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This post came up in my feed:
"The Russians are still actively pushing out false FB accounts and bots.
Having around 5K FB friends, my feed moves like the Matrix screen. That allows me to see trends. When the Russians are hitting up all the friends of all my friends I get hit a lot due to having so many friends. Being an online marketer by trade, I have created THOUSANDS of fake accounts in my time. So I know what to look for. No one has time to make their fake accounts look real. There just isn't enough time in the day. One or two MAYBE. But even that is a LOT of work
This is what I see trending right now:
I see posts about "Is there REALLY anyone out there that does NOT realize the whole Russia thing is a diversion?" Followed by a long thread of "people" parroting this viewpoint.
I have no way to know how many of the accounts in the thread are bots, real live Russians, or clueless people who are getting sucked up into the fog due to not doing any due diligence to understand what is really going on out there.
I could go through all the accounts in the threads and maybe point out some fake accounts, but who has the time? And what to do about it?
This is more than a little disconcerting.
Just because the election is over they are not letting up.
Most of the American population would rather watch another episode of Jerry Springer than watch the news. That makes them (therefore us) very vulnerable.
I have had many conversation with intelligent people about how do we deal with this new tactic. You cannot force anyone to watch the news or pay attention. No one I have talked to has ANY idea of how to fight this. Including me. But we have to start a dialog of what to do. Russia is just bending us over and having their way with us with no end in sight."
GeorgeGist
(25,323 posts)jpak
(41,759 posts)yup
Siwsan
(26,290 posts)We're all pretty much in agreement that we will no longer respond, but will immediately block the trolls.
JHan
(10,173 posts)it's overwhelming.
Siwsan
(26,290 posts)Just seems like a whole lot of effort for just one day, so I guess tomorrow will tell.
blogslut
(38,016 posts)It didn't solve all the problems but it cut them down to a manageable level.
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sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)Right-wing partisan accounts that just repeat coordinated talking points - where do they get them from?
JHan
(10,173 posts)Especially on Twitter.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)"FakeCheck." As RT put it, "In a post-truth world, its sometimes hard to distinguish between what is real and what is fake news. RTs new special project, FakeCheck, helps you to separate fact from fiction and transit into a post-fake reality."
As a Slate writer put it, "irony dies again."
"You will probably not be shocked, then, to learn that RTs fake-news site so far seems dedicated exclusively to debunking stories that cast either Russia or Trump in a negative light."
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/03/15/russia_today_launches_fake_news_debunker_fakecheck.html
It doesn't get more Orwellian than that, geez
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Well, most of them do know they're using lies for their political power. They're too smart to actually believe them themselves, even if they are true in essence if not fact...
jimlup
(7,968 posts)Sometimes the sound go out in the middle of a particularly interesting political story specifically involving Russians. I don't think it is a coincidence.
phylny
(8,386 posts)episode of "The Daily Show."
blogslut
(38,016 posts)phylny
(8,386 posts)rzemanfl
(29,568 posts)0rganism
(23,970 posts)they will not let up
they cannot let up
it has to continue non-stop to be successful
JHan
(10,173 posts)"Weaponized AI"
pangaia
(24,324 posts)ON FB, 90 percent of my 300 or so 'friends,' are in the classical music world, a number right at the top, the rest spread from high school students to those with very successful careers, ..probably 5% involved in other arts, and the rest....Well, one good friend is a taxi driver in Toronto. :> ))
So, I basically never see any of the things you mention... I do see political opinions expressed, but, again almost from 'our' point of view...
BTW, I'm impressed with your knowledge and experience in this kinda thing....
I had no idea...
JHan
(10,173 posts)That I thought should share - it's a public post. I've seen what the person describes in some groups I'm in....these bots can hit a post at a rapid pace, responding is often futile.
iluvtennis
(19,871 posts)ancianita
(36,133 posts)Meet in person only? Revert to the analog world and leave all digital battles to those who would market some pump-and-dump kinds of 'security' products?
Here's news texted to me from a trusted friend about Wikileaks' Vault 7, Pt. 2 dump yesterday:
Marble is [D]esigned to allow for flexible and easy-to-use obfuscation as string obfuscation algorithms (especially those that are unique) are often used to link malware to a specific developer or development shop.
Over the course of the last 4 months, the deep state has claimed without evidence that Russia has interfered in US elections. With this technology, the CIA could theoretically present the evidence it needs to prove Russian meddling.
According to WikiLeaks, this blame game is possible due to the fact that the source code shows that Marble has test examples not just in English but also in Chinese, Russian, Korean, Arabic and Farsi. This would permit a forensic attribution double game, for example by pretending that the spoken language of the malware creator was not American English, but Chinese, but then showing attempts to conceal the use of Chinese, drawing forensic investigators even more strongly to the wrong conclusion, but there are other possibilities, such as hiding fake error messages.
According to Marble, the CIA could create a virus that would potentially devastate entire systems and then blame it on anyone they want.
As Leak of Nations reports, in the second batch of Vault 7 documents, WikiLeaks released a user guide for Sonic Screwdriver an implant on the Apple Thunderbolt-to-USB converter that allows code to be booted onto an attached device, even if the device is password-protected.
What this means is that the CIA can infect the firmware of Macs at the core of the system with a trojan horse. Having a proverbial ocean of computers to choose from, the CIA could then pick one of those infected computers, launch an attack, use Marble to cover it up and blame it on whomever they wish.
http://www.activistpost.com/2017/03/wikileaks-vault-7-reveals-cia-can-disguise-hacks-malware-russian-chinese.html
Wikipedia gives little comfort about the signal-to-noise in our politics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vault_7
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)There is no deep state. The President commands the entire national security apparatus and can fire people and reorganize departments at will. The Buck stops with the President on all DOD/CIA/NSA actions.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Egnever
(21,506 posts)Not sure why you would think it would stop.
And this is not a new thing psyops is old old old
JHan
(10,173 posts)whenever we spot the trend we should call it out.
pkdu
(3,977 posts)better authentication at creation/sign-up
voteearlyvoteoften
(1,716 posts)mchill
(1,018 posts)It's full of polls about Trump, unflattering pictures of Nancy Pelosi, Hillary etc., with a lot of people responding to the posts in one word answers - yes, or no. It seemed legit in the past (it still appears that a woman from NJ started the group), but I wasn't actually thinking "bot" when I looked at it. I took a gander just now and nearly every post is from someone in Macedonia. Legit Americans seem to be responding, still in their robotic way.
FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)... I consider it a comforting validation.
We are winning every day we fight. We lose when we allow ourselves to despair.