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Mon Mar 27, 2017, 11:24 PM

Yea or Nay: Filibuster the Debt Ceiling?

I've seen a lot of posts about doing so recently, so I thought I'd ask.

FWIW I say "Nay". This is just the type of crap the GOP (read Rand Paul) has been doing throughout the Obama administration. It seems like something we don't want hanging around our necks.

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Reply Yea or Nay: Filibuster the Debt Ceiling? (Original post)
ProudLib72 Mar 2017 OP
briv1016 Mar 2017 #1
underthematrix Mar 2017 #2
ProudLib72 Mar 2017 #3
truebluegreen Mar 2017 #4
ProudLib72 Mar 2017 #8
GumboYaYa Mar 2017 #5
BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #6
Vinca Mar 2017 #7
ProudLib72 Mar 2017 #9
Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #10
NewRedDawn Mar 2017 #11
ProudLib72 Mar 2017 #14
Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #15
Volaris Mar 2017 #12
titaniumsalute Mar 2017 #13
gratuitous Mar 2017 #16
Agschmid Mar 2017 #17

Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Mon Mar 27, 2017, 11:27 PM

1. If it's a clean bill, then let it pass.

If it includes an ACA repeal, tax cuts, funding for the wall etc...

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Response to briv1016 (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 27, 2017, 11:30 PM

2. I agree with you

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Response to briv1016 (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 27, 2017, 11:33 PM

3. Well it has to include "infrastructure" aka The Wall.

But I still say let them hang themselves with it.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #3)

Tue Mar 28, 2017, 06:15 AM

4. No it doesn't.

 

It can be a stand alone bill.

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Response to truebluegreen (Reply #4)

Tue Mar 28, 2017, 01:00 PM

8. True

That was

Meaning the GOP would couch the wall in terms of infrastructure.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Tue Mar 28, 2017, 06:35 AM

5. Make them pass it. They have the majority.

Don't filibuster, but make the Repubs get a majority or else get something for it if we have to save their ass...demand Merrick Garland be confirmed in exchange for our votes.

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Response to GumboYaYa (Reply #5)

Tue Mar 28, 2017, 06:39 AM

6. I.e., let the Hastert Rule apply.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Tue Mar 28, 2017, 06:39 AM

7. It depends on what's in it. If they jam in a defund Planned Parenthood provision, filibuster.

If it's just the normal debt ceiling bill, vote for it. It's more likely the "Freedom" caucus will shut down the government so hang a shutdown around the necks of the GOP.

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Response to Vinca (Reply #7)

Tue Mar 28, 2017, 01:05 PM

9. Senators are leaving the freedom caucus.

I guess they want to be free?

But, yes, it would be better to hang the govt shutdown around their necks than ours. If they can't get things accomplished being in the majority, they look super weak.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Tue Mar 28, 2017, 01:12 PM

10. I say yes...Karma is a bitch.

We need to obstruct and demand something for raising it...after all they don't need our votes they have sizeable majorities...let them screw themselves.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Tue Mar 28, 2017, 01:52 PM

11. Dont hurt people by stopping Social Security checks.

 

That would be terrible PR not to mention hurt a lot of needy people.

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Response to NewRedDawn (Reply #11)

Tue Mar 28, 2017, 02:23 PM

14. That's what I was thinking

If they want to be mean and hurtful, fine. We shouldn't follow their example.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #14)

Tue Mar 28, 2017, 02:35 PM

15. It is now their responsibility...time for them to put up or shut...up

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Tue Mar 28, 2017, 02:12 PM

12. I'd be surprised if it even gets put up for a vote...

Given the fit they all pitched about it when Obama was Pres...

OH WAIT NEVERMIND. It will pass without so much as a whisper of protest now, WONT IT????

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Tue Mar 28, 2017, 02:14 PM

13. NAY. CLean bill passes.

If they want to add pork and weird shit let THEM shut down the Government. That will look great. They own the Executive, House, and Senate and shut down their own gov. That would be delicious.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Tue Mar 28, 2017, 02:38 PM

16. Don't revenue bills have to originate in the House?

And, if that's the case, filibustering a debt ceiling bill in the Senate won't be an issue. Just sit back and taunt the Freedom Caucus folks about increasing the national debt and the deficit, and don't let them see your mischievous smile.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Tue Mar 28, 2017, 02:44 PM

17. Clean bill? If so it should pass.

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