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Demsrule86

(69,096 posts)
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 09:35 AM Mar 2017

Yesterday my daughter was threatened by a Trump supporter.

She was coming home from school late. She had a meeting...it was hailing here and she blinked her bright lights on and off in order to see better...she is a very cautious driver...the guy some ways in front of her blocked her car at the exit by turning sideways...he approached her car...at first she thought he needed help...but he launched into an unhinged tirade about the lights...and she was terrified. The man is very lucky I was not driving...if some person blocked my car and got out and threatened me.. I would have warned him as I called 911 not to come any closer...if he did, I would run him over...I am so angry. I wanted to call the cops...there is a camera near there, but she doesn't want to...he is dangerous and will hurt someone...she could have been rammed by another driver getting off the highway...the visibility was very poor. He had one one of those make America great stupid caps on his obviously fat head. Ohio is open carry and some of these folks are very dangerous.



Have you ever been threatened or accosted by a Trump supporter?


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Yesterday my daughter was threatened by a Trump supporter. (Original Post) Demsrule86 Mar 2017 OP
They are so scary! get the red out Mar 2017 #1
She is a very sweet child (always my baby) Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #2
No, not yet, but I've seen them walking around and they look deranged, like ready RKP5637 Mar 2017 #3
She came home sobbing... Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #5
I think drivers are getting more aggressive. leftyladyfrommo Mar 2017 #4
It really is...the polite behavior has all but Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #6
Happens To Me Too, Mo ProfessorGAC Mar 2017 #9
The guy should lose his license...that is so dangerous. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #11
I was turning left (at a light) onto a freeway entrance ramp. leftyladyfrommo Mar 2017 #15
Dreadful. As for acting out, does anyone remember Hortensis Mar 2017 #40
It's pretty bizarre hearing these stories. GoneOffShore Mar 2017 #18
Maybe he thought you were on your phone FoxNewsSucks Mar 2017 #58
I am not ever on my phone. leftyladyfrommo Mar 2017 #59
No but I don't go out much these days TNLib Mar 2017 #7
It is scary...you have to be careful. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #8
Nope, only time I was ever confronted over politics was about my Bernie sticker by a fellow democrat Amishman Mar 2017 #10
My other daughter had a Bernie sticker on her car and there were some comments. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #12
Bernie and Hillary stickers HockeyMom Mar 2017 #13
Unbelievable....I can't believe a person would do that. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #14
Not yet. But I suspect it's coming. GoneOffShore Mar 2017 #16
Yes...tough times...I remember when men would stop and Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #20
Did she get the other driver's license plate number or any KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #17
It was too dark and she was too scared. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #19
Yeah, i can imagine. Something that can happen is that KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #21
I am too...he could have more dangerous. He was a bully Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #27
Um, where's the evidence that this was a Trump supporter? brooklynite Mar 2017 #22
He was wearing a make America great hat...she saw it in the street light Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #23
I was wondering too. You'd left off the part about why Hortensis Mar 2017 #37
It there but not in the beginning but I should have put it in the beginning. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #64
Few non-TRump supporters wear "make America great stupid caps". Nt moriah Mar 2017 #24
I did put it in the original post...checked because that is a good question. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #25
Their mere existence is a threat to my and your existence. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2017 #26
Yes,they are bullies and angry...looking for a confrontation... Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #35
I was buying incense at the corner gas station. moriah Mar 2017 #28
Wow, where you scared? Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #34
I'm in a red state. I'm also Pagan. I'm used to dealing with idiots. moriah Mar 2017 #45
Most people I know think flashing your brights to be like honking the horn. Girard442 Mar 2017 #29
That was not it...he was angry that she put her brights on...they were at the exit...he was at Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #31
I have had a Trump supporter trespass and vandalize my property on multiple occasions. NCTraveler Mar 2017 #30
That is true...the guy is a bully and a coward...and very lucky Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #32
I can't believe that someone would do that....a camera might help. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #33
The person who did it was caught on camera and is facing charges for something bigger. NCTraveler Mar 2017 #36
Good that you fought back. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #38
An a-hole like that will slip up eventually. lpbk2713 Mar 2017 #39
Yes... Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #55
Trump supporters only pick on people they perceive to be weaker then themselves. hunter Mar 2017 #41
She is so sweet and naive. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #54
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2017 #42
I would like self driving cars too...especially since I hate driving Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #53
as you say, "he is dangerous and will hurt someone" 0rganism Mar 2017 #43
I know some of the police here... Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #51
Was she a female driving alone? HipChick Mar 2017 #44
That is true... Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #50
Sorry to hear this... HipChick Mar 2017 #52
I've been lucky Jamaal510 Mar 2017 #46
Some of my neighbors are rightwing. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #49
There was some asshole with a Trump sticker on his hummer who parked sideways blocking 2 kerry-is-my-prez Mar 2017 #47
Best not to poke these people as they are ustable. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #48
Driving in Arizona with our California license plates kimbutgar Mar 2017 #56
Yeah we have one of those in our area too...they spew pollution on purpose... Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #63
Voted NO, but LOL Lib Mar 2017 #57
haha Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #62
A Hump supporter told Mr Maru "our kind" wasn't wanted here Maru Kitteh Mar 2017 #60
You know what his brand of hate isn't wanted here....damn. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #61
As I live in a very blue area of CA, no sakabatou Mar 2017 #65
Well as you know, we have more than a few here in Ohio... Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #66
I wonder how they feel about him now sakabatou Mar 2017 #67
He has done nothing for Ohio...we have plants shut down Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #68

get the red out

(13,468 posts)
1. They are so scary!
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 09:37 AM
Mar 2017

I haven't been accosted by any yet, but I know how possible that is now. And yes, they are often armed.

I am sorry this happened to your daughter.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,907 posts)
4. I think drivers are getting more aggressive.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 10:01 AM
Mar 2017

I drive a lot and I have been threatened 3 times just lately. I wasn't doing anything but driving down the road doing the speed limit and staying right.

People thought I wasn't going fast enough. Once I was waiting for traffic to clear before making left. Guy didn't think I turned fast enough. He gunned his engine, laid on the horn and threatened to ram me.

Scary out there.

Demsrule86

(69,096 posts)
6. It really is...the polite behavior has all but
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 10:04 AM
Mar 2017

disappeared. I mean there was some of that during the Obama campaign...I was called names at a gas station by someone who didn't like Obama, but it seems worse.

ProfessorGAC

(66,070 posts)
9. Happens To Me Too, Mo
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 10:08 AM
Mar 2017

I drive a 4 lane divided highway (but not limited access) to and from work. I had a guy flip me off because i was doing 50 in a 55 and when he caught up to me, there was someone else in the left lane, going a little faster than me, but no room for him to get around me. When that car cleared, he got to the left lane, shot ahead of me, flipped me off and ducked into the right lane just when the first car that passed me was trying to merge right. That person had to swing back to the left.

So, he nearly drives into my trunk, passes two cars going 15 or 20 above the speed limit, nearly causes an accident and he flips me off!

Go figure.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,907 posts)
15. I was turning left (at a light) onto a freeway entrance ramp.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 11:54 AM
Mar 2017

I was probably doing 40 on the ramp and headed for the freeway - not very far at all. I looked in the mirror and a truck was right on my backend. When I merged into traffic - in the right hand lane - he whipped around me, honking his horn and then roared off down the highway. I wasn't doing anything wrong.

That same day I was just driving along doing 55 (the speed limit in the downtown area) and in the right hand lane. I had a car go whizzing around me, pulled into the left lane and then back into the right lane. The passenger was hanging out the windows clear up to his waist, flipping me off and yelling.

It is just bizarre stuff. I am being really careful now. I try to stay just as far away from other drivers as I can. I give everyone a whole lot of room.

We had a case here in KC (I think it was here but I may be wrong) where a man got mad because a grandmother took too long at a stop sign. He pulled around and fired into her car killing her toddler grandson.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
40. Dreadful. As for acting out, does anyone remember
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 04:20 PM
Mar 2017

the "let it all out" fad in, I think, the 1980s, where it was supposed to be healthy to express negative emotions rather than keep them bottled up? Turned out that indulging negative emotions INCREASES them. And 45's election is clearly being taken by some as permission for acting out.

I don't drive a lot now, but as an appraiser I did. I drove fast all over Southern California, Accelerate, switch lanes, cut back in, brake, accelerate--usually to fast dance music on the radio. Some honking here and there, but I was monitoring traffic as far as I could see and at least no one could complain I was holding them up. The most memorable interactions were actually with people who were doing the same thing--they'd get on my tail and follow my lead, or I'd do theirs.

That said, when stopping in questionable or downright bad neighborhoods I always left room to the front and side (left lane) to be able to peel out if needed. Being blocked from moving is potentially dangerous. I wasn't afraid, just sensibly proactive.

I am today also--by not displaying liberal stickers in any neighborhood. Only a few of those people are potentially dangerous or would vandalize, but the hazard is real.

GoneOffShore

(17,356 posts)
18. It's pretty bizarre hearing these stories.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 12:04 PM
Mar 2017

We've been in the South of France for the past 8 weeks, driving on secondary roads, toll roads (130KPH - 81mph top speed), Marseille, Aix-en-Provence, etc.
Have had a couple of locals get pretty close but no honks, no flashes, no gestures.
People here, for the most part, keep to the speed limits - mainly because enforcement is electronic via radar cameras, and too many tickets and there goes your license. And random breathalyser stops are very common.

And despite the fact that Provence-Alpes-Cotes d'Azur drivers are statistically the worst in France.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,488 posts)
58. Maybe he thought you were on your phone
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 11:03 PM
Mar 2017

and not paying attention. I've gotten so tired of not making a light because I waited politely for the person in front of me to cautiously go, only to get stuck because they were twitting or updating facebook or whatever people do on their phones at lights.

I'd personally like for traffic to move a lot faster, but I think the laws that need the most enforcing are those requiring people to pay attention to their driving, not the emails and faxes on their phones.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,907 posts)
59. I am not ever on my phone.
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 04:56 AM
Mar 2017

The volume is turned off in the car. But I don't take chances when I drive. I often drive 200 miles a day. I can't afford traffic tickets or wrecks.

TNLib

(1,819 posts)
7. No but I don't go out much these days
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 10:04 AM
Mar 2017

I went to a bar and grill where a bunch of redneck types hang out, the other day. I got some weird glares.
Not sure if it's because I'm browned skinned or if they were just being creepy drunks. Either way I think I'll be avoiding places like that.

Demsrule86

(69,096 posts)
8. It is scary...you have to be careful.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 10:08 AM
Mar 2017

During the election some Hillary supporters with signs had their dogs poisoned...my husband took our sign down...we love our kids and our dogs...that guy is lucky I was not driving ...as a woman alone some guy comes near my car and blocks me ...approaches me...he is going to get run over. My Daddy told my sister and me ...never get out of your car...it is a weapon if you are attacked. We were living in Connecticut and some guy who said he was a cop was pulling woman over and assaulting them.

Amishman

(5,568 posts)
10. Nope, only time I was ever confronted over politics was about my Bernie sticker by a fellow democrat
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 10:09 AM
Mar 2017

And that wasn't threats, more in the line of exasperated lecturing in a parking lot.

(I believe they were a fellow Democrat because they had an Obama sticker on their car)

Demsrule86

(69,096 posts)
12. My other daughter had a Bernie sticker on her car and there were some comments.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 10:13 AM
Mar 2017

Later she added a Hillary sticker. She is gay and has LGBTQ stuff too...I worry about her safety and wish she would remove these stickers. She is also in college. Now she was threated at college coming from a unity meeting by a band of Trump supporters. They shrieked at the kids called them perverted and told them they would burn in hell...some had signs supporting the murder in Orlando...I called the school and have not seen them since.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
13. Bernie and Hillary stickers
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 10:24 AM
Mar 2017

before the election. My daughter and I with 2 little grand kids in car seats were almost run off the road by a woman with load of Trump stickers on her car. She opened her window, shouted obscenities at us, and gave us the finger.

A woman against other women with babies in their car? Just goes to show you are crazy Trumpets are.

Demsrule86

(69,096 posts)
14. Unbelievable....I can't believe a person would do that.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 10:28 AM
Mar 2017

That reminds me...my oldest who was the one threatened yesterday...and I went to the woman's march in DC. I ran into ladies with signs on their cars and pink hats...got two pink hats but had no sign...so I took crayons I bought at the gas station and wrote on my windows in the back. It was fine going down...so many people like a convoy...but coming back, we were almost run off the road twice...there we were in the cold and the drizzle at a gas station scraping off the crayon which is harder than it looks...it was a rental and it took some serious scrubbing.

Demsrule86

(69,096 posts)
20. Yes...tough times...I remember when men would stop and
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 03:29 PM
Mar 2017

help woman in distress...not terrorize her. She could have been killed had some other driver not seen her car...very poor visibility. It was hailing yesterday.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
17. Did she get the other driver's license plate number or any
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 12:02 PM
Mar 2017

identiying information about the vehicle or decription of the driver?

If so, she should file a report IMMEDIATELY (maybe with the State Highway Patrol?) so that this person is in the system in case he lashes out again.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
21. Yeah, i can imagine. Something that can happen is that
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 03:31 PM
Mar 2017

a 'fight or flight' adrenaline rush kicks in, rendering one's ability to respond in a measured form more difficult. Glad she escaped with no physical harm done to her.

Demsrule86

(69,096 posts)
27. I am too...he could have more dangerous. He was a bully
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 03:40 PM
Mar 2017

You see quite a bit of that. My hairdresser is from Jerusalem...she is a Muslim...she is afraid to go to the Mosque...she is wearing a scarf instead of the traditional headdress...so sad for my country.

Demsrule86

(69,096 posts)
23. He was wearing a make America great hat...she saw it in the street light
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 03:36 PM
Mar 2017

which made her even more scared.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
37. I was wondering too. You'd left off the part about why
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 04:00 PM
Mar 2017

he was supposed to be a trumpster. To be fair, I don't think serious anger control issues are ideologically correlated.

I'm like you--I absolutely would call the police now. When I was young I usually did not, just like your daughter. Wondering if someone's been having a very bad day is no longer in the forefront. "There, there, thug. Tell me all about it."

Demsrule86

(69,096 posts)
35. Yes,they are bullies and angry...looking for a confrontation...
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 03:56 PM
Mar 2017

chance to use their guns...when all you have is a hammer everything is a nail right?

moriah

(8,312 posts)
28. I was buying incense at the corner gas station.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 03:43 PM
Mar 2017

I was in line to check out with my Nag Champa when this guy started in on me about obviously being a "pothead" (I haven't smoked in a long time now so no smell, was just in jeans and a shirt from my trip to Atlantic Beach, NC, and a plain jacket). I completely ignored his comments, which angered him more. After several more comments I ignored, including "What, you think you're too good to speak to someone talking to you?" he said Trump was going to "finally do something about you liberal hippie potheads".

At that point the clerk asked him to put away his soda, leave the store, and come back when he was ready to not harass other customers.

Demsrule86

(69,096 posts)
34. Wow, where you scared?
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 03:55 PM
Mar 2017

I suppose do something means murder as in the Philippines...Trump has said admiring things about mass executions of those accused of being drug users.

moriah

(8,312 posts)
45. I'm in a red state. I'm also Pagan. I'm used to dealing with idiots.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 05:20 PM
Mar 2017

Since he didn't personally threaten me I wasn't absolutely terrified, just figured he was mouthing off. When I said I was going to hang out until another customer could walk me to my car just to be safe the clerk asked a stocker to do it.

But I may invest in a Taser (not a plain stunner) because my state allows them, if the environment here becomes worse than people simply using any excuse to vent their crazy verbally.

Girard442

(6,129 posts)
29. Most people I know think flashing your brights to be like honking the horn.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 03:46 PM
Mar 2017

Doesn't ever excuse bad behavior, but it's something worth knowing.

Demsrule86

(69,096 posts)
31. That was not it...he was angry that she put her brights on...they were at the exit...he was at
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 03:50 PM
Mar 2017

the bottom...she was at the top. She had trouble seeing...and put the lights on just to get to the exit...hailing and poor visibility. He turned his car sideways so she could not get by him and got out of the car...no excuse for his behavior.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
30. I have had a Trump supporter trespass and vandalize my property on multiple occasions.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 03:49 PM
Mar 2017

Each time the coward did it in the middle of the night.

Demsrule86

(69,096 posts)
32. That is true...the guy is a bully and a coward...and very lucky
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 03:51 PM
Mar 2017

I was not driving...I would have run him over if he blocked me and approached my car.

Demsrule86

(69,096 posts)
33. I can't believe that someone would do that....a camera might help.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 03:53 PM
Mar 2017

The Trump asshats think they can do anything they want...but judge are seeing it differently...a fair number sent to jail recently for various things.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
36. The person who did it was caught on camera and is facing charges for something bigger.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 03:59 PM
Mar 2017

My neighbor had a bunch of those blow up Christmas front yard decorations. Really pretty good size ones. One even had some kind of blower in the middle of it that made the white shavings in it look like snow flurries. The asshole went from my yard to my neighbors and stuck a knife in each of my neighbors blow up ornaments. Flattened them like a tire. lol. My neighbor had hd cameras and caught it all. Not only did my neighbor turn the video over to the police, they uploaded them to the Nextdoor Neighbor App. I started the app for our neighborhood so it was exciting watching it all go down. It was a Trump supporter a couple of blocks over. Hard to mistake his jacked up jeep. Now everyone in the neighborhood knows who it was. Not sure of how the charges worked out in the end.

With me he just stole my Clinton merchandise I had posted in the front yard. He usually just threw them a couple of houses down. Each morning I would just walk down the street, get them, and put them back in my yard.

Demsrule86

(69,096 posts)
38. Good that you fought back.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 04:02 PM
Mar 2017

Those blowups are expensive usually over a $100.00 well over...I buy mine after Christmas and put them on the big porch. My pups would bark there head off if someone comes on the porch...

lpbk2713

(42,843 posts)
39. An a-hole like that will slip up eventually.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 04:18 PM
Mar 2017



And do the wrong thing at the wrong time with the right people present.

It will be a learning experience.

Demsrule86

(69,096 posts)
55. Yes...
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 07:52 PM
Mar 2017

Ohio is open carry...plenty of people have guns...he does this to the wrong person and they shoot him or run him over.

hunter

(38,463 posts)
41. Trump supporters only pick on people they perceive to be weaker then themselves.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 04:46 PM
Mar 2017

It doesn't have anything to do with the person they are picking on. Such encounters with Trump supporters can be considered random shit. It's almost certainly for the best your daughter did not respond in kind.

My battered salvage title mid-eighties car screams "don't fuck with the crazy guy" which I probably shouldn't be proud of, but I haven't experienced any road rage directed at me for a long, long time. I don't get angry at other drivers, even when they do something silly like bumping into me in a parking lot, or something dangerous like an unsafe lane change. But heck yeah, overly aggressive drivers unhinged have sometimes scared me.

Anger and driving are a bad mix. There's a lot of people out on the roads who voted for Trump because they are always angry, an anger which is often fueled by hate radio and television.

Response to Demsrule86 (Original post)

0rganism

(24,078 posts)
43. as you say, "he is dangerous and will hurt someone"
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 05:00 PM
Mar 2017

this needs to be reported to the police. otherwise he gets a free pass to keep on being dangerous, and eventually he will hurt someone. don't let it go that far.

Demsrule86

(69,096 posts)
51. I know some of the police here...
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 07:45 PM
Mar 2017

I might just call them and tell them what happened ...they can pull the camera.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
44. Was she a female driving alone?
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 05:09 PM
Mar 2017

They seem to be targets, if a male was in the car, it would not have happened...

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
52. Sorry to hear this...
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 07:46 PM
Mar 2017

Been through this myself, and very upsetting...

I made the mistake of getting out of my car to go kick his arse, and the coward sped off..

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
46. I've been lucky
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 05:25 PM
Mar 2017

enough to not (knowingly) run into any in RL, and even online I don't get into much contact with them except to refute the trolls.

kerry-is-my-prez

(8,156 posts)
47. There was some asshole with a Trump sticker on his hummer who parked sideways blocking 2
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 06:32 PM
Mar 2017

handicapped parking spots at a CVS. I almost said "it figures that a Trump supporter would be so pushy" but gave them a dirty look instead. I was scared they might whip out a gun since I live in Floriduh.....-

kimbutgar

(21,457 posts)
56. Driving in Arizona with our California license plates
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 07:53 PM
Mar 2017

A huggge truck with chump stickers cut us off and blew this horrible smoke at us. We couldn't see for a moment. Luckily my hubby is an aggressive driver and he sped up and cut off the truck and sped off. I was happy and upset with him at the sAme time.

Demsrule86

(69,096 posts)
63. Yeah we have one of those in our area too...they spew pollution on purpose...
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 12:14 PM
Mar 2017

Hubs and I call the police and say he is creating a driving hazard-you can't see...I know this person got at least one ticket.

Maru Kitteh

(28,369 posts)
60. A Hump supporter told Mr Maru "our kind" wasn't wanted here
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 05:25 AM
Mar 2017

Too bad snowflake, you're just going to have to put up with us.

Demsrule86

(69,096 posts)
66. Well as you know, we have more than a few here in Ohio...
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 03:09 PM
Mar 2017

I would say even though he won by double digits...many who voted for him in my area did so for jobs...not die hard supporters but there are some...right now Lordstown GM is shut down...and things are tough.

Demsrule86

(69,096 posts)
68. He has done nothing for Ohio...we have plants shut down
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 11:50 AM
Mar 2017

all over Northeastern Ohio. My son is laid off. I think there is regret.

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