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http://www.msnbc.com/nowComey looks very uncomfortable. It is almost as if he is in the dock.
dchill
(38,556 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)dchill
(38,556 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)lostnfound
(16,192 posts)We're lucky to have him.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)When Rudy Guiliani said that something big was coming out about Hillary before it came out. It was the Podesta emails. How did he (Guiliani) know that?
SticksnStones
(2,108 posts)But yeah the giuliani slips....that too.
dchill
(38,556 posts)Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)Otherwise, he'd be on teevee squawking away.
bdamomma
(63,930 posts)is Rudy there?
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)Tanuki
(14,923 posts)Whatever was "up their sleeve," they were all in on it.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,908 posts)I've missed something. Who is she?
Tanuki
(14,923 posts)especially in friendly venues.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.nydailynews.com/amp/news/politics/trump-daughter-in-law-lara-hints-clinton-related-surpises-article-1.2842932
"Lara Trump, the daughter-in-law of Donald Trump, hinted Monday that the GOP nominee wasn't done fighting dirty quite yet.
"There's still a couple of days left in October," Lara Trump, who is married to Donald Trump's son Eric, said on "Fox and Friends," when asked whether the campaign had any "October surprises" in store for Hillary Clinton.
"So, we'll see, we've got some stuff up our sleeve," she said.
Her thinly veiled comments come just 15 days before Election Day, and with Trump falling increasingly behind in national and swing-state polls.
An ABC News poll released Sunday showed Clinton leading Trump national by 12 points, her largest lead of the season.
Clinton's lead has grown in recent weeks as Trump has suffered unsteady debate performances and as more than 10 women have come forward accusing the mogul of sexual assault or sexual harassment."
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,908 posts)Somehow I managed to remain blissfully unaware of her.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)fishwax
(29,149 posts)Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)My guess is that is why Schiff left that unsaid.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)BadgerMom
(2,771 posts)I think Rudy's highly suspect comments came just before Comey's letter to Congress.
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Made it sound like it was because the investigation was closed? I thought it was because it was reopened.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)dchill
(38,556 posts)Hmm...
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)Without blowing an investigation or breaking the law.
Possible, that's all. But it's why I allow the possibility that he is a white hat re Trump-Russia.
dchill
(38,556 posts)"I want to believe."
cilla4progress
(24,782 posts)Ongoing investigation into Russia's involvement in election, and collusion with trump. But that is all he will say.
Blechh.
Is this admission a big deal or already out there?
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)cilla4progress
(24,782 posts)EVERYTHING is politicized.
H2O Man
(73,630 posts)I think Jim looks like he knows that he is about to do severe damage to the Trump White House.
cilla4progress
(24,782 posts)MM!
H2O Man
(73,630 posts)I can say with 100% confidence that I am.
cilla4progress
(24,782 posts)H2O MAN...
How???
H2O Man
(73,630 posts)just keep in mind what I said.
dchill
(38,556 posts)that you think what you think? I think I can back you up on that. 100%.
H2O Man
(73,630 posts)confirm nor deny those things I do not confirm or deny. This includes denial of confirmation, as well as confirming denials.
dchill
(38,556 posts)confirm and deny that.
Do you think Trump will be on twitter tonight through sunrise?
dchill
(38,556 posts)H2O Man
(73,630 posts)It will be interesting.
H2O Man
(73,630 posts)Guess we were right!
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)cilla4progress
(24,782 posts)are. Of course..
Have these committee members already been briefed on the substance of the testimony?
dalton99a
(81,635 posts)bdamomma
(63,930 posts)of course. Do you see any of them dropping their allegiance to rump?
wordpix
(18,652 posts)Maybe he's carrying Dump water to make this all go away so he won't be targeted.
Looks like fox guarding hen house to me
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)redstateblues
(10,565 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)I am glad Dan Rooney is a Dem.
DeminPennswoods
(15,290 posts)so was Art Rooney, the patriarch, but they were Republicans when Republicans were liberal and cared about working men and women.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)DeminPennswoods
(15,290 posts)Dan Rooney was Obama's ambassador to Ireland and worked for Sec of State Clinton.
As I said, Art, then Dan and his siblings would be the the "Rockerfeller" republican type.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)BainsBane
(53,075 posts)who is pissed off that Flynn's collusion with the Russians because known. He doesn't give a shit that Flynn betrayed America.
He talks about a sacred trust. What about the trust he is instilled with? How about the fucking President?!
dchill
(38,556 posts)of this committee with an (R) after their names.
ismnotwasm
(42,019 posts)I am very confused. How is it that Comey has any credibility at all? I'm not even sure why he still has a job.
However, I'm glad Trump-Russia is being investigated. I hope it leads to arrests.
BainsBane
(53,075 posts)but Trump can't fire him without looking really bad.
MFM008
(19,823 posts)Is very nervous.
Very nervous.
Thrill
(19,178 posts)sunonmars
(8,656 posts)BainsBane
(53,075 posts)sunonmars
(8,656 posts)erinlough
(2,176 posts)Trey Gordy is an ass, I'm fighting the urge to turn this off if I have to listen to this spin.
superpatriotman
(6,253 posts)And changing the discussion again. Pivot. Deflect. Etc.
The leakers. Not the crimes.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,214 posts)I wonder if he'll bring Benghazi into it.
GreatCaesarsGhost
(8,585 posts)Haven't seen him in a while.
dchill
(38,556 posts)Greybnk48
(10,177 posts)Be ready for a barrage of threats and stupidity.
LP2K12
(885 posts)You seriously made me laugh out loud at work. I'm never going to get this image out of my head.
dchill
(38,556 posts)if all the leakers turned out to be Trump staffers.
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)sunonmars
(8,656 posts)Ninga
(8,280 posts)directed toward leakers.
Ninga
(8,280 posts)order a wire tap.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)send him back to the hills of wherever he came from
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)And that Obama could not just authorize one without a rigorous process to get a warrant
Satch59
(1,353 posts)Didn't Trump surrogates endlessly say they didn't care how the Hillary info got out, it was important WHAT came out??
DeminPennswoods
(15,290 posts)are trying to make everything about leaks. They evidently don't care that the US was electronically attacked just as surely as if we had been attacked by conventional weapons.
Lint Head
(15,064 posts)than a cover.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Comey is saying as little as possible.
Ilsa
(61,700 posts)leading me to believe there must be an active investigation.
DeminPennswoods
(15,290 posts)asking plain, pointed questions leading to plain yes or no answers.
lostnfound
(16,192 posts)erinlough
(2,176 posts)lostnfound
(16,192 posts)Maybe the question was slightly different than that?
lostnfound
(16,192 posts)lostnfound
(16,192 posts)Ilsa
(61,700 posts)Atman
(31,464 posts)Apparently trying to make himself look not as stupid. Maybe next he should ask Rick Perry for the name of his fake optometrist.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)at that!) is not dangerous at all nor does it undermine our national security or our status in the world. But yeehaw let's find them leakers!!!
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)cilla4progress
(24,782 posts)He gets nasty and makes shit up.
So obvious!!
Comey doing a good job I think not falling into his suck hole.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)That's obvious.
DeminPennswoods
(15,290 posts)All this information, even if it lacks some specifics, is now public. If there's enough clamor for a special prosecutor, I don't think Sessions will be able to avoid it. I don't even see now they can avoid an independent commission.
Despite the Rs best efforts, no one is going to care about who leaked what.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)dchill
(38,556 posts)Trey-Cray.
coco22
(1,258 posts)Flynn,McConnell,The entire republiCON party?
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Guccifer offering to help Stone. Referred to Guccifer as a creature of the GRU!!
They used a cut out to communicate w Wikileaks
chelsea0011
(10,115 posts)Did I hear that right? Seems an odd thing to not be able to answer.
annabanana
(52,791 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,214 posts)Savvy move.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)The IC, press and anyone not Russia.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)OldHippieChick
(2,434 posts)1. There is an ongoing investigation concerning the Russian interference in the US election; and
2. Obama did not wiretap or order a wiretap or surveil or order any surveillance on Trump.
I don't think there's much more that can be done, despite both sides attempting to chip away at the edges of their respective scenarios.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)remarked, must be heard even so.
I like that man!
OldHippieChick
(2,434 posts)the committee already knows. Obviously Conaway doesn't know very much! LOL!
janx
(24,128 posts)are a bunch of angry, rhetorical questions that Comey cannot answer because of the ongoing investigation.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)dchill
(38,556 posts)Clinton campaign/Russia? Really?
nolabear
(41,992 posts)I hope they keep hammering his and his cohort's ties to Russia and their meddling in the election. It's an opening they can really use and it makes the whole process look as lousy as it is.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)still_one
(92,435 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Hurting her campaign? Trying to muddy the water.
still_one
(92,435 posts)care to find out what really happened
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Sunsky
(1,737 posts)Ilsa
(61,700 posts)Making sure HRC loses, when he wanted trump to win.
oasis
(49,426 posts)a dumb comment out of his ass and is beating it to death.
OldHippieChick
(2,434 posts)I'm rooting against team B does it?" (Comey rolls eyes)
oasis
(49,426 posts)Farmgirl1961
(1,494 posts)For those of us who are unable to watch what is going on, can some of you capture any of the salient points that are going on at the hearing? Thanks!!!
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Catherine Vincent
(34,491 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Referring to Clapper's claim. Basically saying there is an investigation currently going on.
King complaining that the accusations hurt us w Russia. LOL
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Preferred candidate who likes Putin, loves and wants to see more Brexits, and those who they had business connections that could be exploited. Comey conceded on pretty much all points! Nice.
Ilsa
(61,700 posts)Putin's motivation to simply wanting HRC to lose, when they actually highly preferred Trump.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)redwitch
(14,948 posts)Listening rather spottily as I get in and out of the car.
mentalsolstice
(4,462 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,214 posts)Comey has to Glomar at this point, and I'm fine with that for now. Meanwhile, the Republicans want to turn this into an inquisition on leaks.
But the Democrats are steaming forward, giving the American people the evidence they need to know.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Jonny Appleseed
(960 posts)Wtf is wrong with him?
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Jonny Appleseed
(960 posts)coco22
(1,258 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)They're ridiculous trying to prosecute the leaks instead of talking about what they say about Trump and Russia.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Renew Deal
(81,882 posts)Just not publicly.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)coco22
(1,258 posts)Lmao!
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)gopiscrap
(23,765 posts)he fucking committed a felony last fall
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)Didn't register as rep of foreign gov., accepted Russn $$$...
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Rogers describes the use of surrogates to stem blowback against Russia.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Carson talking about 135 billion in losses in gas and oil....
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)sanction lifting would help russia....
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Pee dossier.....
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)hamsterjill
(15,224 posts)Awesome beginning.
Is Russia our adversary?
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)janx
(24,128 posts)of this hearing scheduled?
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Ability to reauthorize programs.....
Bipartisan agreement on getting to the bottom of Russian meddling.....
She's asking about what Russians did.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)this was different from other elections.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)The circumstantial evidence is being reinforced by the official investigaton.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)says we are helping France, Germany.....
lies
(315 posts)That someone asks these guys what exactly the public should believe, because Trump has already reiterated his claims re: wire tappppping.
OldHippieChick
(2,434 posts)pretty clear. The FBI director and NSA director have already answered that question in opposition to Drumpf's claims.
lies
(315 posts)They haven't publicly testified about this before...
What should the public think when the intelligence agencies are being openly contradicted by the President.
Seems like its worth hearing... especially so that reporters can say that back to Trump when he repeats his BS.
OldHippieChick
(2,434 posts)They (Comey/Rogers) have already given their opinion and they do not agree w/ Drumpf. Do you want someone to explicitly ask who the public should trust - them or Drumpf? If so. I think I can safely say they would refuse to answer that question. They have given their opinion based on facts and he has given his based upon rumors from a nutjob. Not sure what more they can say.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)what more do you want? It's confusing b/c Trump says all these experts are wrong? You don't know yet he's a consistent liar?
Get informed
lies
(315 posts)This is the first time - under oath - that the FBI and DOJ have said there's no evidence.
Now if Trump says otherwise he'll also be saying that Comey committed perjury.
And of course, getting Comey to say what Americas should do when the President keeps making unfounded claims, which are debunked under oath, is something that's never happened.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)minimization procedures are supposed to protect private citizens.
Is the IC required to cease collection if the result of the collection nets a 'particular person.'
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)randome
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OliverQ
(3,363 posts)The angle of the camera shows Wenstrup's name tag though.
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wordpix
(18,652 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)Not a good strategy, especially not letting your prejudices show so blatantly.
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neohippie
(1,142 posts)From Adam Kahn he's posting some possible reasons that Comey may have thrown Hillary under the bus with his pre-election comments about Hillary's email investigation
Link to tweet
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)I just discovered Khan about three weeks ago and jumped into the middle of his series of revelations. Somebody needs to collect and write a book on his revelations.
I don't get the reason about Hillary...
neohippie
(1,142 posts)with a grain of salt. There is so much information being thrown around that much may be meaningless, but hopefully some of it means something to someone who may be able to further connect dots to form a narrative that makes more sense I guess
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)That's exactly what Russia wants and the GOP is carrying their water.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)And having a long deep relationship w Putin.
DeminPennswoods
(15,290 posts)They really are. Their lame attempts to divert attention to leaks or Clinto are falling completely flat. Meanwhile Dems are pulling out the facts and tying everything together.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)and what is collusion?
Implicit vs explicit coordination explained
wordpix
(18,652 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)lapfog_1
(29,227 posts)and has no opinion on a lot of things I think he probably does have an opinion on.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)Comey says it depends
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)They're talking about Flynn without naming him.
Now he's st "what if you're paid" .... does he really want to go there w Flynn? Flynn lied about being a foreign agent twice.
janx
(24,128 posts)?
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)He keeps using the meme "cloud" to make it seem like the Russians LIKE the investigation into their collision w Trumps campaign. He keeps trying to get Comey to say they initiated investigation on thin evidence- photographs about trips that were not clandestine. Comey is refusing to agree that hypothetical is valid.
Turner is trying to get Comey say there is nothing there and he will not.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)many Dumpsters had photos taken w/suspect Russian oligarchs and gov. agents
Ilsa
(61,700 posts)or romantic liaisons between the agent and unwitting target.
Made me wonder if they had looked at Melania once upon a time.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)would you rather have a fling w/a handsome Russian oligarch or stick w/fat disgusting hubby?
Nuff said.
Ilsa
(61,700 posts)even though she's not appearing to be sophisticated enough for that. She could have been placed with dt to be used later, such as to cause him emotional problems, or to spy on him in some way.
karadax
(284 posts)Remember we booted 10 spies out back in 2010 for failure to announce themselves.
The goal was to build relationships and gather intelligence.
Blue_Roses
(12,894 posts)Romance? Coopted? Melania?
WTF?
wordpix
(18,652 posts)as a way to get it. He did NOT mention Melania. We're just "having fun" conjecturing.
Blue_Roses
(12,894 posts)Ilsa
(61,700 posts)Employed by GRU to "work" donald. Or, co-opted to report on him. It's a stretch, but given her eastern European background and language skills, it crossed our minds.
randome
(34,845 posts)All he's doing is reinforcing the idea that there is more evidence against the Trump sycophants than has been revealed. He is a stupid man.
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janx
(24,128 posts)between fact and opinion.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)cilla4progress
(24,782 posts)Are clearly on the defense. They are all agitated to one degree or another. Also dry mouth.
Turner seems to me an active alcoholic...
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)The press is waiting to question him. They don't want to hear this stuff
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)And they switched the feed back to the probe.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)nY 's AG who was just fired.
Ilsa
(61,700 posts)Freckle face, forty-ish! Light brown, almost red tones hair?
Glimmer of Hope
(5,823 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)hamsterjill
(15,224 posts)Making me proud!
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)hamsterjill
(15,224 posts)Never been more proud of him! So happy to have voted for him!
wordpix
(18,652 posts)OliverQ
(3,363 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)uponit7771
(90,367 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)What's our Intel Comm. chair up to?
He was on Dump transition team---did he meet w/Russians, let them into Congressional offices to help w/hacking or is he bribed?
Just wonderin'
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)the country?" It's not like Comey is in a war-zone or is working gratis.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)Says Comey's "system" is respected but "his system" is not
Now he's ranting about hearsay: "What I've heard here is quadruple hearsay"
wordpix
(18,652 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)Threat was along the lines of (paraphrased), "You're in charge of Trumprussia and wiretapping, good luck to you and you'd better not fuck up or else."
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)herding cats
(19,568 posts)Gowdy has the same effect on me.
herding cats
(19,568 posts)It was devastating for Trump on more than one front.
nolabear
(41,992 posts)And they're smart enough not to do what I fear I couldn't resist. "Oh please, you smarmy weasel."
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)Kolesar
(31,182 posts)His job is to walk the thinnest of thin lines while defending his boss.