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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAlabama has figured out a way to avoid issuing gay marriage licenses.
They're not going to issue any licenses at all.
Now if this law passes, you have to get a contract and pay to get the contract recorded. You get married in another state, you have to get the marriage recorded in the same way. Double expense. I have no idea how this would affect people moving to this state after marriage, but I'm guessing they would also have to go to the courthouse and record that they are married.
I hope they get sued immediately. This is the most ridiculous thing I've heard of. Nothing but a money making scheme for attorneys and the courts, not to mention a kettle of worms being opened up that will affect everything from insurance laws to child custody issues.
It passed the senate 23-3. Stupid republicans.
http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2016/03/alabama_senate_approves_replac.html
RoadhogRidesAgain
(165 posts)sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)Too many fancy ideas gets you star struck. My dad used to say I was blinded by the big city lights. He was talking about a "city" that practically threw a party when we got a Wal-mart with a grocery store. Blinded. Ridiculous.
brer cat
(24,605 posts)I live in a very red part of GA, but we have a lot of blue and purple around the state. I never hear much about liberal areas of AL although there must be some. From your clear "No" I assume there isn't enough to hold out much hope for change.
This attempt to avoid issuing same-sex licenses is pure bs, and I hope it is challenged and stopped quickly. If not, it may be contagious!
sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)The county Birmingham is in is blue and there is a blue strip about the level of Montgomery to Selma. That is it.
I hope so too. These people don't think about what they're doing to themselves in order to punish others for being different.
brer cat
(24,605 posts)that those astute enough to realize they are hurting themselves consider it worthwhile since the "other" is punished more. Strange values these folks have.
haele
(12,676 posts)They both say Huntsville and Tuscaloosa are more blue-violet in some areas and purple in most.
My MIL says the problem is that most red county voters like living in a third-world dictatorship - so long as the Rich Folks on the Hill makes sure everyone stays in their place - and leave the white folks and their white clan-centric churches alone.
For the record, my MIL is estranged from her three sisters and her nephews as they all decided they would buy some conjoining hill properties out in the boonies and create their own evangelical church-based community between the nine (now twelve) families - whether or not the sisters actually agreed with the increasing strictures of the religion. While they aren't "Klan" - one of the families includes a mixed marriage, and they've allowed a few select outsiders to settle in the area and join their church - they certainly are "clan".
And the boys have also separated ties with my MIL's two nieces - and while she was alive, their own grandmother - because the aforementioned ladies including my MIL have a bad habit of pointing out logical fallacies and questioning ridiculous statements "of fact". And actually enjoying science.
Haele
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Got to love that republiCON southern mentality.
Solly Mack
(90,785 posts)Damn.
No low is too low. No stupid is too stupid.
Ms. Toad
(34,087 posts)sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)This is also all over my local news this morning.
Ms. Toad
(34,087 posts)I read it around the time it was published.
As of yesterday, there wasn't anything I reported (all articles were dated ~March 2016 or earlier).
Here's an article about what happened yesterday.
http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/story/news/politics/southunionstreet/2017/03/07/senate-approves-bill-ending-marriage-licence-requirements/98880028/
Here's the actual bill.
It's not a big deal, aside from the discriminatory reason they are doing it. It just takes the judges out of the business of marrying people (from licensing through solemnization) by eliminating the advance issuance of a license and solemnization by judges. It doesn't change the essential legal nature of marriage in Alabama. Anyone married elsewhere is still married. .
sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)I went straight to the text of the bill now. It is still going to be an added cost to get an attorney to provide the "affidavits, forms and data" required along with multiple filing fees. I don't think it's a good thing.
http://alisondb.legislature.state.al.us/ALISON/SearchableInstruments/2017RS/PrintFiles/SB20-int.pdf
Ms. Toad
(34,087 posts)The "affidavits, forms and data" you're referencing are to amend a filing that was initially incorrect.
The remainder of the references to fees seem to make them the same as the currently existing fees.
In the grand scheme of things, I'm not going to get excited about marriages being recorded after the fact rather than licensed in advance.
safeinOhio
(32,715 posts)be the same as a divorce? Save all kinds of $ in the long run.
sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)I'm about to be married 23 years myself.
If you look at it like that, the attorneys will be double dipping like crazy.
It will be an added expense on everyone moving here and people will see it as something to keep them from getting married.
safeinOhio
(32,715 posts)Not good a marriage myself. First was 10 years then 22 years single then failed again.