017, 05:44 PM

8. Piss tape release imminent

I think at some point, Putin is just going to destroy Donald and not even care about the US response.

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Response to jeanmarc (Reply #8)

Wed Feb 15, 2017, 05:57 PM

10. Yes, if it becomes apparent Comrade Trump is no longer useful (e.g. lifting sanctions) Pootie will

destroy him in a way that causes maximum damage and disruption to the U.S. government. The games with buzzing U.S. Navy, deploying spy ships, and violating arms treaties may be designed to stir the pot within the U.S. government. Perhaps even to smoke out anti-Russian hard-liners within the ranks of the defense and IC establishment so they can be marginalized or eliminated.

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Response to Cognitive_Resonance (Reply #10)

Wed Feb 15, 2017, 08:10 PM

12. All of this

Why not create a nice Piss Pussy Riot?

Comrade Donald is useless to everyone: GOP, Russians, Oil interests, etc.

He's so fucking insane and ignorant, even Putin has no use for him.

Might as well blow things up after the one or two things he needs are done.

But Vlad is getting impatient.

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Response to In_The_Wind (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2017, 05:58 PM

11. strutting. russia's international influence has gone up bigly thanks to punking the u.s. election.

they turned the "sole remaining superpower" into just another puppet state.

they are advertising to the world that they can do whatever they want, and everyone best answer to them, and ignore the u.s.


donnie's mere presence in the white house is costing america bigly.

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Response to In_The_Wind (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2017, 11:02 PM

16. The real question is, why hasn't Trump said anything about any of this yet?

What'll it take to get a response out of the WH? Does Putin have to go on TV saying clearly his hands are much, much bigger than Trump's, or laugh at Trumps tiny, pathetic little crowds?

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Response to herding cats (Reply #16)

Thu Feb 16, 2017, 12:06 AM

18. I'm not sure he'd react even if the Russians made rude gestures

Trump Says He'll Attack Iran Over Rude Gestures - New York Magazine
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/09/trump-says-hell-attack-iran-over-rude-gestures.html

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #18)

Thu Feb 16, 2017, 12:17 AM

19. Give it time.

I'm pretty sure Putin is planning a state mandated mooning of the US next.

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