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madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 07:23 PM Feb 2017

Trump goes full Mussolini

This man is a dictator. He is using the playbook of every dictator that came before him. Denigrate the institutions of government, the media, and foreigners. And lie to and manipulate supporters who possess the need for authoritarianism.

This is on the republicans. They own him.

History will judge them harshly.

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Trump goes full Mussolini (Original Post) madaboutharry Feb 2017 OP
I seriously wonder how many Americans understand what he's doing? n/t RKP5637 Feb 2017 #1
His base - never HipChick Feb 2017 #3
Some of his base do know. Mariana Feb 2017 #12
Yup workinclasszero Feb 2017 #14
It bothers me that so many here assume they're all stupid. Mariana Feb 2017 #15
Right workinclasszero Feb 2017 #22
Unfortunately, I work with some of those people. Island Blue Feb 2017 #43
Just under half of America is conservative Christain. They WANT this, badly. Crash2Parties Feb 2017 #44
I agree, but a lot of those you mention are ignorant. Alice11111 Feb 2017 #55
Most are the victims of brainwashing, much like a religious cult. GliderGuider Feb 2017 #39
You are so right! workinclasszero Feb 2017 #42
Half of America were told by their religious cult leaders to only vote GOP. Crash2Parties Feb 2017 #45
In a perverse way, it's romantic. Eyeball_Kid Feb 2017 #28
most of them are just in denial... they live in a completely different media universe Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #20
Yes there seems to be two breeds Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2017 #66
well I guess he can't get it up bdamomma Feb 2017 #29
That's one of the side effects of using topical hair restoration products. catbyte Feb 2017 #52
Americans understand...his sycophants don't give a shit...and angstlessk Feb 2017 #4
Yes, just as Frank Luntz said.. cilla4progress Feb 2017 #6
Eh.. I think it was Grover Norquist. Eyeball_Kid Feb 2017 #31
Yeah. But I think Frank Luntz is a copycat. dchill Feb 2017 #40
He's already said that he doesn't read them. Crash2Parties Feb 2017 #46
No one in that crowd does. procon Feb 2017 #7
He's not going to gain any ground...38% low approval and dropping.. HipChick Feb 2017 #13
Federal-level voter suppression not fooled Feb 2017 #64
at least MFM008 Feb 2017 #2
oh yes bdamomma Feb 2017 #32
History is going to eviscerate these bastards...and we aren't done writing it yet...the worst TrekLuver Feb 2017 #5
unfortunately dems never do this sort of good PR. hillary could have a thank you tour ya know. msongs Feb 2017 #8
Democrats believe in good governance, not seeking adulation. nt Blue_true Feb 2017 #24
You are assuming we will write history...there is ZERO guarantee adigal Feb 2017 #9
well sure... but we should fucking resist at every point nonetheless Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #19
Keep RESISTING bdamomma Feb 2017 #34
Hope youare right Va Lefty Feb 2017 #10
Don't forget the part about preening before rallies of fascist supporters. nt tblue37 Feb 2017 #11
NEVER go full Mussolini! charlyvi Feb 2017 #16
Maybe he will end up like Mussolini in end Pachamama Feb 2017 #26
execution by firing squad MyMission Feb 2017 #51
Sorry "Not Good" Oldtimeralso Feb 2017 #53
Maybe Kellyanne can join him charlyvi Feb 2017 #59
My understanding from history lessons was he was shot along w/mistress, then defecated and pissed on Pachamama Feb 2017 #62
Yes, they were shot to death. johnp3907 Feb 2017 #63
So we stand up, we make ourselves known HopeAgain Feb 2017 #17
For a couple of weeks I've been trying to articulate those very points, you've done it perfectly. George II Feb 2017 #18
Compare and contrast... FailureToCommunicate Feb 2017 #21
OK, soooo hold on to this side by side image. We need that on 2020 Blue_true Feb 2017 #25
Hahaha not fooled Feb 2017 #65
it's time oldcynic Feb 2017 #23
++++++++++++ n/t BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2017 #27
That's it zentrum Feb 2017 #48
Amen lamp_shade Feb 2017 #54
i believe that says it all madaboutharry! spanone Feb 2017 #30
Il Dunce. roamer65 Feb 2017 #33
his voters FAIL civics or REALLY hate amerika. pansypoo53219 Feb 2017 #35
the only good thing about any of this is it has fully outed American fascists starshine00 Feb 2017 #36
K&R bdamomma Feb 2017 #37
Trump quotes Mussolini mia Feb 2017 #38
what an arrogant bdamomma Feb 2017 #67
The Simpsons called it in 2005. Homer as Mussolini (Trump) neverforget Feb 2017 #41
And privatize.. zentrum Feb 2017 #47
Yes. Many people should be proud.... Honeycombe8 Feb 2017 #49
Antisemites and White Supremacists are over the moon. SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2017 #50
+1 uponit7771 Feb 2017 #60
So does this mean pressbox69 Feb 2017 #56
Why Now? colsohlibgal Feb 2017 #57
This Isn't Really Anything New DallasNE Feb 2017 #58
The question is will the American voters judge him harshly? Kablooie Feb 2017 #61
They will go down with him for sure. Some might jump ship. SummerSnow Feb 2017 #68
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
14. Yup
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 08:14 PM
Feb 2017

They long for a religious dictatorship in this country.

They want the national guard kicking doors down in the middle of the night.

They want to drop nuclear bombs and missiles in the ME...They want Armageddon...period!

Trump and Bannon are trying to make it happen, have no doubts.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
15. It bothers me that so many here assume they're all stupid.
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 08:29 PM
Feb 2017

Sure lots of people have been fooled, but plenty would just love to see a dictatorship, as long as the dictator does what they want. They forget that dictators tend to eventually get around to oppressing everyone, not just the unpopular people.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
22. Right
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 08:55 PM
Feb 2017

I bet a good 30 to 35, maybe...40% of Americans would welcome a religious dictatorship in this country because they think it would benefit white people who play Christian's on Sunday.

The average German wanted Hitler to have total control too. Didn't work out to well for them.

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
44. Just under half of America is conservative Christain. They WANT this, badly.
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 11:06 PM
Feb 2017

The interesting part will be when the Southern Baptists & satellites realize that the RCC is far wealthier & more powerful in the rest of the world.

I'd say I'll bring popcorn, but if that were to come to pass our family would already be gone one way or the other.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
55. I agree, but a lot of those you mention are ignorant.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 04:11 AM
Feb 2017

Maybe, they are even educated and ignorant.
I can think of a lot of people in my neighboring red states who would love a Christian dictatorship.
Even then, I don’t understand why they want to be so mean and disrespectful to Mexico. Racism?

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
39. Most are the victims of brainwashing, much like a religious cult.
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 09:58 PM
Feb 2017

The brainwashing technique is a form of what is known as "psychic driving". It was invented by Dr. Ewan Cameron for the CIA's MK Ultra project in the 50s and 60s. The vehicle for the messaging is RW talk/hate/religious radio. 24 hours a day for 40 years, with no balancing viewpoints presented, ever.

As a result of that onslaught they live in a different universe to those of us who have escaped re-programming. In their world the rules, logic, and the interpretation of events and facts are divorced from what we perceive as "reality" by their artificially warped mental states.

They are not stupid. They are "Manchurian Voters". It's the only thing I've found that explains their thought processes.

If you can tolerate it, read a few comment threads on Free Republic with this idea in mind. You may be startled to see how well the idea fits.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
42. You are so right!
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 10:35 PM
Feb 2017

All those decades of right wing propaganda have had effects.

The true believers believe what they are told to by hate radio and fox.

And on Sunday it's reinforced by the preacher in their dominunist prosperity gospel, mega church.

America surrendered to the fascists and the corporation's when the fairness doctrine was killed.

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
45. Half of America were told by their religious cult leaders to only vote GOP.
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 11:08 PM
Feb 2017

We got lucky that half of those decided to just stay home.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
28. In a perverse way, it's romantic.
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 09:40 PM
Feb 2017

His Fanboys want some nonspecific Armageddon, as if they know of the deconstructed particulars. What's romantic about it are these visions of a pain-free whitewash of humanity. Those enthusiasts don't understand that they may not get the Armageddon they desire.

If we get to that point when humanity goes extinct, it's more likely to be a long and painfully drawn-out affair with millions and millions of deaths spread out along an uncertain timeline. End of timers don't want to think about that. THEY think it will be antiseptic and anesthetic. It won't. Reality works that way.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
20. most of them are just in denial... they live in a completely different media universe
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 08:53 PM
Feb 2017

where nothing Trump does is ever presented in a negative light in that way

catbyte

(34,403 posts)
52. That's one of the side effects of using topical hair restoration products.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 12:56 AM
Feb 2017

I can just bet that there's one person who is just thrilled with that little side effect...

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
4. Americans understand...his sycophants don't give a shit...and
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 07:29 PM
Feb 2017

the republicans in charge just want him to sign off on their proposals!

cilla4progress

(24,736 posts)
6. Yes, just as Frank Luntz said..
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 07:31 PM
Feb 2017

all they need is someone who can hold a pen.

That's what they've got.

I've gotta believe it's going to catch up with them - in THIS lifetime.

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
46. He's already said that he doesn't read them.
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 11:08 PM
Feb 2017

"I wasn't fully briefed" - regarding an Executive Order he signed.

procon

(15,805 posts)
7. No one in that crowd does.
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 07:36 PM
Feb 2017

And even if the did, they wouldn't care. Trump is the fascist they adore. He is the mad tyrant they picked.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
64. Federal-level voter suppression
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 04:18 PM
Feb 2017

That's what they're planning to implement and what they think will enable them to stay in power.

 

TrekLuver

(2,573 posts)
5. History is going to eviscerate these bastards...and we aren't done writing it yet...the worst
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 07:30 PM
Feb 2017

chapter for Trashbag Trump and his cohorts is yet to be written. He will be at the biggest political --- biggest scandal period to ever happen to America.

msongs

(67,420 posts)
8. unfortunately dems never do this sort of good PR. hillary could have a thank you tour ya know.
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 07:37 PM
Feb 2017

go around the country having smaller events where she thanks us for voting for her and giving her a nearly 3 mil vote lead.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
9. You are assuming we will write history...there is ZERO guarantee
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 07:43 PM
Feb 2017

that we will defeat him and his cabal.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
26. Maybe he will end up like Mussolini in end
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 09:35 PM
Feb 2017

....especially being pissed on...

I'm sure his fantasies of golden showers weren't like that...he skipped that history lesson..

MyMission

(1,850 posts)
51. execution by firing squad
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 12:55 AM
Feb 2017

Thats how they got rid of Mussolini, after they defeated him. Sounds good!

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
62. My understanding from history lessons was he was shot along w/mistress, then defecated and pissed on
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 02:31 PM
Feb 2017

.....then his corpse hung by its feet next to mistress in public square, where for weeks until the bodies stunk so badly after rotting and continued to be spit and pissed on, they were finally removed.

Apologies if I got any of these details incorrect....but I remember that description pretty vividly when told by a teacher in Germany growing up.....

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
17. So we stand up, we make ourselves known
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 08:35 PM
Feb 2017

and we prove that we are not pre-war Italy. I am not going to doubt the outcome for America or its institutions. That would be fear and that is what they thrive on.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
65. Hahaha
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 04:20 PM
Feb 2017

That's great.

Sad, but great. Birds of a feather!

Are there any lampposts near dump tower? (google "Mussolini lamppost&quot

oldcynic

(385 posts)
23. it's time
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 09:03 PM
Feb 2017

Getting rid of the clown doesn't work when the whole circus is corrupt. While we are enjoying ourselves watching colorful antics and being aghast, his party is dismantling our country bit by bit. Do not make the mistake of separating the clown from the congress, cabinet, advisors, appointees and hires.

pansypoo53219

(20,981 posts)
35. his voters FAIL civics or REALLY hate amerika.
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 09:46 PM
Feb 2017

i know one. she hated obama. aoul damage. boot strap people. need to be smacked upside the head. christians my ass. jesus did not tell the poor to get a job.

 

starshine00

(531 posts)
36. the only good thing about any of this is it has fully outed American fascists
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 09:48 PM
Feb 2017

we know the demographic now, the characteristic and size of it.

bdamomma

(63,877 posts)
37. K&R
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 09:51 PM
Feb 2017

his supporters are fixated on him while our government branches are being dismantled. I want Bannon out hell I want all of them out.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
47. And privatize..
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 11:23 PM
Feb 2017

...all the functions of government. That's one of their main aims. Complete corporate government.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
49. Yes. Many people should be proud....
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 11:37 PM
Feb 2017

the ones who see what's going on. I'm proud to count myself among them, and the people on DU and others.

I don't think this is an exaggeration. I've seen the similarities for some time.

So this may be how it started in Germany. How easy it is to get people worked up to do God knows what, out of fear and hatred and love for an authoritarian figure.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
57. Why Now?
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 11:35 AM
Feb 2017

Collective memory is 60-70 years. It has been just over 70 years since the scourge of fascism got mostly stamped out in WWll. But far right Neo Nazism...well those types are like cockroaches, you just cannot totally stamp them out.

Watching a PBS Doc about the Oklahoma City bombing I learned there are about 500 White Nationalist/Neo Nazi groups active right now just in the USA.

It astounds me that otherwise normal people are still OK and even more enthusiastic about what is going on. A big part of the blame goes to Reagan, the long standing Fairness Doctrine was done away with late in his 2nd term.

Right now are best firewall is that the courts, the media, and real patriots in he intelligence community.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
58. This Isn't Really Anything New
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 11:52 AM
Feb 2017

Only the scale has changed. George W. Bush lied our way into a disastrous war and we are still digging our way out of the mess that created.

It is more like what we are seeing is part of the DNA of the Republican Party. They can't help but lie all of the time. Some just seem to have a little bigger mouth with which to shout the lies.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
61. The question is will the American voters judge him harshly?
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 01:25 PM
Feb 2017

Will the history that judges them be our history?
I'm not so sure.

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