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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,035 posts)
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 03:43 PM Feb 2017

DeVos: Critics want to make my life a living hell

In her first full week as U.S. education secretary, Betsy DeVos wasted no time in getting to work to try to explain her vision for education and the U.S. Education Department — and to go after her critics, saying they want to make her life “a living hell.” She also said she has identified people in the department who want her to fail, but vowed not to let them.

Her nomination by President Trump sparked an unprecedented backlash, and she was confirmed on Feb. 7 in the Senate only after Vice President Pence cast the first-ever vote to break a tie for a Cabinet nominee. Her backers see her as a champion of school choice and alternatives to traditional public schools, while opponents say her decades of advocacy work show that she wants to privatize the public education system.

She was met with protests at the first D.C. public school she visited as education secretary, and the San Diego Board of Education decided not to vote on a resolution to invite her to visit the city’s public schools.

In a speech and several interviews, DeVos made clear that she is planning to push the expansion of school choice — charter schools, voucher programs and other alternatives to traditional public schools.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2017/02/17/devos-critics-want-to-make-my-life-a-living-hell/?utm_term=.13e04868d9f6&wpisrc=nl_rainbow&wpmm=1

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DeVos: Critics want to make my life a living hell (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2017 OP
Do your job or get out of the way C_U_L8R Feb 2017 #1
GOOD Skittles Feb 2017 #2
+1000 nt iluvtennis Feb 2017 #62
SCAMway made life a living hell for many of its distrutors. muntrv Feb 2017 #3
Yes they do! flygal Feb 2017 #4
Oh, come on. It's only worse than Scientology. jmowreader Feb 2017 #71
Worked as a lifeguard at a hotel where Amway had a huge function. Was very scary. It is a cult. kerry-is-my-prez Feb 2017 #95
what a bunch of whiney fuckers.... spanone Feb 2017 #5
I never did give anybody hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell. - Harry S Truman Brother Buzz Feb 2017 #6
85 percent of American children go to public schools BeyondGeography Feb 2017 #7
so true starshine00 Feb 2017 #11
Right on! Alice11111 Feb 2017 #63
I hope she is in a "living hell"... wcmagumba Feb 2017 #8
Make it really, really hell and maybe she'll quit. Auntie Bush Feb 2017 #57
Welcome to Clintonville and Obamaburg, Betsy JHB Feb 2017 #9
!!! Alice11111 Feb 2017 #64
They're just return the favor ! Jimbo101 Feb 2017 #10
Let's continue to make her life a living hell. Freedomofspeech Feb 2017 #12
So,So,True!! coco22 Feb 2017 #31
Poor Cruella DeVos wants to retreat to her lake home (pic) wordpix Feb 2017 #40
I know, right? Dustlawyer Feb 2017 #73
Agreed. Keep up the protests until she leaves us (and our children) the hell alone. Tatiana Feb 2017 #94
I've never understood why a coddled billionaire would subject themselves to this n2doc Feb 2017 #13
Couldn't understand it other. She's either trying to make herself richer or is a religious fanatic kerry-is-my-prez Feb 2017 #96
It's got to be religion. hunter Feb 2017 #98
I hope they succeed. Her life needs to be miserable the whole time she is in this position. nt tblue37 Feb 2017 #14
Another rich whiner who wants the title but doesn't want to work. dalton99a Feb 2017 #15
I resemble that remark. neeksgeek Feb 2017 #16
WELCOME TO PUBLIC SERVICE - and the life of many teachers dealing with parents! Blue_Adept Feb 2017 #17
THANKS!,You rock! iamateacher Feb 2017 #80
They all seem to spend an inordinate amount of time compiling enemies' lists. suffragette Feb 2017 #18
She's just there to launder capital gains anyway. Some hell. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2017 #19
Oh, poor baby...Call your brother and have him send in MineralMan Feb 2017 #20
Well Betsy, a lot of parents don't want their kids to be as uneducated as you are. I have a 12 appleannie1943 Feb 2017 #21
Well, it's the AMericanWay underpants Feb 2017 #22
Well the GOP has made most teacher's lives hell! Chasstev365 Feb 2017 #23
Your church is Calvinist! Full of Predestinationalists! longship Feb 2017 #24
I hope that pampered, wealthy white woman regrets what she got herself into meadowlark5 Feb 2017 #25
YES we do!!!!!!!!!!! katmondoo Feb 2017 #26
Oh, she's getting an education! dchill Feb 2017 #27
¡Pobrecita! MedusaX Feb 2017 #28
whining msdogi Feb 2017 #29
Does ***** hire/nominate/associate with anyone who does not have mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2017 #30
hey she is smarter MFM008 Feb 2017 #32
Yes, finally she says something intelligent. winstars Feb 2017 #33
Resign and get out jeanmarc Feb 2017 #34
I hope she suffers a mental breakdown bravenak Feb 2017 #35
Honestly I think they all are to one degree or another. Afromania Feb 2017 #39
Now nobody wants a job there besides Chris Christie bravenak Feb 2017 #45
Yea, too bad he's getting punked like Mitt did. Afromania Feb 2017 #46
It is actually kinda hilarious how much he bullies Christie bravenak Feb 2017 #47
Boo hoo you precious little snowflake. Maru Kitteh Feb 2017 #36
She wanted the job Afromania Feb 2017 #37
Awww poor billionaire snowflake baby ....we all feel soooo bad for you. TrekLuver Feb 2017 #38
She really should have just asked for a nice Ambassador assignment where she could host lavish Pachamama Feb 2017 #49
You're damn right we do... Adrahil Feb 2017 #41
Here's wishing them well. GeorgeGist Feb 2017 #42
Works for me. nt eppur_se_muova Feb 2017 #43
Can't you evil libtards leave her alone to destroy education in peace & quiet? Bucky Feb 2017 #44
Response to title: Yeah, that'll work. nt LAS14 Feb 2017 #48
Take your BS somewhere else, Betsy, we are going to fight you tooth and nail. secondwind Feb 2017 #50
Your life is a living hell because you're doing a job you don't understand. forgotmylogin Feb 2017 #51
Cruella DeVos, to the tune of Cruella DeVil meow2u3 Feb 2017 #52
K & R 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2017 #53
Here's the deal Betsy. You have been asked to lead an agency that you have vilified as the enemy LuckyLib Feb 2017 #54
Not Really yellowwoodII Feb 2017 #55
This is true. She certainly deserves a living hell for trying to destroy American public schools. NNadir Feb 2017 #56
Go fuck yourself, Cruella. roamer65 Feb 2017 #58
Oh I see.. you are meant with a great deal of resistance by parents and teachers Thekaspervote Feb 2017 #59
As an educator of 25 years Eclectic Scribe Feb 2017 #60
Well, maybe not all journalists DFW Feb 2017 #61
Then quit, Betsy. murielm99 Feb 2017 #65
Did you notice the "moles" comment? iamateacher Feb 2017 #66
Oh you poor poor billionaire Soxfan58 Feb 2017 #67
Thank you! I'm on it. Alice11111 Feb 2017 #68
If having a great job is living hell.... LakeArenal Feb 2017 #69
Resign. sinkingfeeling Feb 2017 #70
Whine, Baby, Whine! bucolic_frolic Feb 2017 #72
America's children are more important than a wealthy Amway peddler. Vinca Feb 2017 #74
Just giving it back - you want to make parents' and students lives' living hell. George II Feb 2017 #75
Why, yes we do! DeminPennswoods Feb 2017 #76
Boo effing hoo bluescribbler Feb 2017 #77
Well, Betsy. There is this old saying. GoCubsGo Feb 2017 #78
You took a job for which you have no qualifications TNNurse Feb 2017 #79
Then take your unqualified Calvinist spoiled ass back to one of your fucking mansions Elwood P Dowd Feb 2017 #81
Yep! That's why a happens when you take a job you are not qualified for Phoenix61 Feb 2017 #82
Wow. Compare her and Hillary, what she's gone through Alice11111 Feb 2017 #99
Thats the job when you enter politics. You asked for it! Kablooie Feb 2017 #83
She's already in a "living Hell"... First Speaker Feb 2017 #84
Well then she better resign now. ThoughtCriminal Feb 2017 #85
Turn around is fair play eleny Feb 2017 #86
Shut Up Whining. Cha Feb 2017 #87
I can't speak for anyone else... Blue Idaho Feb 2017 #88
Poor thing. She'd better get used to it! herding cats Feb 2017 #89
Poor baby. Why don't you resign TexasBushwhacker Feb 2017 #90
That's the thing about working with children Kber Feb 2017 #91
Fuckin' A right. Iggo Feb 2017 #93
No, we want to make our children's lives better through better education. Iggo Feb 2017 #92
No, Betsy, we don't. Really. However, Retrograde Feb 2017 #97
Suck it up, buttercup. n/t demmiblue Feb 2017 #100
Amateur. C_U_L8R Feb 2017 #101
Don't worry honey, the rest of us want to make your life a living hell too. Doreen Feb 2017 #102
Yeah! She finally said something factual. elehhhhna Feb 2017 #103

kerry-is-my-prez

(8,133 posts)
95. Worked as a lifeguard at a hotel where Amway had a huge function. Was very scary. It is a cult.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 01:23 PM
Feb 2017

They were chanting and cheering around the pool and were whipped into a frenzy. I'll never forget it. The people I spoke to were acting like they were brainwashed.

spanone

(135,844 posts)
5. what a bunch of whiney fuckers....
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 03:48 PM
Feb 2017

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heat / kitchen

this is what happens when you put billionaires in jobs that require actual skills.

like trump, she has no idea what she is getting into.

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
7. 85 percent of American children go to public schools
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 03:49 PM
Feb 2017

She bought her way into this job so she could undermine them. Her life deserves to be a living hell.

 

starshine00

(531 posts)
11. so true
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 03:52 PM
Feb 2017

I want more info regarding this 'hell' though, I can't imagine what a born billionaire considers a 'living hell'...please do tell, Betty

wcmagumba

(2,886 posts)
8. I hope she is in a "living hell"...
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 03:49 PM
Feb 2017

I'm sure she has caused similar for others and has plans to institute said "hell" for all students and educators.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
9. Welcome to Clintonville and Obamaburg, Betsy
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 03:52 PM
Feb 2017

You want to play in this league, play by the rules your own team set.

Freedomofspeech

(4,226 posts)
12. Let's continue to make her life a living hell.
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 03:54 PM
Feb 2017

Why don't these rich Bastards just stay home and enjoy their billions? Why don't they leave us alone and stop making our lives a living hell?

coco22

(1,258 posts)
31. So,So,True!!
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 04:31 PM
Feb 2017

How much is enough. Greedy bastards want more and more and more. Every time they get in power they go straight to everything to make the middle class and poor struggles even more difficult.

I think they read the cards wrong when the fuck ups start to reveal themselves Trump voters will finally start to see the light,I hope.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
73. I know, right?
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 06:29 PM
Feb 2017

Couldn't she content herself with being a philanthropist?

Oh wait, she would have to donate money to charity, not Republican Think Tanks and Congresscritters!

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
94. Agreed. Keep up the protests until she leaves us (and our children) the hell alone.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 01:20 PM
Feb 2017

These billionaires have no shame. They think their billions entitle them to rule over the plebeians. They have no concept of civics or rule of law or even the idea of consent of the governed.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
13. I've never understood why a coddled billionaire would subject themselves to this
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 03:54 PM
Feb 2017

I guess I can understand Trump, he loves the attention. But DeVos, who undoubtedly has never had anybody yell in her face, seems like someone who won't last long. I hope so.

kerry-is-my-prez

(8,133 posts)
96. Couldn't understand it other. She's either trying to make herself richer or is a religious fanatic
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 01:28 PM
Feb 2017

who thinks she's doing "Gods Work," by spreading her form of religion around.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
20. Oh, poor baby...Call your brother and have him send in
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 03:59 PM
Feb 2017

some Blackwater goons. They'll soon rid your department of those nasty, nasty people.

She can push, but others will certainly push back. On her own, she can do nothing. She had better start making nice and listening to all those people. They can, and will thwart her plans.

appleannie1943

(1,303 posts)
21. Well Betsy, a lot of parents don't want their kids to be as uneducated as you are. I have a 12
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 04:05 PM
Feb 2017

year old grandson that laughed at your stupidity and lack of knowledge during your hearing.

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
23. Well the GOP has made most teacher's lives hell!
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 04:11 PM
Feb 2017

No money, no supplies, standardized tests designed to make students, thus teachers fail, and destroy teacher unions.

Cry me a river, Betsy!

longship

(40,416 posts)
24. Your church is Calvinist! Full of Predestinationalists!
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 04:13 PM
Feb 2017

In other words, no number of good deeds will save your miserable soul from an eternity in Hell fire. You are predestined at birth.

Rot in Hell, you ignorant harpy!

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
25. I hope that pampered, wealthy white woman regrets what she got herself into
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 04:15 PM
Feb 2017

She most likely lived her life in her little elite bubble where her church members loved her, the groups and organizations she is part of adored her - now she's thrust into the real world. The real land of opinion and demands and opposition.

Nothing would make me happier to see this "lovely woman" slink back to her palatial Amway compound wounded from the lack of love that she probably naively was expecting from the masses.

MedusaX

(1,129 posts)
28. ¡Pobrecita!
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 04:25 PM
Feb 2017

Just like a little rich girl...
Got all scared when she saw a group of those not white public school heathens...

Welcome to the real world Miss Grizzly DeVos...
Nobody gives a f*ck about your title or who your daddy is... If you want to be well received then at least take the time to educate yourself about the programs you are responsible for managing....and work on your reputation before going someplace you clearly fear & detest....

Or better yet ...
instead of retreating to your ride why not try TALKING to the people who apparently care enough to be present when you arrive......

msdogi

(430 posts)
29. whining
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 04:25 PM
Feb 2017

another whiny little bitch, cannot believe so many of the repugs seem surprised that so very many are opposed to them and their agendas..and we are quickly gaining momentum and broad support.

Afromania

(2,769 posts)
39. Honestly I think they all are to one degree or another.
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 04:50 PM
Feb 2017

his entire cabinet, so far, seems like they are really fragile and, dare I say,"snowflake like".

Afromania

(2,769 posts)
46. Yea, too bad he's getting punked like Mitt did.
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 05:06 PM
Feb 2017

Trump only brought him there to make him eat "meatloaf" and make himself feel better at the expense of Christies busted ego. I mean after getting his face handed to him by most of the American public, the courts, other governments, people working for him, the intelligence community there had to be somebody he could show he was boss.

Ah well, couldn't happen to a nicer blowhard, and I still feel sort of bad for his mean bullying ass.....

Well......

maybe...........

no.......

no I don't, not even a bit. You lay down with dogs, you get fleas.

Afromania

(2,769 posts)
37. She wanted the job
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 04:49 PM
Feb 2017

Did you think people would sit by quietly and let you make a mess? The entire country is not the Republican voter base that's going to let you rip them off as long as you say black, brown and poor is bad.

Most people are smarter than that.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
49. She really should have just asked for a nice Ambassador assignment where she could host lavish
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 05:22 PM
Feb 2017

....parties and feel important. But like the Church lady she is, she has made it her mission to destroy public education and structure it in a way to spread the gospel as she sees it, so this was her chance.

She just didn't realize that she wouldn't have flowers tossed her way and actually have people calling her out for what she is really about.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
41. You're damn right we do...
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 04:55 PM
Feb 2017

... becuase you are going to make the U.S. education system a living hell. Fuck you, you plutocratic wretch!

Bucky

(54,027 posts)
44. Can't you evil libtards leave her alone to destroy education in peace & quiet?
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 05:00 PM
Feb 2017

It's like living in Nazi Germany only instead of Jews & Gypsies, its the politically powerless oppressing theocrats and billionaire lobbyists.

forgotmylogin

(7,530 posts)
51. Your life is a living hell because you're doing a job you don't understand.
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 05:25 PM
Feb 2017

If you're not going to listen to your critics, it will surely seem like hell.

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
52. Cruella DeVos, to the tune of Cruella DeVil
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 05:26 PM
Feb 2017

Cruella Devos, Cruella Devos
If you can't take pushback
Resign and get lost
A whiny little bitch just like her no-good boss
Cruella, Cruella Devos

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
54. Here's the deal Betsy. You have been asked to lead an agency that you have vilified as the enemy
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 05:35 PM
Feb 2017

for years. You have no background in the field of education, no practical experience, and you lack even rudimentary awareness of the laws and requirements developed nationally in this field. In a culture like ours, increasingly anti-intellectual, where teachers are dismissed and the recipients of phenomenal disrespect (because, after all, anyone can be a teacher and everyone has been in a school) we're simply appalled that a know-nothing rookie would be appointed to this position.

Can you imagine a wealthy philanthropist with no background in medicine appointed to head the National Institutes of Health? Or someone without a law background to lead the American Bar Association?

yellowwoodII

(616 posts)
55. Not Really
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 05:35 PM
Feb 2017

I must confess to feeling sorry for her when I watched her being questioned. She really looks like a nice little bridge-playing, church-going lady who believes what she says. She just can't understand why people like us don't share her vision.
I know people like her, and I like them.
I just don't want them running anything, let alone our education system. She certainly doesn't reflect the wishes of most of us.
I can see every cult in the country just looking forward to starting their own schools.

Thekaspervote

(32,778 posts)
59. Oh I see.. you are meant with a great deal of resistance by parents and teachers
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 05:41 PM
Feb 2017

Because you have a lot of ideas that have been tried and failed already?? What every happened to a new leader coming in, openly assessing, actually listening then formulating a plan that works for the everyone.

My question to you devos, why do you want a job where you are obliviously not wanted? You have a ton of money, why not go ruin some rich kids lives and leave our public school system alone!!

DFW

(54,409 posts)
61. Well, maybe not all journalists
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 05:46 PM
Feb 2017

Just the one that report facts.

Uh, Besty? No one stopped you from telling the Donald you didn't want to play, and on one stopped you from testifying pure garbage at your hearings. Stop spewing garbage, stop threatening to do a lousy job, or resign. Otherwise get used to a LOT more of this.

murielm99

(30,745 posts)
65. Then quit, Betsy.
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 05:57 PM
Feb 2017

Write a book, or have it ghost-written, telling how mean everyone was to you. It probably won't sell, but it can fill up the discount bins in the dollar stores.

iamateacher

(1,089 posts)
66. Did you notice the "moles" comment?
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 05:58 PM
Feb 2017

First, who would say that on their first week on the job? What a morale booster! Well, someone whose brother founded Blackwater, I guess.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
78. Well, Betsy. There is this old saying.
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 06:45 PM
Feb 2017

If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. I'm sure you have never stepped foot in a kitchen in your life, just as you have never stepped foot in a public school. Perhaps you should leave the job to someone who can handle it, just like you leave your cooking to your personal chefs.

Elwood P Dowd

(11,443 posts)
81. Then take your unqualified Calvinist spoiled ass back to one of your fucking mansions
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 06:56 PM
Feb 2017

and go back to counting the billions you and your piece of shit husband have stolen with your fucking Amway trash.

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
82. Yep! That's why a happens when you take a job you are not qualified for
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 07:27 PM
Feb 2017

Since you've never really had a job I can see how this could come as a shock to you. Deal with it. Get up to speed or get out. The choice is yours. But, please, please, stop whining like a spoiled brat.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
99. Wow. Compare her and Hillary, what she's gone through
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 04:42 PM
Feb 2017

First time for her with major responsibility, where she couldn't buy her way or order people around. She is so out of her element. She is used to sycophants and "respect " because she is rich. Now. She is getting Mama bears protecting their cubs and teachers who have nothing to lose, as they have been treated badly for so long. Most have moved on to other jobs or plan to, but they still want this woman to be accountable.

How stupid DT was to put someone so divisive in this role, but it was a matter of WINNING and shoving her in the face of his enemies...Dems, teacher unions. educators. This is a position where you have to have someone who can bring people together, build trust and coalitions, not someone who couldn't get confirmed , but for the VP breaking a tie. His ego over country or even common sense. What does he think this upheaval does to teacher and student morale? Oh, he doesn't think or care. He won.

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
84. She's already in a "living Hell"...
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 09:16 PM
Feb 2017

...it's called being Betsy DeVos. Living that life? I couldn't imagine a worse punishment...

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
88. I can't speak for anyone else...
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 01:14 AM
Feb 2017

But I'm perfectly willing to make her life a shithole of unimaginable misery. In fact I'm actually looking forward to it...

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
89. Poor thing. She'd better get used to it!
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 01:28 AM
Feb 2017

It's not going to be the easy ride she thought it was destroying public education.

Teachers and parents are pissed the hell off. She's not going to get the cakewalk she anticipated. Most people hate what she stands for, it's going to get very ugly in the near future for her. Her early days have been gentle compared to once she actually starts implementing her agenda.

Kber

(5,043 posts)
91. That's the thing about working with children
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 01:05 PM
Feb 2017

When you are perceived as attacking or hurting the kids, their parents tend to get upset and go into protection mode.

Iggo

(47,558 posts)
92. No, we want to make our children's lives better through better education.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 01:08 PM
Feb 2017

It ain't about you, you fucking narcissist.

Retrograde

(10,137 posts)
97. No, Betsy, we don't. Really. However,
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 04:07 PM
Feb 2017

we do expect you to do a competent job, to drop all your nonsense about funding charter and private schools on the taxpayers' dimes, to learn about the challenges facing the majority of schoolchildren and their parents today, and to move the American educational system forwards. That means fact-based rather than delusion-based teaching.

When you start - and stay- on that path we'll support you. Until then, you're a public servant and a lot of the public is not happy.

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