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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 02:13 AM Feb 2017

Gestapo detained famous French historian for 10 hours at Houston Itl Airport .

Why is he famous you ask?
This distinguished historian's specialty is...Vichy France. And the Holocaust.

See here:
You can click on it for many comments if you are on Twitter.






International scholar visiting Texas A&M "mistakenly detained" by customs officials

A visiting scholar to Texas A&M was detained by customs officials in Houston this week while on his way to speak at a symposium in Aggieland, officials said Friday at the conference.
Henry Rousso was flying in from Paris to participate in the Hagler Institute Symposium when he was “mistakenly detained” Wednesday evening upon his arrival, according to Richard Golsan, director of the Melbern G. Glasscock Center for Humanities Research at Texas A&M.
“When he called me with this news two nights ago, he was waiting for customs officials to send him back to Paris as an illegal alien on the first flight out,” said Golsan during his introduction to the session which Rousso was set to participate in.

His work centers on the history and memory of traumatic pasts, France in WWII and the post-war period, his profile on the CNRS website says.
Rousso's current study involves the relationship between history, memory and justice.
http://www.theeagle.com/news/local/international-scholar-visiting-texas-a-m-mistakenly-detained-by-customs/article_b4153a96-fad7-11e6-8c7d-bb567fe94e17.html#.WLHO8UVwHXA.twitter

His "crime" ???
He was born an Egyptian.

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Gestapo detained famous French historian for 10 hours at Houston Itl Airport . (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Feb 2017 OP
No one is gonna want to come here. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2017 #1
Add international and exchange students to the list. I can't imagine parents feeling comfortable suffragette Feb 2017 #6
I told all my international students -- many of them Saudi -- KingCharlemagne Feb 2017 #18
It's a tremendous loss in exchange of ideas and culture toward better understanding. suffragette Feb 2017 #22
And then we wouldn't need a wall. LisaL Feb 2017 #15
And I barely want to be here. n/t moonscape Feb 2017 #20
Tourism down 7% and internet tourism searches down 17%. sarcasmo Feb 2017 #21
K&R for wtf uppityperson Feb 2017 #2
This travel ban is illegal and immoral and wrong and completely unconstitutional. Initech Feb 2017 #3
Border Patrol and INS went full Nazi on people real fast huh? Brown shirts in waiting apparently. TeamPooka Feb 2017 #4
INS no longer exists and Border Patrol agents are not active at ports of entry grantcart Feb 2017 #24
Houston Int'l is Nazi Central. Hulk Feb 2017 #5
We have devolved from the "Shining City on the Hill" to the dregs in the sewer where nobody wants to world wide wally Feb 2017 #7
The idiots love this stuff. I hope nobody comes here, not one person, until Eliot Rosewater Feb 2017 #29
As Rousso notes: "United States is no longer quite the United States." suffragette Feb 2017 #8
This is so embarrassing. How can we possibly apologize to OldHippieChick Feb 2017 #9
Well, for starters, he is on Twitter dixiegrrrrl Feb 2017 #10
What is even worse is that these outrages continue despite the judicial stay tblue37 Feb 2017 #11
I'm still hoping to hear something OldHippieChick Feb 2017 #13
This guy shouldn't have been affected by the travel restrictions to begin with. LisaL Feb 2017 #14
On December 26th, they already detained my German wife, who was traveling with me. DFW Feb 2017 #12
I had a mental flash that all this might be field exercises.... dixiegrrrrl Feb 2017 #23
It's embarrassing for visitors to be confronted with this. lpbk2713 Feb 2017 #16
This particular individual has been to US many times prior. LisaL Feb 2017 #17
When will the Judicial Branch enforce its ruling malaise Feb 2017 #19
Interesting question, kiddo.. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2017 #26
Your post gave me this thought, does trip insurance cover this type of thing and if so, rzemanfl Feb 2017 #28
I really don't know malaise Feb 2017 #31
I didn't mean to assign homework. I will see if I can find anything myself. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2017 #33
I need to find out for myself - homework is good but it's Oscars tonight malaise Feb 2017 #34
I did it for you. The answer is "no" unless you can cancel before you leave- rzemanfl Feb 2017 #35
Thanks malaise Feb 2017 #36
My wife is watching and I saw that when I passed by. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2017 #37
K&R Solly Mack Feb 2017 #25
Kick. dalton99a Feb 2017 #27
BP is the new NYPD. RandySF Feb 2017 #30
No one will want to come here for any reason, not even business. The tourist industry will hit appleannie1943 Feb 2017 #32
KNR Lucinda Feb 2017 #38

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
1. No one is gonna want to come here.
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 02:20 AM
Feb 2017

Art and culture and family emergencies and jobs, will be abandoned in the face of Trump's illegal behavior.
God, we need the courts to get moving on this crap.

Actually, I am rather shaken by these stories.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
6. Add international and exchange students to the list. I can't imagine parents feeling comfortable
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 03:37 AM
Feb 2017

Sending their children, even college age ones, here at this time.

And many who are now here will likely leave.

Who could blame them, in the hate-filled environment Trump has unleashed?



 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
18. I told all my international students -- many of them Saudi --
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 04:41 PM
Feb 2017

to leave before January 20, since there was no way to guarantee their safety or security after that date. It appears my worst fears have yet to pass -- no mass roundups yet -- but we are only 5 weeks in.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
22. It's a tremendous loss in exchange of ideas and culture toward better understanding.
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 04:59 PM
Feb 2017

There is also the insidious federalizing of state police by having them carry out formerly federal immigration duties, especially in regard to deporting Latinos.

And as you note, we are only 5 weeks in.

sarcasmo

(23,968 posts)
21. Tourism down 7% and internet tourism searches down 17%.
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 04:52 PM
Feb 2017


The Trillion dollar tourism business is history.

TeamPooka

(24,229 posts)
4. Border Patrol and INS went full Nazi on people real fast huh? Brown shirts in waiting apparently.
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 02:54 AM
Feb 2017

The enemy is us.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
24. INS no longer exists and Border Patrol agents are not active at ports of entry
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 06:26 PM
Feb 2017

These actions were conducted by Customs Officers. The union representing Customs Officers, the NTEU opposed Trump and endorsed Sec. Clinton.

This is an example of an incompetent administration giving confusing and unconstitutional orders creating confusion to agents at the ports. Blame the chef not the ingredients.

https://www.nteu.org/media-center/news-releases/2016/04/13/nteu-endorses-hillary-clinton-for-presid

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
5. Houston Int'l is Nazi Central.
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 03:17 AM
Feb 2017

Posted numerous times. It is Fox-stupid. Nazi Central is not much of an exaggeration.

world wide wally

(21,744 posts)
7. We have devolved from the "Shining City on the Hill" to the dregs in the sewer where nobody wants to
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 03:54 AM
Feb 2017

go anymore.

Thanks, deplorables

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
8. As Rousso notes: "United States is no longer quite the United States."
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 04:05 PM
Feb 2017

Last edited Sun Feb 26, 2017, 04:59 PM - Edit history (1)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/02/26/u-s-detains-and-nearly-deports-french-jewish-historian/?utm_term=.4e16ec67ff59

Egypt — from which Rousso and his family, as Jews, were exiled in 1956, after a slew of anti-Semitic measures imposed by the administration of President Gamal Abdel Nasser, according to the Israeli newspaper Haaretz — was not among the seven nations in the travel ban, which had been suspended by the time he arrived in the United States.
~~~
Rousso’s scholarship focuses on the memory of the Vichy regime, the darkest chapter in modern French history, when the government of unoccupied France collaborated with Nazi Germany in World War II. Vichy authorities are particularly infamous for assisting the Germans in rounding up and deporting tens of thousands of Jews from France during the Holocaust, which Rousso once called “the past that does not pass.”
~~~
“It is now necessary to deal with the utmost arbitrariness and incompetence on the other side of the Atlantic,” Rousso wrote Sunday in the French edition of the Huffington Post. “What I know, in loving this country forever, is that the United States is no longer quite the United States.”

tblue37

(65,409 posts)
11. What is even worse is that these outrages continue despite the judicial stay
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 04:24 PM
Feb 2017

that supposedly suspended enforcement of the travel restrictions and ban.

I would love to see these jackbooted thugs hauled up on contempt charges.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
14. This guy shouldn't have been affected by the travel restrictions to begin with.
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 04:31 PM
Feb 2017

He is not from any of the banned countries. He is not Muslim.
Yet they were going to refuse to let him in just the same. Somebody had to interfere on his behalf for him to even be let into the country.

DFW

(54,412 posts)
12. On December 26th, they already detained my German wife, who was traveling with me.
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 04:25 PM
Feb 2017

That was a "mistake," too, and although they didn't admit it or apologize, when her case was reviewed an hour later, it took the superior officer less than a minute to see that her detention was total bullshit. She had been detained due to a "fingerprint mismatch," even though she showed them the same fingers she had showed them since they started asking to see them.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
23. I had a mental flash that all this might be field exercises....
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 05:58 PM
Feb 2017

Don't like the implication of that, but it stubbornly stays in my mind, and I tend to have pretty good hunches.
yiick.

lpbk2713

(42,760 posts)
16. It's embarrassing for visitors to be confronted with this.
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 04:37 PM
Feb 2017



To say the very least considering all they have to endure.

Just imagine. Someone travels for hours from another culture and this is the first face
of America they see. The stupid is almost tactile. And that impression lasts forever.

malaise

(269,063 posts)
19. When will the Judicial Branch enforce its ruling
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 04:41 PM
Feb 2017

This is madness - who refunds people their ticket money and hotel money?

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
26. Interesting question, kiddo..
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 07:44 PM
Feb 2017

That was a Federal Judge..9th Circuit, i think....so what happens when someone refuses to obey a court order?
usually the Marshall take them into custody for contempt of court.
but when the President dis-obeys a court order....hmmmm.
Ya know, if any President did that, it would be Trump, esp. with Bannon in his ear. They have been dropping hints of Presidential power, and even this week's sudden "extreme vetting" and deportations is over the line.

I think we are gonna be tested, and hard.

rzemanfl

(29,565 posts)
28. Your post gave me this thought, does trip insurance cover this type of thing and if so,
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 07:48 PM
Feb 2017

will insurers continue to write it?

appleannie1943

(1,303 posts)
32. No one will want to come here for any reason, not even business. The tourist industry will hit
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 08:28 PM
Feb 2017

bottom, along with all the crops that will rot in the fields.

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