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[bravenak]

1. Progressives need to get wins and seats in chairs in our legislature if they want more power

[LovingA2andMI]

2. There is no such thing....

As a "Deputy Chair" in the DNC Bylaws. So what is that title? Likely nothing much at all.

[pkdu]

3. This shit stinks..

"And I found something insincere about Perez immediately nominating Keith to be Deputy Chair. What the hell is Deputy Chair? What are its powers and responsibilities? The feeling I got when Perez did this was that his side was tossing Progressives, not the bone, but the plastic wrapper around the doggy treat. Most likely, it was a tactic to silence Keith and Progressives. At least Keith won't have to resign from his House seat. "

Is Keith so stupid he would accept , hug , shake hands and join presser if this was the case ...ugh.

[Larkspur]

6. I don't think Keith was stupid to accept. He looked cornered.

I watched it live and Keith's face in the beginning looked very somber.

And what is Deputy Chair anyway? What power does it have and what responsibilities does it have?
If it is not in the DNC bylaws, than it was an empty gesture that Keith may have been forced to swallow.

The calls for unity I found lame. They sounded more like calls for conformity.

[Cha]

17. Exactly, pkdu.. their CTs aren't giving Keith any credit..

Link to tweet

Who has way more class and so much smarter.

[pkdu]

19. Thanks for the pic Cha - exactly...see the first reply I got for extended (unintended) shade on KE

Tom even said in the announcement he was saying it was pre-discussed. JeebusHC

[Cha]

20. Their CTs won't be stopped by reality

[seaglass]

32. Yes, they met last week for lunch. I believe that they came to agreement about what

they would do to express unity no matter which of them won. Likely Ellison would have made Perez the same offer.

[regnaD kciN]

4. As a Sanders supporter (go ahead, report me all you want), I would be careful not to equate Perez...

...with some of his backers.

He seems to have built a very nice partnership with Ellison, and they both seem to be promoting the sort of party unity that doesn't stand for "my side won, your side lost, so shut up and fall in line obediently" (which, frankly, has all-too-often been the meaning of that phrase).

While I will continue to watch how this plays out carefully, I think Perez deserves a shot. Besides, this was more than just a Establishment-Progressive proxy war -- if it had been so, why would Chuck Schumer and Harry Reid have been backing Ellison? Let's not turn it into a way to fight a Democratic Party Civil War for the next four years...we may have an actual civil war on our hands before then.

[kevink077]

11. Thank you

Yes Perez deseves a shot. He has always been a solid progressive. I think he will do good and surprise a lot of people.

[Cha]

21. Thank you, regnaD for bringing Reality to the table.

[uponit7771]

40. There's nothing wrong with Perez's backers

[bananas]

5. k&r nt

[ciaobaby]

7. +1

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. Didn't Tom Perez work as a sanitation worker less ceremoniously called a garbage man?

Doesn't sound Establishment to me, nope.

[EffieBlack]

10. He's not the guy Bernie endorsed, so he's establishment and part of the conspiracy to

undermine the "real" Democrats (you know, the ones represented by the guy who refuses to actually join the party).

[uponit7771]

41. +1, this is about it,.. I'm so sick of the whining

[Cha]

15. It's just a buzzword they use when they want to insult.. has nothing

to do with reality.

[EffieBlack]

9. Can we stop with the circular firing squad, please?!

Everything is not a conspiracy by the "establishment" against the "real" Democrats.

Please, just stop with this. It's counterproductive, not to mention childish and petty.

[Chevy]

12. But they do temper tantrums so well. n/t

[radical noodle]

13. X10000

[Cha]

18. All they have are insults.. alwaysl

[Buddyblazon]

35. As you insult people.

[Cha]

36. They're trying to smear our Winner Tom Perez and it ain't working.

[dogman]

14. Corporate dollars.

What other difference was there between them?

[DURHAM D]

16. Did you write this?

Your link and title don't match up with this post.

[NBachers]

22. sounds and visuals of a forehead smack . . .

[Cha]

23. Chuck Schumer endorsed Keith Ellison.. so who are they

trying kid? I don't remember any "establishment" tweet accusations coming after that one.

[Brogrizzly]

24. I don't agree with the smear of the

anti Israel stuff on Ellison, but here's the deal. I really could give a fuck right now if Perez or Ellison is in the DNC chair. Either guy is going to push a democrat in every race, be it a progressive ideolog or a more "establishment" candidate. Right? Still going to be a democract. That's all I care about at this point, resist Trump now, fuck worrying about progressive butt hurt, or establishment central third way'ism. If we get off into the weeds fighting crickets with wooden swords, over this shit, we are going to get eaten by the damn tiger in the grass, not to disparage tigers in any way.

[caroldansen]

25. It all comes down to each person choosing to be a republican or democrat.

Third and fourth parties don't win. So, it all comes down to which side your mind and heart and conscience draws you to. You have compassion and you have love. Somehow most republicans for many years have missed those things.

[Starry Messenger]

26. Perez was the Frances Perkins of our century.

People calling him Wall Street's man are insane.

[Exultant Democracy]

28. Because with him and Ben Ray Lujan leading the party we can win?

I voted for and knocked doors for Bernie and I was in Keith's corner, but this is also a win for our party.

Trump is building a wall of hate and we have to principled progressives with deep roots in the Latino and Hispanic communities leading our party. Even moving that dial from 66% to 82% in those voting blocks wins us about 15 of the swing districts we need on the left coast and mountain west. Add the districts that Clinton won in the rust belt that also voted in Republicans into the house and that's a majority.

[GoneOffShore]

29. Perez deserves support.

The perfect is the enemy of the good.

[Squinch]

30. .

[Renew Deal]

31. Why did he win?

Ellison was far from perfect

[Justice]

33. Perez will be a very good DNC Chair.

Keith and Tom will work together well.

How do you know that Keith would not have done same if he won?

Too bad people don't hear Keith's words about unity. Strange to believe in a guy yet suddenly not.

[Cha]

34. Well said, Justice.. Tom has excellent credentials going

into the job.

All the smearing by a certain faction didn't work.

Keith and Tom are friends.. I can't imagine he was too happy with the smear jobs on his friend.

Link to tweet

[NCTraveler]

37. Love the conspiracy theory at the link.

These JPR types are just foolish. This article is what it would look like if Trump could write something longer than a tweet. It actually does build off his most recent tweets.

[SticksnStones]

39. Aah, I love the smell of jackpine in the morning

[Demsrule86]

38. Trashing this thread... you should delete this divisive thread...

Shame on you.