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Grown2Hate

(2,013 posts)
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 04:43 AM Feb 2017

I had NEVER seen this Milo person before tonight...

...and I have to say... he is just the male, gay, Ann Coulter, right? I get the EXACT same vibe... this general sense of the fact that they don't REALLY believe what they're saying to be true, but just THRIVE off of the attention that the expression gives them? The jeering from the crowd, the negativity from the other guests... they appear to FEED off of it like mother's milk. Or am I crazy?

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I had NEVER seen this Milo person before tonight... (Original Post) Grown2Hate Feb 2017 OP
I think you are correct. redwitch Feb 2017 #1
I'd never seen him before, but I've read quotes Warpy Feb 2017 #2
Spot on. As usual :) Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2017 #10
Most people haven't seen him. bathroommonkey76 Feb 2017 #3
I watched it and didn't see any big deal, he was a flub. braddy Feb 2017 #4
Right? I was expecting to see this VICIOUS, Alt-Right, hateful, Grown2Hate Feb 2017 #8
He saves mercuryblues Feb 2017 #26
Pretty pathetic Lotusflower70 Feb 2017 #5
I think he's putting the fake on. njhoneybadger Feb 2017 #6
So do I. He's just so over-the-top ridiculous. Dave Starsky Feb 2017 #22
Accept him for what he is... world wide wally Feb 2017 #7
I don't think you're crazy. Like a child lacking affection arthritisR_US Feb 2017 #9
Like the 5 year old who says "f*ck" gets him attention. Even if it's negative attention. KittyWampus Feb 2017 #16
Very true. His lack of sincerity and his need arthritisR_US Feb 2017 #18
attention whore.LOOK AT ME. another turnip. pansypoo53219 Feb 2017 #11
That's milo... Raster Feb 2017 #12
Yes, good comparison to Ann Coulter, both are professional trolls that thrive from attention. n/t PoliticAverse Feb 2017 #13
Hence the best response is to deprive them of the negative emotional reaction they crave- KittyWampus Feb 2017 #15
I've never seen them together... Thor_MN Feb 2017 #14
And Maher has given him the gift of VISBILITY and elevated him! NurseJackie Feb 2017 #17
My first inclination is to agree with you in spirit, but honestly, I was almost excited to watch Grown2Hate Feb 2017 #20
He already had a platform. Making his ideas look foolish on TV was better than not. JCanete Feb 2017 #23
That and it is a money making gig for him. Zing Zing Zingbah Feb 2017 #19
He's worse. It's like Coulter2.0 He targets people and then sics his followers salin Feb 2017 #21
i have no time for assholes such as this. spanone Feb 2017 #24
I had not seen him before, either. logosoco Feb 2017 #25
agree with everything. Yeah, kid is troubled. Hope he finds another road. nt JCanete Feb 2017 #27
I was thinking the same thing. He is in it to get rich. Pure scum. nt Quixote1818 Feb 2017 #28
Larry And Malcolm were brilliant on the show. roamer65 Feb 2017 #29

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
2. I'd never seen him before, but I've read quotes
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 04:52 AM
Feb 2017

and he's slick as snot on a doorknob and ten times as nasty.

He's the type of self loathing gay man that extremist conservatism thrives on, he'll be a fully formed Roy Cohn some day, if we let him live and unless instead of conversion "therapy," he lucks into a head shrinker who will help him accept his gayness instead of being disgusted by it.

He's not nearly as glib as Coulter is, so he'll have a harder time being the darling of the far right, but he's at least as hateful, taking delight in making other people feel as uncomfortable as he does with himself.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
10. Spot on. As usual :)
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 05:12 AM
Feb 2017

I've never seen more than a few seconds of him before tonight.

Totally not impressed. And totally not worth all the hoopla.

Maher can be a dick. But he may have been right in this instance.

Now Jack Kingston.....

 

bathroommonkey76

(3,827 posts)
3. Most people haven't seen him.
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 04:52 AM
Feb 2017

Milo's known for trolling people on the Internet-- Remember the Leslie Jones attacks he started last year?

Twitter Permanently Suspends Conservative Writer Milo Yiannopoulos

https://www.buzzfeed.com/charliewarzel/twitter-just-permanently-suspended-conservative-writer-milo?utm_term=.duvx97poz#.up0POjoaB

He's lower than a deplorable.

Grown2Hate

(2,013 posts)
8. Right? I was expecting to see this VICIOUS, Alt-Right, hateful,
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 05:07 AM
Feb 2017

bloviating, piece of shit MONSTER spouting vitriol, unabashed... and it was just a little boy, acting up to get attention.

Larry Wilmore gave him the spanking he so desperately sought. But seriously, Wilmore... one of the HIGHLIGHTS of my NIGHT.

Lotusflower70

(3,077 posts)
5. Pretty pathetic
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 05:00 AM
Feb 2017

He is a weak little man boy emanating insecurity and self-loathing. Not impressed. I don't see the big deal. Major overreaction. He got schooled, now he can take his ball and go home.

njhoneybadger

(3,910 posts)
6. I think he's putting the fake on.
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 05:05 AM
Feb 2017

Next thing he'll go through conversion therapy and become straight. The poster boy of the religious right. See we told ya.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
22. So do I. He's just so over-the-top ridiculous.
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 02:50 PM
Feb 2017

It's either poorly conceived performance art, or he's just another desperate attention whore out for YouTube clicks and reality TV stardom. My money's on the latter.

arthritisR_US

(7,288 posts)
9. I don't think you're crazy. Like a child lacking affection
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 05:08 AM
Feb 2017

any attention is rewarding even if it's negative.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
16. Like the 5 year old who says "f*ck" gets him attention. Even if it's negative attention.
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 10:44 AM
Feb 2017

But this buffoon makes money off doing it.

There are 4chan losers trolling the internet with more sincerity.

arthritisR_US

(7,288 posts)
18. Very true. His lack of sincerity and his need
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 01:26 PM
Feb 2017

for attention really stood out. No wonder he worships at the tangerine shitgibbon's feet.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
12. That's milo...
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 07:29 AM
Feb 2017

...more of an Ann Coulter wannabe...but yes, the same vibe: attention whore with no reservations about employing hateful, bigoted rhetoric to entertain his fans and bolster his ego.

Milo's claim to infamy is that he's a gay man spouting this crap... which I am sorry to say. He should know better. He's had his 15. Time to move on.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
15. Hence the best response is to deprive them of the negative emotional reaction they crave-
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 10:42 AM
Feb 2017

I compare him to the Westboro Baptist Church because his grifting method is closer to theirs.

If he's going to show up somewheres to speak, don't get angry. Just stick a donation booth outside the venue for the ACLU.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
17. And Maher has given him the gift of VISBILITY and elevated him!
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 10:44 AM
Feb 2017

Milo's being on Real Time is quite the "feather-in-his-cap" that can really HELP his career of spewing hate and intolerance and bigotry and ENCOURAGING and MOTIVATING others to do the same.

Thanks a fucking lot Bill Maher! You've just RAISED his stature! You've LEGITIMIZED him!

We'll only see more of that little SHIT now that you've helped him by giving him a NATIONAL PLATFORM!

I knew this would happen. Milo now has yet another line-item to add to his CV and his IMDB page thanks to Bill Maher.

And did I hear Bill correctly? Did he say that it "sounds reasonable" that transgendered women shouldn't be permitted to use the ladies' room because they're "confused" or that they put other women and girls at risk? (I'll have to see if I can find the transcript, I'm not inclined to go searching the entire youtube video to double check and get an exact quote.)

Maher is as obsolete as Ed Schultz and Cenk Uygur ... time to put him out to pasture.

Grown2Hate

(2,013 posts)
20. My first inclination is to agree with you in spirit, but honestly, I was almost excited to watch
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 02:32 PM
Feb 2017

in a weird way because I wanted to see what this monster was all about.

But after finally seeing him, I walked away thinking, "Oh, really? THIS is what everyone's on about? He's a pathetic little brat and now I can dismiss him outright." So it kind of had the opposite effect on me, to be honest. It de-fanged him. I don't even think he came out looking like a star for the Alt-Right; he wasn't vitriolic enough for them (or even clever enough for anyone else). I could be wrong...

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
23. He already had a platform. Making his ideas look foolish on TV was better than not.
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 02:57 PM
Feb 2017


It hardly legitimized him. The one thing that gave him street cred was that he was barred from speaking, which is why we should be careful about when we exercise that approach over just making the person look lightweight and silly, even though I understand the inclination. We after all, have the better ideas. We don't need to be afraid of that discussion.

As to Maher and Uygur, I appreciate both of them, and they generate important conversations you can't hear in most of media. I take their good and disagree with them on the bad. Maher is totally stupid when it comes to the issue of Islam, but the reaction should be to take his ideas down, because they are that thin and frankly inconsistent with himself...not shut him out of venues and make it seem like on this issue he's struck some sort of pay-dirt close to the mark that is freaking people out.

As to the bathroom comment, I see what Maher was responding to(a sense of safety for women who may have all kinds of real world concerns and triggers over male apparent presences where they should feel safe) but it was in-artful and accepting this kid's narrative of the facts versus what the realities of these laws are, and of how people would predominantly exercise their rights as human beings in those contexts. I certainly don't give him a full pass on this, and thankfully Larry Wilmore chimed in to challenge that pat acceptance.

But yes, as much as I agree with both Maher and Uygur on a whole swath of issues, there are those on which they are regressive--frankly still un-evolved on-- and should be called out on those, but I'll take them, and Randi Rhodes, and Amy Goodman, over most of the pool.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
19. That and it is a money making gig for him.
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 01:54 PM
Feb 2017

I don't think he believes any of the shit he says. He is a professional liar for the sake of making money.

salin

(48,955 posts)
21. He's worse. It's like Coulter2.0 He targets people and then sics his followers
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 02:41 PM
Feb 2017

on a path of harassment, doxing, threats, etc. Same vibe - but virulent harrassment of targeted individuals follow at his direction. Crazy, Crass, and more than cruel.

logosoco

(3,208 posts)
25. I had not seen him before, either.
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 03:08 PM
Feb 2017

He sure is full of self hate and right wing talking points. Not a good combo!
I was glad Bill had him on. I don't like living in a vacuum. Sometimes you have to smell the shit in order to know what to clean it with.
I guess some people feed off of making others groan. I reacted the same as the audience. Not because it was a "trigger" (and that whole concept is odd to me, like saying people can't react?) and what else would I do? The man was on my TV. I could not say anything directly.
I think the other guests (esp. Larry!) did very well to show how they were intelligent and how stupid and pointless he looked compared to them.
I guess he thinks the money is good, but someday I think all of that hate is going to eat him alive.

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