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bigtree

(85,998 posts)
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 08:39 AM Feb 2017

Oh, Canada!

Last edited Sat Feb 18, 2017, 09:40 AM - Edit history (1)

The Canadian Press ?@CdnPress 16h16 hours ago
Here's Canadian Mounties greeting refugees from Somalia who walked across the border into Canada. THE CANADIAN PRESS photo by Paul Chiasson


twitter.com/CdnPress/status/832691566636576768





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Oh, Canada! (Original Post) bigtree Feb 2017 OP
Truly heartwarming. oasis Feb 2017 #1
I love Canadians, too.. I had nothing but wonderful Cha Feb 2017 #4
I love the Canadians. That photo depicts the anti-ICE brigade. Love not hate. Vinca Feb 2017 #2
The Mounties look happy to see them.. Cha Feb 2017 #3
I weep for what we've become bigtree Feb 2017 #5
That pic made me weep with joy and Cha Feb 2017 #6
some are correctly pointing out that this is actually a gentle arrest bigtree Feb 2017 #7
I wish them the best of luck so they Cha Feb 2017 #8
It seems they will be given a fair shake when their claims are actually investigated. DK504 Feb 2017 #18
probably in part because they are healthy and adequately dressed starshine00 Feb 2017 #28
xxxxoooooxxxxoooo Equinox Moon Feb 2017 #9
It goes without saying that the treatment of refugees in our country is abhorent Victor_c3 Feb 2017 #10
Trump should give the Statue riverbendviewgal Feb 2017 #11
Both sides of my family came from Canada to the US. roamer65 Feb 2017 #13
A cartoon showing just that was posted here a couple of days ago. I can't find that one now, tblue37 Feb 2017 #17
Thanks riverbendviewgal Feb 2017 #22
But I bet they're not Christians like Americans are.. mountain grammy Feb 2017 #12
The way our two countries treat refugees is like night and day. The US wasn't like this.... George II Feb 2017 #14
play on the Anthem bigtree Feb 2017 #19
No apologies needed, I just pointed out my own long-term error. This one still gives me chills: George II Feb 2017 #20
As a US Citizen can I seek asylum in Canada? Blue Idaho Feb 2017 #15
I don't know, I think asylum can be requested and granted to people only from countries... George II Feb 2017 #21
I'm sure you are right... Blue Idaho Feb 2017 #23
Look at how happy and kind that Mountie looks to be rescuing that child from ICE. nt tblue37 Feb 2017 #16
» bigtree Feb 2017 #24
Same story, more details....makes you want to cry. George II Feb 2017 #25
I Love Canada! Been there many times over the years! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2017 #26
The verb "greeting" gets in my eye. Orsino Feb 2017 #27
» bigtree Feb 2017 #29

Cha

(297,323 posts)
4. I love Canadians, too.. I had nothing but wonderful
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 08:51 AM
Feb 2017

times when I visited Canada when I lived in upper state New York.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
3. The Mounties look happy to see them..
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 08:49 AM
Feb 2017
Losing Hope in U.S., Migrants Make Icy Crossing to Canada

WINNIPEG, Manitoba — Almost three months after Bashir Yussuf watched Donald J. Trump win the presidential election, he made his way to Noyes, Minn., where he set off at night into the snow-filled woods and crawled across the unmarked border into Canada.

“I saw what was coming,” said Mr. Yussuf, 28, who fled his home in Somalia in 2013 to make a circuitous, five-month voyage to San Diego, where he applied for asylum but was rejected. “I knew Trump was going to deport me.”

After a three-hour walk, much of it through deep drifts, Mr. Yussuf arrived in Emerson, a small farming town in sight of the snow-swept border with both North Dakota and Minnesota.

Emerson’s 700 inhabitants have long known “border hoppers,” often offering them lifts to the nearby Canadian Border Services Agency office. But they have never seen them coming in these numbers.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/11/world/canada/trump-migrants-canada.html?_r=0

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
5. I weep for what we've become
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 08:52 AM
Feb 2017

...what we represent to the world.

Grateful that Canada's displaying our lost, stolen values. Hope they come around and allow refugees to apply for asylum at the border crossings.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
6. That pic made me weep with joy and
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 09:02 AM
Feb 2017

also sadness knowing we are the opposite of what they are now. "Stolen" is right.

I have Canadian envy I've always loved Canada.. love the people! From Victoria Island to Newfoundland

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
7. some are correctly pointing out that this is actually a gentle arrest
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 09:32 AM
Feb 2017

...and that asylum is not guaranteed.




Still, it's a stark contrast with the seemingly unforgiving ICE here in the U.S.. There's a kindness demonstrated there which isn't apparent in ANY official attitude or response toward refugees or migrants in our own country. We've lost the genius of our inclusive democracy, in the blink of an eye.

Canada is now a small, however fragile or flawed, reflection of what our nation's influence once was.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
8. I wish them the best of luck so they
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 09:37 AM
Feb 2017

won't be deported back to Somalia. Such a long journey they've had

Thank you for the additional tweets, bigtree

DK504

(3,847 posts)
18. It seems they will be given a fair shake when their claims are actually investigated.
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 12:04 PM
Feb 2017

This country, right now, would not give them the same treatment. So happy they were able to escape US.

 

starshine00

(531 posts)
28. probably in part because they are healthy and adequately dressed
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 05:11 PM
Feb 2017

after a story like this was posted last night googled and read story after story about refugees crossing without having any idea what kind of weather they were up against. Two Ghanians lost nineteen fingers between them, one of them was fortunate enough to keep their thumb. They just are not prepared at all for this kind of weather and temperatures and the Ghanians said they had never even heard of frostbite and didn't know what it was. It is so devastating to read about. I am so glad to see this family extremely bundled up but even so for little kids it is dangerous regardless of all the layers.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
10. It goes without saying that the treatment of refugees in our country is abhorent
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 10:19 AM
Feb 2017

I'm especially angered by the way our nation treats refugees of nations fleeing the turmoil we created. Iraqis and Afghanis should absolutely have priority with othes nations like Syria not far behind.

riverbendviewgal

(4,253 posts)
11. Trump should give the Statue
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 10:41 AM
Feb 2017

Of Liberty to Canada. We are doing what is enscripted on her base.

I am a proud Canadian. I am proud of my fellow citizens.

It is such a horror watching the once greatest country plummet downwards to hate. All the world is watching and thinking this, except Putin.

riverbendviewgal

(4,253 posts)
22. Thanks
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 12:48 PM
Feb 2017

I liked enough to share on FB and on my gmail.
I missed when it was on DU the first time.

This is my Canada. Not everyone is nice as we have those who like O'Leary who fancies himself as mini Trump.

mountain grammy

(26,624 posts)
12. But I bet they're not Christians like Americans are..
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 10:57 AM
Feb 2017

so there! American Christians elected our new policy..

George II

(67,782 posts)
14. The way our two countries treat refugees is like night and day. The US wasn't like this....
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 11:34 AM
Feb 2017

...even as recently as 15-20 years ago. How things have changed.

Incidentally, I used to make this mistake, the National Anthem is "O Canada" (no "h&quot

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
19. play on the Anthem
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 12:04 PM
Feb 2017

...with a touching 'oh' to reflect the warm sentiment of the scene in the photo.

Apologies to Robert Stanley Weir.

George II

(67,782 posts)
20. No apologies needed, I just pointed out my own long-term error. This one still gives me chills:
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 12:12 PM
Feb 2017

....from maybe 40 years ago (drifting slightly off topic, sorry):

George II

(67,782 posts)
21. I don't know, I think asylum can be requested and granted to people only from countries...
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 12:19 PM
Feb 2017

...where there are dictatorial governments, civil wars, etc., but I'm not an expert.

You can emigrate to Canada from the US if you satisfy certain conditions (work, relatives, whatever)

If I was a lot younger I'd be considering a move to Canada, but luckily I'm a dual-citizen (Canadian mother and relatives)

George II

(67,782 posts)
25. Same story, more details....makes you want to cry.
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 03:53 PM
Feb 2017
http://fusion.net/story/387655/canada-processes-trump-crackdown-refugees/

Canadian authorities respond to asylum-seekers fleeing Trump’s immigrant crackdown by helping to carry luggage and babies

(more than the customary four paragraphs, but I wanted to get the gist of the story in here)

There is perhaps no more discernible of a dichotomy between how Canada and the United States under Donald Trump are treating the most vulnerable members of society.

Bundled in winter clothing with children and luggage in tow, terrified refugees and undocumented immigrant families are fleeing the U.S. over its northeastern border into Canada to seek asylum from Trump’s anti-immigrant policies. As they cross—some even running to escape U.S. officials—Canadian authorities are responding by helping them across a snowy border ditch, grabbing their luggage, and even carrying their small children.

This may seem like a trivial gesture given that Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) immediately arrest the asylum-seekers once they are in Canadian territory. In actuality, the respect and humility shown by Canadian authorities to these Trump refugees stands in contrast to the actions of U.S. immigration authorities as of late, and it affirms Canada’s commitment to respecting human rights.

The most recent incident occurred Friday, as nine asylum-seekers—five adults and four children—thought to be from Sudan made a mad dash across the border in Champlain, New York.

According to Reuters:

One by one they scrambled across the snowy gully separating the two countries. RCMP officers watching from the other side helped them up, lifting the younger children and asking a woman, who leaned on her fellow passenger as she walked, if she needed medical care.

According to NPR, Quebec province has seen the highest number of people seeking asylum in the past month since Trump took office, at a heavily trafficked route in Champlain, NY. “They’ll be walking—you’ll see whole families, like two adults and like three children most of the time,” local resident Matthew Turner told NPR.

Here’s how NPR described one recent crossing this week:

One officer speaks out, saying, ‘You have to go through the, the custom, the border—but if you do cross here, you’ll be arrested and then we’ll take you in charge, OK?’

The woman nods and steps toward them. The Canadian policeman offers to carry her baby as she makes her way through the slippery snow path. She hands the child to him and then takes the hand of another officer who helps her to the road on the Canadian side.
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