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applegrove

(118,677 posts)
Sat Mar 18, 2017, 07:01 PM Mar 2017

Scientists Brace for a Lost Generation in American Research

ADRIENNE LAFRANCE at the Atlantic

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/03/trump-budget-cuts-science/519825/

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Scientific discovery costs money—quite a lot of it over time—and requires dogged commitment from the people devoted to advancing their fields. Now, the funding uncertainty that has chipped away at the nation’s scientific efforts for more than a decade is poised to get worse.

The budget proposal President Donald Trump released on Thursday calls for major cuts to funding for medical and science research; he wants to slash funding to the National Institutes of Health by $6 billion, which represents about one-fifth of its budget. Given that the NIH says it uses more than 80 percent of its budget on grant money to universities and other research centers, thousands of institutions and many more scientists would suffer from the proposed cuts.


“One of our most valuable natural resources is our science infrastructure and culture of discovery,” said Joy Hirsch, a professor of psychiatry and neurobiology at the Yale School of Medicine. “It takes only one savage blow to halt our dreams of curing diseases such as cancer, dementia, heart failure, developmental disorders, blindness, deafness, addictions—this list goes on and on.”

For decades, scientists have been rattled by the erosion of public funding for their research. In 1965, the federal government financed more than 60 percent of research and development in the United States. “By 2006, the balance had flipped,” wrote Jennifer Washburn a decade ago, in a feature for Discover, “with 65 percent of R&D in this country being funded by private interests.”


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Scientists Brace for a Lost Generation in American Research (Original Post) applegrove Mar 2017 OP
It will be like the burning of the library at Alexandria The Big Ragu Mar 2017 #1
Or the last scene in The Name of the Rose applegrove Mar 2017 #2
We're not going to feel the impacts of this right away... DemocraticSocialist8 Mar 2017 #3
The public and small to medium sized corporations will suffer. Why does Trump and the GOP not want applegrove Mar 2017 #4
They don't want the competition n2doc Mar 2017 #6
In Canada under the Conservative Harper, they got rid of the long form census. Making it harder applegrove Mar 2017 #8
Exactly. n2doc Mar 2017 #5
Lizards applegrove Mar 2017 #7
American science risks moving from "beacon" to "backwater". Kber Mar 2017 #9
3. We're not going to feel the impacts of this right away...
Sat Mar 18, 2017, 07:29 PM
Mar 2017

but give it a generation or two and it'll be very noticeable. Countries that don't maintain their science/tech advantage ALWAYS get over-powered eventually.

applegrove

(118,677 posts)
4. The public and small to medium sized corporations will suffer. Why does Trump and the GOP not want
Sat Mar 18, 2017, 07:33 PM
Mar 2017

medium sized companies to thrive Because that is private equity source of new millions when they get bought out. So the mid sized companies have to be cannibalized to make the rich richer.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
6. They don't want the competition
Sat Mar 18, 2017, 07:41 PM
Mar 2017

Much easier to game the system than to actually compete on a level playing field. It's the only way for stupid and privileged oligarch kids to succeed.

applegrove

(118,677 posts)
8. In Canada under the Conservative Harper, they got rid of the long form census. Making it harder
Sat Mar 18, 2017, 07:50 PM
Mar 2017

for small and medium sized business to get information. No other reason than that they wanted people to have to pay for the information which acts like a gatekeeper.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
5. Exactly.
Sat Mar 18, 2017, 07:40 PM
Mar 2017

If tRump and co. manage to eviscerate federal funding, one of the big casualties will be the current and next generation of tenure-track researchers. At major universities, and even at many smaller ones, one of the primary conditions for gaining tenure, and not being kicked out, is getting a federal grant or 2. If those become impossible to get, you will see a whole generation end up leaving academia. Over time I am sure the tenure qualifications will change, but there is a lot of inertia. And also many universities rely on the overhead from those funds, and will shrink departments like physics and chemistry that don't have a lot of undergrads but generate lots of funding.

Kber

(5,043 posts)
9. American science risks moving from "beacon" to "backwater".
Sat Mar 18, 2017, 09:07 PM
Mar 2017

Trump didn't create this phenomenon, but he did take advantage of it and he will accelerate it if he can.

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