A couple honest questions about this ruling

[Duer 157099]

1) If it benefits the insurance industry so much, as it seems it will, why did they spend so much money fighting it? Was it just show?

2) Will this mobilize the right wing in November to such a degree that we need to be worried?

[TeamPooka]

1. The only people this will mobilze...

were not going to vote for the President's re-election anyway.
IMHO

[Duer 157099]

7. But perhaps they were not going to vote anyway?

I really don't know, just wondering

[TeamPooka]

16. Ya don't think the hate they have for the man is enough yet?

I think they have hit peak hate.
This is a demoralizing loss for them.
even with the SCOTUS stacked 5-4 in their favor they lose this one?
They should be thinking "why bother voting" by now....

[elleng]

2. There are requirements the industry doesn't like,

for example 80% premiums must cover actual care.
anti-PrezO simply motivates them; nothing more needed.
IMO.

[nenagh]

13. My question is...re the 80% provision..

Could Pres Obama, or any later Democratic president..use the same method Pres Obama used to allow "dreamers" not to be deported....

Could the same method be used to change that percentage to say 70% or 60% in the future?

[gateley]

3. Hmmmm...

1) Good question. Either way, the Industry won't be hurt, I don't think. It must be cheaper (regardless of premiums) to deny coverage than to allow it for pre-existing, lifetime cap, etc.

2) I think even those who benefit by this (most people in one way or another) who are against Obama will vote for Romney anyway. I don't think this is a game changer except if the Republicans are successful in whipping the public into a lie-based frenzy about it.

[Duer 157099]

8. The right wing is nothing if not good at

whipping the public into lie-based frenzies. That's what worries me.

[gateley]

15. That's what worries me, too. nt

[demwing]

4. This decision will help sway a large group of undecideds

who didn't know what to think about Obamacare. Now that the Supreme court has ruled, and Obama has the sweet smell of a winner, you'll see a solid, lasting bump in his polls.

This will probably put Obama over 50% and keep him there. The election just got decided, again by a SCOTUS vote, but this time the good guys won.

[Duer 157099]

11. I hope you are correct

today feels like victory

[Harmony Blue]

5. To answer your questions:

1. Not a show, because it has major implications down the road for possible universal health care.

2. A repeat of 2010 will not happen because those that were voted into power have done NOTHING since then.

[Duer 157099]

9. Regarding it being a show

I meant, by the health insurance industry, spending to defeat it just so the public would think they didn't like it. Reverse psychology?

[Harmony Blue]

12. Regulation and price controls are in place

in addition they can't deny coverage to pre-existing conditions. No it was not an act or a deliberate rouse. Sometimes accept the truth at face value as the most simplest answer is the most realistic.

[Duer 157099]

14. Sounds good

today we celebrate

[cilla4progress]

6. The lack of a public option is terribly disappointing.

Obama definitely miscalculated that process - he traded the individual mandate (and no public option) to the health insurance industry for their support of the ACA. In the end, as Wendell Potter predicted, they pulled their support anyway (a WSJ article or editorial last week).

I hope (and believe) Obama has wised up over the past 3.5 years and will no longer make deals with the devil!

We've got to have his back!

[Duer 157099]

10. I totally agree

I'm looking at this as a stepping stone, hoping that many others also see it that way and treat it as such