To any Trump voter looking in who just found out that Trump has abandoned you

[mtnsnake]

Like her or not, Hillary Clinton would have had your back. She would have been there for YOU today, tomorrow, and the next day. She would not have abandoned you like that lying filthy piece of garbage you voted for. Neither would ANY Democrat. Please wake the fuck up, will you?

[Warpy]

1. Oh, many of them are fully awake now

They will just never admit that to us, preferring to troll "libbies" to try to make themselves feel better for being dupes.

[Littlered9560]

64. That's a fact.

[RKP5637]

2. If this thing in the WH hasn't woken them up, nothing ever will. n/t

[DownriverDem]

17. Absolutely!

I can't believe the left leaners did us in too. They were warned by Bernie, Warren, Obama and HRC. They have been my frustration big time. Why did they do it?

[Eyeball_Kid]

34. I've a good friend who fell for it. She voted for Stein.

I warned her very nicely. I said, don't do it. Don't make the perfect the enemy of the good. Cut your losses and live to win on another day.

She didn't. HRC took the state where she lives, so in one respect, it didn't matter. But the event did show me how the ideal sometimes eclipses the practical, no matter what. My guess is that her focusing on her ideal is similar to Trumpy Fanboys who fail to see the multi-layered lies, and the negative effects, in which Trumpy and his inner circle wallow.

[edhopper]

3. Yes

but she would also help black, brown and gay people. And we can't have that.

[TDale313]

4. Also women.

Bigotry, whether it be sexism, racism, or homophobia, won this November. But it was the battle, not the war, and those of us who believe in equality will continue to fight.

[edhopper]

7. you are right

and women.

[nolabels]

65. Actually they only kept the status quo that was erected in the 1770's

An Amendment for equal representation as to do with electoral college, voting accommodations and other ills that are latched onto our system of government is the only thing that will change it. If and when a very large majority figure it out and then demand it then things will just stay the same.

The electoral college cobbled together to appease the wealthy and landed who often were also slave owners. It insured as long as they had seven of the thirteen in their control they could keep things as they were. The most important thing for the government as far as the wealthy are concerned, even till this very day, is to keep things like they are

[Lotusflower70]

5. True that

But some of them will never wake up. They are in total denial. No one likes being played for a sucker.

[Rural_Progressive]

18. And that is precisely why some of them will wake up.

The repukes have played them for decades but nobody as been as egregious as the orange monstrosity.

[Lotusflower70]

22. We'll see

But for a lot of them, the Trump vote was a fuck you to the establishment.

[NastyRiffraff]

35. Cognitive Dissonance

"Cognitive dissonance: psychological conflict resulting from incongruous beliefs and attitudes held simultaneously"
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cognitive%20dissonance

Those with this syndrome often try, in vain, to justify the conflicting beliefs and attitudes in an effort to reduce the stress they cause.

[Lotusflower70]

68. Agreed

They are grasping at any possible straw to excuse the Asshat-in-chief.

[lindysalsagal]

6. They'll never come in here.

And they'll certainly never post.

[Leith]

14. Yes, They Do

Have you looked at Discussionist? They start several threads a day about what we talk about here.

Our conversations are why this site was attacked on election day - the hackers read this message board and wanted to shut our speech down.

In addition to those, JPR, reddit, conservative cave, and freerepublic report on what is said here.

Their readers sometimes post here, but it doesn't take long to get rid of the trolls. They're really not very bright and are more interested in flinging their own shit than in using what's left of their brains.

[JHan]

27. I think that's so funny and sad at the same time

When I first read that sites comment on this site I lol'd so hard, it's like DU is their precious.

[SledDriver]

28. I see what you did there...

"...more interested in flinging their own shit than in using what's left of their brains."

[Egnever]

8. You seem fairly certain of that

I don't think Hillary would have had your back as much as you think . Certainly more than Cheeto Jesus but the banks were pretty big fans

[elias7]

10. For social programs, EPA, HUD, HHA she sure would have

Economy is tricky because of the power plays, but like Obama, I don't think her intent is anything other than trying the equalize the field.

[TexasBushwhacker]

30. Indeed. I don't know how much she would have achieved

with both houses under GOP control, but she certainly would have vetoed attacks on the ACA, abortion, SNAP funding, etc.

[Egnever]

39. Agreed in some areas she is rock solid

A blanket statement she would have your back is wishful thinking though.

Take the trade deal as just one example of her having your back then not....

Certainly world's better than Cheeto Jesus but the liberal savior hardly.

[fun n serious]

55. I have to disagree.

I think TPP was a step in the right direction. It needed tweeking but truth be told we are a globalized world already. There is no going back. TPP would have fought against China and gave us a seat at the table of a global economy. That is PROGRESS. Nationalism is regressive not progressive

[Cha]

66. Hillary would have been the World's savior. We would have been lucky

to have her.

[DownriverDem]

15. You don't know HRC

See you are why I am so frustrated. You are still buying into the repub hate media machine they used on HRC for decades. You do not know her at all. It makes me sad.

[Egnever]

38. Been watching HRC for decades now

Firm in her positions she is not. And she has always been overly friendly to the monied class.

[Cha]

43. You're right, DownriverDem.. Hillary would have had our backs

There are some who just can't get the insulting buzzwords out of their heads.

It means absolutely nothing.. they act like they know her but they don't if they're going to question Hillary having our backs.

[BlueMTexpat]

60. And they still cannot resist

their little digs - even "disguised."

A pox on them!

Mahalo, Cha! Great to "see" you, as always!

[Cha]

62. Mahalo to you, BlueMTexpat!

Good to see you, too.. have a beautiful day wherever you are.

[Progressive dog]

19. The banks are big fans of a growing economy

since they'd like to get their loans paid back. The US does not control the world economy or the world banks. Little tiny Iceland had some of the worst banks that screwed over thousands of small depositors.

[uponit7771]

20. YOU ARE FUCKIN KIDDING ME RIGHT?!?!?!?! You're fuckin kidding me

[emulatorloo]

24. Well if it was on Putin Today, it must be true, right?

[Egnever]

40. Not in the least

Despite your unhinged histrionics.

[uponit7771]

42. "Hillary is a corporatist" went out with the Russian hacking story, unhinged is repeating it here

[Cha]

47. ..

[JTFrog]

48. Post #8 would be an example of unhinged histrionics.

The same unhinged histrionics that brought us Donald Trump.

If you think a couple of speeches to banks (speeches which when leaked were so fucking weak that all talk about them dried up and disappeared except from some rabid BoBer's, Hillary haters and right wingnuts) were the biggest threat to humanity, then you lose any and all credibility. Especially when accusing others of histrionics.

[Cha]

52. Thanks, JT.. Excellent point..

"The same unhinged histrionics that brought us Donald Trump."

[JTFrog]

57. Good morning, Cha!

[Cha]

59. Good Morning, Frog! Make America

Smart Again! What a worthy goal..

[Cha]

44. Mahalo, uponit.. I feel ya. I think you're quite hinged..

and you spoke for me, too.

[uponit7771]

46. thx, I've seen the HRC rock throwing coming back...some folk can't leave shit alone

[Cha]

50. Be different if they had a clue

what they're talking about.. but, no.

[IronLionZion]

23. I think you know the banks are benefitting much more from Trump

as he rolls back Obama's regulations and defunds monitoring and enforcement work.

In the 2008 election there were lots of DUers constantly claiming that Joe Biden was deep inside the pockets of big banks and credit card companies.

[JI7]

33. they were as much fans of Obama as hers

[phylny]

49. Do you think her cabinet would be filled with men from Goldman-Sachs?

No. She would have had our backs.

[Recursion]

51. Hell, half this board falsely thinks Obama's cabinet was filled with Goldman Sachs people

He only had two appointees with any Wall Street time over 8 years.

[fun n serious]

53. No the banks were not fans.

She would never have given them free reign like Trump is. Not even a close call at all.

[Cha]

67. "big banks".. give me a break. A "buzzword" to drive

those away who don't bother to look further.

[bhusar]

9. I don't feel sorry for them

Maybe I should be compassionate, but he and the GOP have been talking about doing the things they are now trying to make a reality for years. This was not a secret what they were planning on doing.

[BamaRefugee]

11. Trust me, in a few years

there won't be ANYBODY who "voted for Trump", it'll be like Richard Nixon, amazingly NO ONE voted for him either, if you asked people starting around 1980. NOBODY.

[world wide wally]

12. Also,

Fuck you would who voted for the Russan.
Just fucking move to Russia and leave the rest of us alone.

[notdarkyet]

58. We should have a mass round up of russianphiles and

Deport them or put them in private prisons.

[DownriverDem]

13. Democratic Party Platform

You bet Hillary would have had our backs including trump voters. She ran on the Democratic Party Platform which was heavily influenced by Bernie. The biggest con job on left leaning voters was to buy into the repub media hatchet job they did on HRC for decades. This is why I am so sad and frustrated. It didn't have to be.

[LisaL]

16. Well she sure as hell wouldn't be cancelling meals on wheels.

[tblue37]

21. Or trying to help the GOP deprive people of health insurance. Or helping them defund Planned

Parenthood. Or gutting the GPA and the DOJ.

[Cha]

45. No it didn''t.

[bucolic_frolic]

25. They were duped into voting for a front man for Russian Oligarchs

They were too stupid to figure it out

Be civil but don't let them forget it so they remember next time

[KingCharlemagne]

54. We are supposed to be "civil" to a bunch of psychopaths who need to be

involuntarily committed? Fuck that! Those 62 million whack-jobs are my enemy and enemies of the people.

[FailureToCommunicate]

26. A nice gesture of you to hold out hope they'll come round. But about them, I'd say Mark 6:11

Don't bother, turn away, let no dust settle on your shoes trying to talk them out of supporting their racist sexist Russian stooge buffoon. Trump and his minions.

Sorry, but

some folks you just can't reach.

[tavernier]

29. They. Don't. Care.

Trump is The Golden Ticket.
He has a plan, and they will share in his winnings.

Just you wait!!!

Just listen for the FLUSH!!!

[Zambero]

31. Vote for a con artist

And prepare to be conned, BIGLY!!!

[ismnotwasm]

32. K&R

[smirkymonkey]

36. BENGHAZI!

[redstatebluegirl]

37. There is the 20 percent or so who are flat out racists who will follow him to the bowels of hell.

Some of the ones I know here in Oklahoma are really really quiet right now. Some look as stressed as we did after November 8th. One lamented to me the other day that her Mom needs Meals on Wheels and her Medicare and Social Security, she asked "you don't think they will take that too do you". I told her that was their plan and I'm sorry she didn't see the con.

I honestly don't feel sorry for them right now.

[KingCharlemagne]

56. We can and should feel compassion for children, the disabled and infirm seniors. As for their

able-bodied adult family members who voted for Trump, they need to have their faces continually rubbed in it. I'm talking outright humiliation and scorn.

[Alpeduez21]

61. The problem is not Trump

The problem is REPUBLICANS. Everyone talks Trump voters this and Trump voters that. The vast majority of those who voted for Trump also voted for the Republican ticket.

[Cha]

63. The problem is both.. we have big problems