To distract myself from fretting about trump*, I'm watching a show on Charles Manson

[Siwsan]

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. LOL!

A nice, relaxing change from watching news about Trump.... At least Charles Manson can't start World War III or defund Meals on Wheels.

[Siwsan]

3. And at least trump can't appoint him to a cabinet post!!!

Health and Human Services, perhaps??

[bellmartin]

9. What makes you think he can't?

[global1]

10. How About The DOJ After Trump Fires Sessions?....nt

[Siwsan]

13. I think he would make an interesting press secretary

[MFM008]

25. drug czar.......

there it is....
I think Manson has more "character".

[Mendocino]

2. I heard that an icepick

in the eye achieves the same result. YMMV

[guillaumeb]

4. Imagine being confined in a cell with either of them.

Definitely cruel and unusual punishment.

[pinboy3niner]

5. I think you picked the wrong distraction...

[Siwsan]

8. Their techniques to bring in followers are not dissimilar

Find those lacking and fill the voids with lies.

The interviews with the women are very enlightening.

[JenniferJuniper]

29. Manson is acting here; Trump is being himself.

And Charlie don't surf but Trump is the leader of the free world.

Food for thought, mobsters.

[radical noodle]

6. I can actually find some bit of sympathy for Manson

not so for trump.

[58Sunliner]

7. If only they were locked up together.

Turds new reality show, Cell block "C".

[dalton99a]

11. They'd make tremendous cellmates

[58Sunliner]

31. My money is on Charlie.

[chowder66]

12. It's really hard for me to 'hate' but these are the two people on earth I hate.

And I think they are cut from the same cloth. I decided that I hated Manson about 10 months ago.
He's a weasel of a man (no offense to weasels), selfish and deranged... yet able to exude enough weird charm over others.
It creeps me the f*#k out.
That's Trump too.
Now that I think about it I could make it three and add David Miscavige (lol - auto-correct wants to correct it to Miscarriage... how appropriate!). He's the leader of Scientology.

[Siwsan]

14. that is a terrible trio

Listening to the women who were his followers is very interesting.

[chowder66]

15. It is isn't it. I really didn't know much about him but he's always

been around and I learned more after watching Aquarius and decided it was time. Yuk.
What a loathsome man.
I don't think he's nuts either. I believe they each have personas that they hide behind. Some trauma or insufficiency causes them to create one to deflect anything that goes against what they want to hear or need to hear. They end up locked into said persona as a shield of protection.

If that persona drops, they are exposed and deflated to wet puddles under the heels of the world.

[Siwsan]

17. I remember, so clearly, when the murders happened

We had recently been camping in the Los Angeles area, shortly before they happened.

I have read and re-read 'Helter Skelter' so many times.

[chowder66]

19. Wow. I was barely born when they happened

but growing up there was always something in the news or someone talking about it.
Helter Skelter was blaring on the radio all the time and my older brothers told me about Manson when I asked what that meant.

I'm not sure I could get through that book without setting it on fire.

Degrees of separation: I live in Hollywood, down the street from the Scientology Celebrity Center. Up the road from that is Los Feliz and unfortunately, I ran into Trump in an office building years back. I'm giving myself the eebie jeebies! Lol.

[Siwsan]

21. I recognize that area.

My brother lived in Glendale and worked at 20th Century Fox movie studio as a researcher. When ever I came out to visit, which was often, we would tour around the whole town.

He is back here in Michigan, now. I sure do miss my west coast visits!

[chowder66]

26. I bet there was less traffic then. :)

They have built up Hollywood and it's a nightmare driving two blocks let alone more than that.
I think it was my mom's grandparents that lived in Grand Rapids decades ago. She loved Michigan.

I might watch the special on Manson tonight....but then again I would like to sleep so maybe not.

[Mendocino]

20. 1969 was a strange year,

highs like Apollo 11, Easy Rider and Woodstock, lows like Nixon, Altamont, and Chappaquiddick.

[Siwsan]

22. Indeed

It had a major influence on my life, that's for sure.

[pinboy3niner]

30. Same here

I arrived in-country as an Army Infantry 1st Lt. in Spring '69 and the Army sent my little brother in the Fall. (Our concurrent service there was only possible because he volunteered to come and I volunteered to stay.)

It was tough for us, but I wonder if Mom didn't have the worst of it. Having both of us there, then getting the telegrams when I was seriously wounded and then evacuated from Vietnam--and her youngest still had 9 months more to serve there...

[Mendocino]

16. It's been said he dosed the women

heavily with LSD, while he abstained from acid but took large amounts of speed and coke to keep his "endurance" up.

[Siwsan]

18. His education was the prison system.

He's been 'inside' far longer than he was ever free. It is hard to see how he could have turn out much different.

[H2O Man]

23. It's interesting:

the two have never appeared in public together.

[Kimchijeon]

24. Oh, dude... not a good plan there ☹️

Certainly not good for escapism entertainment. I'd recommend Star Trek: TNG or something like that... more optimistic by far.

Far, far removed from the depressing reality of today.

In fact I might go watch some myself, lol

[sarcasmo]

27. We watched Zootopia on Netflix today. A nice hour and a half distraction.

[Juliusseizure]

28. At least Manson never colluded with Russia