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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRachel has just connected another dot in the trump/russia alliance. A mysterious
Russian owned plane that seems to have appeared everywhere that trump appeared during the campaign. Mored to come after the break. This is better than a spy movie. The sad thing is it is real! Feel free to correct anything I got wrong until we can get a video.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)The Republican Russian affair has many a peculiar twist
KewlKat
(5,624 posts)that makes it seem very peculiar.
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)kerouac2
(449 posts)Seriously, she has been on fire. Love love love her show.
KewlKat
(5,624 posts)The private jet belongs to:
Owner: Dmitry Rybolovlev Registration: M-KATE Type: Airbus 319-133(CJ)
Year: 2012
Seats: 25
Value: US$ 90 million
Owners company: Ural Kali
More info: www.superyachtfan.com/... Dmitry Rybolovlev is the owner of an Airbus A319 business jet. Rybolovlev is a Russian billionaire. He controlled Uralkali, one of the world's largest producers of potash fertilizers. In 2010 Rybolovlev sold his shares in Uralkali for USD 6.5 billion to Suleiman Kerimov. In December 2011, Rybolovlev acquired two thirds of the French-side football club AS Monaco. Dmitry Evgenevich Rybolovlev is also the owner of a large yacht named Anna, after his daughter.
Volaris
(10,274 posts)And see see if he keeps an account in Cyprus at DeutchBank. I'd bet every dollar he has, that he does.
Because in America the oligarchs tell the Government what to do, but in Mother Russia 'Putin is the Czar, and you are his serf (even If you're one of the oligarchs)'.
Wounded Bear
(58,721 posts)Might have to go back and watch that segment again.
Hekate
(90,829 posts)...from multiple storylines, then weaving them -- into a rope.
Wounded Bear
(58,721 posts)but I ususally love how she does that night after night.
monmouth4
(9,710 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)she's reporting what others are turning up and reporting the analysis of others. We can bet she's not reporting everything she's being told at this point, either, while others seek to verify and fill in blanks and she and her staff develop the story she will relate over time.
Not to put down what she does so remarkably well at all, but we do need to respect the thousands out there working on this. Not just our own journalists and our intelligence agencies, but those in other countries as well? It seems very likely some have put their lives on the line and some will not survive their efforts to provide information to the world. Rachel is one who will make the most of what they do give her.
lillypaddle
(9,581 posts)Hope there is enough rope for a noose.
Ilsa
(61,698 posts)to Trump as well. Including a recent trip to Palm Beach when 45 and Flynn were present.
susanna
(5,231 posts)Glad to see someone in the MSM noticing it.
BadgerMom
(2,771 posts)She was a bit miffed tonight on Twitter when someone else was credited. She recovered quickly. She wants impeachment more than personal recognition, but it is she who deserves the recognition. She has been brilliant.
susanna
(5,231 posts)I understand her frustration, too. She's been working very hard connecting a lot of dots. I hope she gets recognized for the work she has done!
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)NewRedDawn
(790 posts)But glad Rachel brought it mainstream. Keep working Journalists. You are the true defenders of freedom.
JI7
(89,276 posts)something that nobody uses.
Ilsa
(61,698 posts)To cheat his divorcing wife out of the money. Rybolovev.
Hekate
(90,829 posts)I have so much appreciation for Rachel and the people she brings into her orbit.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)mulsh
(2,959 posts)get out there.
She had Mr. Johnston on her show this evening. Mr. Johnston gave the reporting credit to the author of the article he's posted at his site.
This is yet another reason why we're fortunate that Rachael has a show.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)it's not connecting as I type, but I'm pretty sure it has a picture of the plane there, along with flight info
this story, which is still not loading, is going to be the foundation, I hope, of the unavoidable shitstorm that should start raining down on these venal crooks
it's not loading, but you can get to it via DC Report
here's the synopsis
no doubt this is where Rachel is getting most of her info
is she attributing it to them?
https://www.dcreport.org/2017/02/25/another-cabinet-pick-with-secret-ties-to-putin-and-oligarchs/
amy goodman interviews johnston and henry here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028737389
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)These connections raise many new questions about Trumps reliance on the Putin regime, which all 17 U.S. intelligence agencies say interfered in the presidential election on Trumps behalf, but which Trump disputes.
These relationships between nominee Wilbur Ross and the oligarchs involve ownership and management of a European bank with a reputation for laundering Russian money and making bad loans.
The study also compared flight records of Trumps campaign plane and a plane used by one of the oligarchs. During the campaign, the two planes often were at the same airports at the same time.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)load from their DC Report site, as has been mentioned here
wonder if it's overload, as also was suggested
hope so, cause the DC Report site is accessible
flamingdem
(39,328 posts)As was the mansion story, she's not scooping all of this but she's filling it in
Wounded Bear
(58,721 posts)good to see some good journalism for a change.
triron
(22,023 posts)CaptainTruth
(6,602 posts)It was in Palm Beach the weekend Trump & Flynn were there playing golf with Abe, right before Flynn resigned. It arrived in Miami when Trump got to Palm Beach & departed within about 20 minutes of Trump leaving.
Volaris
(10,274 posts)Lithos
(26,404 posts)If you can get the tail number, you might be able to track it yourself:
http://getawaytips.azcentral.com/track-private-plane-flight-4444.html
Note: sometimes the ultra rich can pay extra to get themselves pulled off of the actual tracking part, though they can't hide some details.
mchill
(1,018 posts)A guest on Joy AM said a Russian was visiting Mar-a-lago that weekend, but Joy shut her off saying "that story has not been corroborated."
mrs_p
(3,014 posts)All over this for months.
Check out her twitter feed.
Leghorn21
(13,526 posts)day long, but every time I go there I have to "load older tweets" about 6 times to catch up!!
I first found her 3 weeks ago via a Malcolm Nance tweet, and omg omg - this wild woman's going on and on and ON about this "MKATE" and the Ryboloyev (SP!) guy, and others were tweeting that the press corps was holed up in a blacked-out room in the mansion, clueless that DFT and Flynn and Rybolobelv (SP!) and Abe were out there golfing and - well, I've never been quite the same after that night!
She was getting tweeted tonight about Rachel's MKATE, which she was recording for later, and she tweeted the following...so, whoever "AceInCharlotte" is, Louise would like HER to get props for her work on MKATE!:
Louise Mensch
@LouiseMensch
that's not fair, @Maddow - @AceInCharlotte should be on your show. If it's MKATE she and she alone found it
twitter.com/Inspired_Grace
6:56 PM - 3 Mar 2017
mrs_p
(3,014 posts)For this to be her evening hobby.
I have a feeling she and I would be in disagreement about many things, but I started following her after the election when she was one of the only (citizen) journalists keeping the Russian Trump reports going. Scott Dworken and Adam Khan are the others who have been putting the pieces together.
Leghorn21
(13,526 posts)two and a husband - and, I would assume, a home and a dog and laundry etc?? Hmmm, maybe she's got "help"? But that's good, gives her all this time to set twitterville on FIRE!
Yes, Scott Dworkin and Adam Khan! - and Malcolm Nance, who really jump started my adventures in tweetland - I'm SO grateful these citizen sleuths are working like crazy people to get this nightmare behind us - !!
mrs_p
(3,014 posts)What's your theory? BTW, yes, I agree she is a little too prolific for having a day job, family, and a "real" life for this to be her side gig. You thinking she is the front for a collective or do you think she is possibly a distraction or do you think something other?
Damn this president and his cronies. I've become suspicious that everyone is part of a grand spy ring.
Leghorn21
(13,526 posts)dictates to a "collective"? Unknown!!
I just saw gabi's post below - good info - I know she was an MP, is conservative, works for Murdoch?? How - what - BUT also gets published in The Guardian occasionally. Oh, also read last week that she was a consultant or advisor for HRC's campaign as well!? - so, her various gigs in life have put her in a position to have many countless "contacts" all around the world, non?
She has said many times that she loves this country with all her heart and is more than willing to set aside conservative/liberal, right/left stances if it means she can help restore a righteous, robust democracy within the United States of America.
And mrs_p, I believe her.
Also (this just in!) - as of tonight she is loving her some "professor" twitter-sleuth fella I've not heard of before (oh, great, another friggin bookmark!!?):
(((ProfessingProf)))
@ Professing_Prof
Somewhere Near You
Teach law. Support #TheResistance. We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid" Ben Franklin
theprofessingprofessor.com
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)I linked the article that says it, anyway
mchill
(1,018 posts)I watched this segment closely and the last connection RM made between Dimitri Rybolovlev and Trump was Rybolovlev ("fertilizer king" flying into the Miami Airport from the South of France on a the Friday before the weekend that Trump entertained the Japanese PM at Mar-a-lago.
Now, I was watching Joy AM that weekend, or the following weekend, discussing that Mar-a-lago weekend (frought with other issues) and a female guest on the show mentioned as an interesting fact, a Russian spending that same weekend at Mar-a-lago. Joy quickly shut her off saying "we haven't corroborated that story." I searched and searched for who that woman was or for the video of that segment to find out that woman's name, but couldn't find a thing.
Did anyone else happen to see that and note anything about it?
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)former writer/member of parliament
tory!
I think I linked this story....I read it the other day
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/17/louise-mensch-trump-russia-ties-media-scoop
In the journalistic race to get to the bottom of one of the most closely guarded secrets in Washington the investigation into the Trump teams contacts with Moscow one of the biggest scoops came from an unexpected source: the British former MP and novelist Louise Mensch.
Mensch has lived in New York since resigning as the Conservative MP for Corby in 2012 so that she could spend more time with her children and her American husband, Peter, the manager of the heavy metal band Metallica.
Now 45, the woman born Louise Bagshawe in London who once dominated the chick-lit bestseller lists in the UK has reinvented herself once more: working as an executive for Rupert Murdochs News Corp by day, and probing Donald Trumps Moscow connections by night.
Deutsche Bank examined Donald Trump's account for Russia links
Read more
On the eve of the November election, Mensch published a sensational story reporting that a special intelligence court in Washington had granted a warrant to allow the FBI to conduct surveillance of US persons in an investigation of possible contacts between Russian banks and the Trump organisation.
metallica!!!!!
and they were making a big deal about FISA warrants today, because it shows that they're onto somebody in the junta.....maybe Flynn
that's the real reason he had to 'resign,' yes?
who's next? after sessions
Tillerson or Ross?
mchill
(1,018 posts)Doesn't she have blond hair? This woman had dark hair. Perhaps I can now find a transcript of the show come to think of it.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)british accent?
joy should have back whoever it was, cause it seems her fears of verification should be assuaged
triron
(22,023 posts)Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)sorry for the fuzzy, but>>>>
the article....10 thousand words.....lots of details about the plane:
https://www.dcreport.org/wilbur-ross-russian-connections/
Mike Nelson
(9,968 posts)...love the way Rachel frequently he's into fertilizer!
Vinca
(50,310 posts)Maybe it's crashed from traffic or something. It's amazing they're tracking tail numbers and following the bad guys around the planet. dcReport.org
KewlKat
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northoftheborder
(7,574 posts)duncang
(1,907 posts)Just wondering if that plane turned up at the same place in Africa while his sons were hunting there during the campaign? Or if it turned up in the same spots some of his surrogates were. It could get interesting if it did seem to follow others in his campaign.